Mike Bascik Spills Some Tea on Dak Situation

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I thought so but @gjkoeppen implied that the tag could be rescinded. Or at least that is what I thought he wrote.

Back to my first plan. Just let Dak be a FA. No one signing how until he can pass a physical.



I'll bet that actual GM's aren't falling for reports written by non doctors with zero first hand knowledge of what is going on and will go by what the actual surgeons that did the surgery have said which is that Prescott will good to go long before camp,opens so your idea that he would have to pass a physical is no different than any other player switching teams. They all take physicals. There have been players who got signed and then when they got there they flunked their physical and the contract was voided.
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The new league year doesn't start until March 17th. That means the current NFL year ends on March 16th not right after the Super Bowl like you think. Leagues and businesses don't have years that only run for 10 or 11 months, but for a year.

And no any player that WILL BECOME a free agent after the new year starts and free agency starts is still technically under contract and cant do anything until free agency starts.

Lastly if the Cowboys don't have access to Prescott's medical records the ONLY person that can give permission to see them is Prescott. Agents aren't listed in HIPAA as people with authority to get or divulge medical information. You need to stop making up rules to fit your agenda.
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My man this is simply not accurate.
League year is for accounting purposes, not player.
Players have exit interviews and then are released for the off-season.
The day after the Super Bowl is the end of the "season".
And there are in-season and off-season rules.

A player in an off-season program that is not under contract the following season owes his team essentially zero.

HIPAA doesn't work that way. It providers security and regulatory guidelines mostly for healthcare personnel.
It makes special exceptions for Business associates with legal standing. Agents are already under strict guidelines for player representation.
Agents generally have full access to medical status for purposes of doing their job.
They cannot disclose anything a player doesn't want disclosed but again that is not about HIPAA but general client/attorney relationships.
 

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We can trade a one legged Dak for Wentz straight up. That would be a good move my man.
No way, Wentz seems like a primadonna and very high maintenance. And talent wise he's the worst of the 3 of Dak, Goff and him. Now if we lost Dak and traded a 3rd for Wentz, then yes, I'm all in. He seems like a cry baby though. but again if we traded Dak, or Dak couldn't play cuz of this mysterious issue only 1% of the human population knows about, lol, then I'd trade for Wentz. No higher than a 2nd rounder tho.
 

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My man this is simply not accurate.
League year is for accounting purposes, not player.
Players have exit interviews and then are released for the off-season.
The day after the Super Bowl is the end of the "season".
And there are in-season and off-season rules.

A player in an off-season program that is not under contract the following season owes his team essentially zero.

HIPAA doesn't work that way. It providers security and regulatory guidelines mostly for healthcare personnel.
It makes special exceptions for Business associates with legal standing. Agents are already under strict guidelines for player representation.
Agents generally have full access to medical status for purposes of doing their job.
They cannot disclose anything a player doesn't want disclosed but again that is not about HIPAA but general client/attorney relationships.




You're full of poop. I had a job that required to be HIPAA certified and nowhere does it have where a business has special exceptions. The ONLY exceptions are attorneys who are involved in a case that requires a person's medical records and even at that they still have to make a request in court for those records if the records are not his clients records. If it's his client, the client still has to give the attorney permission to have them.

If a player isn't under contract he CAN'T participate in any off season programs like OTA's or mini camps. They are allowed to use like the weight room until free agency starts.

Teams have exit meeting with as many players as they can fit in, those under contract and those who will become free agents when THEIR CONTRACTS ARE UP.

Here's a little something that proves you WRONG AGAIN. "When the new league year begins, contracts from the previous season expire" This from the NFL own site.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2020-nfl-f...l-the-terms-you-need-to-know-0ap3000001106817

Like I said, stop making up stuff to fit your agenda.
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Anyone hear Cross Talk between Shan & RJ and the K&C Masterpiece this morning on the Fan? Mike Bascik flew off the rails on the Dak contract discussion and made some seriously bold claims.

He said he wasn't allowed to divulge the fine details, but mentioned that Dak is dealing with more than simply a broken ankle and these next 5 to 6 months are absolutely critical for rehab and basically determining if Dak can play football ever again. Mike said that there is a real "20 percent chance" that Dak never plays football again. Mentioned that the Cowboys are aware of the issue that he knows about, and said that it looks like almost an impossibility that the Cowboys fork over 170+ million dollars to a QB that's dealing with what Dak is dealing with. Also mentioned that releasing him after June with a franchise tag is also a realistic possibility.

I'm not strongly for or against Dak being signed here long term, but this certainly ignites some serious discussion. And for the clowns on this forum that will immediately dismiss this as fake news, Bascik is extremely plugged into the network in the Metroplex and also has numerous connections in the local medical network, since he himself is married to a physician. He was dropping hints of Dak having a second surgery over a month before national media got a hold of that story.

This is a crazy development.
If you just stopped a moment and thought it thru..

surgery on an injury like Dak had is complicated and is going to take as much luck as good medical repairing.

I never for a minute thought what was ahead for him was a given. He has months of rehab ahead and it will have setbacks along the way.

Guaranteed.

So the fact the team is posturing saying it wants to Tag Dak again all sounds loyal..

but the team has no clue how this is going to play out.

There are 52 other players and countless staff and their families with an investment in the team success.

I so absolutely can not see the team in a critical rebuild year where every dollar has to be directed at improving so many positions just to return to respectability..

You just do not reinvest in Dak at nearly $40 mil in 2021.

You wait. You have to.

Everything has changed. If we were one player away from contending..maybe.

But Moore is not established as an OC. Big Mike has back pedaled from taking responsibility for Dak's development.

And there was clearly only one reason McCarthy was hired..

to take Dak to the next level.

Did any of us see anything in Big Mike that said he is in control of a clear plan?

Nope. We just saw bad coaching hires, bad FA player signings that had to be reworked halfway thru the season..

poor playcalling by Big Mike that only accelerated more losing.

So do any of us think that is going to reverse anytime soon?

Raise your hands and tell me why.

Waiting.
 

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It never ceases to amaze me how many people who aren't doctors or even have spouses who are doctors that make profound medical statements on someone that they have never examined and that their profound medical statements are the opposite of those who have been treating the person. The actual surgeon that did the surgeries has said that Prescott will be go to go long before camp starts and have never even so much as hinted that there is