For the sake of argument let’s assume we let Dak walk

[CouchCoach]

Yep

And why our dilemma with our dysfunctional organization and their agendas are so different from other franchises .

It’s difficult to use normal strategy and thinking as you’d want to use when assessing the situation .

Our franchise this era has been so QB dependent it’s difficult to imagine our ownership building a team that’s relative and interesting without one.

Center ring in Booger's Big Top. It's all about the show. I cannot fault him, it's been immensely financially successful and that's what it's all about.

 

[CouchCoach]

But do you trust the same GM to build a decent team without Dak AND find a QB as good or better?

No.

 

[Diehardblues]

I think that would be better than overpaying for Dak. Having Dak with a lousy defense will get us several seasons of between 6 and 10 and 8 and 8. That's not the goal. I would rather rebuild with a focus on putting together a high-end defense.

And you think this is what Jethro is looking to do. Rebuild??

All because he can’t sign this QB for the price he wants?

With the investments we’ve made offensively and the hiring of a proven HC to win now , it just doesn’t add up that we are now looking to rebuild with a new young QB for couple years down the road.

I’m not saying it’s a bad idea, I just can’t imagine Jethro going that direction.

 

[Dre11]

If we pay Dak big, do we have money left over to fill all the other gaps we have? Cap is decreasing this year. Will it increase the following year? The NFL is betting on everyone who stopped watching this past year because of Covid to return. It's my experience that when someone fills their time with something else, it's hard to go back to what you're used to. It'll be interesting to see if the NFL returns to what it was. I don't think it will but we'll see.

Let me ask you his? What makes you think they will field a team without Dak's big contract, they had him on a rookie deal for 4 years and didn't. What makes you think that changes without him? You might as well sure up the qb now and get that out of the way.

 

[Diehardblues]

Center ring in Booger's Big Top. It's all about the show. I cannot fault him, it's been immensely financially successful and that's what it's all about.

Yes sir. And Dak represents the headliner under the Big Top.

 

[Diehardblues]

Let me ask you his? What makes you think they will field a team without Dak's big contract, they had him on a rookie deal for 4 years and didn't. What makes you think that changes without him? You might as well sure up the qb now and get that out of the way.

They fielded a playoff team 2 of those years. One that came about as close as we’ve come to a championship appearance this era . I’d argue Jethro thinks it’s relevant and interesting enough to build on.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dalton completed about 65% of his passes, extrapolating his 9 game numbers to a full season would give him 3,857 yards, 25 tds and 14 ints. And he played most of his games without Martin as well as all without Smith.

But considering he just got to the team last year, had no preseason work and little camp to speak of, with more time with the receivers and in the offense it would be reasonable to assume he'd do more like 4,250 yards, 30 tds and 18 ints. No great numbers, but not bad, either.

So the Cowboys would probably be "competitive" with Dalton (assuming a 16 game availability) Gilbert didn't do all that bad in his one game, obviously needs game time experience. And if the Cowboys would let Dak walk, sign Dalton as a "stop gap", and you have Gilbert to "develop"

So there would be a plan b if Dak left. Not that I'd like to see that, but just noting it's not like the Cowboys don't have options..

Dalton go spanked by two playoff teams and an average team. he collected stats agaisnt 3 4 win teams, with their back up QBs and defense chipping in some scoring, and 9 turnovers.....Dalton was sucky to say the least. he folds in big moments and that's been his history.

 

[Dre11]

They fielded a playoff team 2 of those years. One that came about as close as we’ve come to a championship appearance this era . I’d argue Jethro thinks it’s relevant and interesting enough to build on.

Was it though? They were good on offense 2016 a lot of those players were holdovers, 2018 we know we were flawed team.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I think that would be better than overpaying for Dak. Having Dak with a lousy defense will get us several seasons of between 6 and 10 and 8 and 8. That's not the goal. I would rather rebuild with a focus on putting together a high-end defense.

so your idea is to draft a QB, groom him for 3 or 4 years (assuming he develops), then we get a one year window to making a run, then he is going to want a big contract and we move on....so your plan is to have a one year window every 4 or so years....

and secondly, how does paying dak exactly stop us from building a defense? this defense is lousy due to 15 years of bad defensive drafting. no amount of cap space is going to fix it through FA.

and lastly, if you would rather rebuild, then perhaps we should consider trading Gallup, Martin, Pollard, and maybe even Diggs, LVE and CD, cut Tyron, Lawrence, Zeke, Jaylon, just empty the tank and suck bad for a couple of years and just rebuild.....

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Then what...

Draft a QB . Do we try and move up in draft and what do we give up assuming anyone takes the bait or do we settle for whatever falls in our slot??

And how long until he’s developed assuming our Football Idiots draft someone as good as Dak has been.

Do we extend Dalton or go after another aged veteran QB to tie us over until we find a draft pick as good as we got lucky with Dak.

How many years do we wait to become relevant and interesting again?

Im not sure everyone has thought this thru.

Dalton will be re-signed and be our starter for 21.
Back-up just might be a rook.
Dak is R.I.P.

 

[foofighters]

There’s definitely some other Cap issues we can address. Like Lee, LVE, Jaylon and maybe even Tyron. All of which with injury history could be cuts that make more sense if Cap reductions are needed.

Oh, well my bad. I guess that's all it takes then...

are you suggesting to fill in the gaps with FAs and build through FA? has that every worked?

Nope. You build through the draft but you have to have money to pay your current players and you will have to spend some money in FA.

 

[john van brocklin]

But do you trust the same GM to build a decent team without Dak AND find a QB as good or better?

I don't trust our GM to tie his shoes correctly.

 

[john van brocklin]

Bingo! Yahtzee! Ollie ollie oxen free!!! Shazam!!! Gomer Pyle Shazam!!!!

The sticking point for me all throughout this journey. The assumption not paying Prescott builds a better team. Not only unfounded but proven to be historically dead wrong.

Oh to have a competent GM, but I digress.

 

[john van brocklin]

That gets tricky because he has to not only agree to the destination but the terms of the new agreement. The question remains. Just how many teams are willing to pay Prescott what he wants?

QB'S are a hot commodity right now.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

so your idea is to draft a QB, groom him for 3 or 4 years (assuming he develops), then we get a one year window to making a run, then he is going to want a big contract and we move on....so your plan is to have a one year window every 4 or so years....

and secondly, how does paying dak exactly stop us from building a defense? this defense is lousy due to 15 years of bad defensive drafting. no amount of cap space is going to fix it through FA.

and lastly, if you would rather rebuild, then perhaps we should consider trading Gallup, Martin, Pollard, and maybe even Diggs, LVE and CD, cut Tyron, Lawrence, Zeke, Jaylon, just empty the tank and suck bad for a couple of years and just rebuild.....

I'm not against paying Dak. I'm against overpaying him. If he would accept that's already been offered to him, the team would probably still have enough to build a D. If he keeps inflating it up, then it gets to the point of being too much. I can't believe he hasn't just accepted what's already been offered. It makes him a rich man.

 

[CyberB0b]

But the Cap is only going fine fir one season . The league is expected to add 17th game as soon as 2021 season and the new Network TV contracts and Collective Bargaining agreement in 2023 which has raised the cap significantly every time.

There’s no indication Jethro and Son are prepared to ditch the current talent they’ve accumulated for a total rebuild of sorts. McCarthy was brought in to win now.

I'm not sure we'll get to 2019 attendance in 2021, which will really start to effect things. TV ratings have been down across the board.

 

[FiveSuperBowls]

Then what...

Draft a QB . Do we try and move up in draft and what do we give up assuming anyone takes the bait or do we settle for whatever falls in our slot??

And how long until he’s developed assuming our Football Idiots draft someone as good as Dak has been.

Do we extend Dalton or go after another aged veteran QB to tie us over until we find a draft pick as good as we got lucky with Dak.

How many years do we wait to become relevant and interesting again?

Im not sure everyone has thought this thru.

Easy take a QB in the 4th.

 

[CWR]

Then what...

Draft a QB . Do we try and move up in draft and what do we give up assuming anyone takes the bait or do we settle for whatever falls in our slot??

And how long until he’s developed assuming our Football Idiots draft someone as good as Dak has been.

Do we extend Dalton or go after another aged veteran QB to tie us over until we find a draft pick as good as we got lucky with Dak.

How many years do we wait to become relevant and interesting again?

Im not sure everyone has thought this thru.

The days of Quincy, Hutchinson, Henson, Testaverde, and Ryan freaking Leaf are permanently etched into my memory. We also got lucky with Romo. We let Dak walk and it will likely be years before we compete again.

 

[basel90]

Then what...

Draft a QB . Do we try and move up in draft and what do we give up assuming anyone takes the bait or do we settle for whatever falls in our slot??

And how long until he’s developed assuming our Football Idiots draft someone as good as Dak has been.

Do we extend Dalton or go after another aged veteran QB to tie us over until we find a draft pick as good as we got lucky with Dak.

How many years do we wait to become relevant and interesting again?

Im not sure everyone has thought this thru.

let us face it , cowboys need a defense and OL repair to be compete for super bowls regardless of the QB. Let dak walk and start curring the dead wood and build towards 2022 and beyond by doing the following with the cap savings :

1- start dalton or gilbert in 2021. With dak we were 1-4 last season anyway before he got hurt .
2- Draft DE. Safety OL in the first round depending on best avaiable talent
3- Draft a QB in 2nd or 3rd round if you find one
4- use the cap savings to renew contracts of the top performers
5- Trade gallup for a star safety or LB

 

[Ranching]

Then what...

Draft a QB . Do we try and move up in draft and what do we give up assuming anyone takes the bait or do we settle for whatever falls in our slot??

And how long until he’s developed assuming our Football Idiots draft someone as good as Dak has been.

Do we extend Dalton or go after another aged veteran QB to tie us over until we find a draft pick as good as we got lucky with Dak.

How many years do we wait to become relevant and interesting again?

Im not sure everyone has thought this thru.

Andrew Luck??? He'd play for Jerry. They can stop at 7-11 for some wine.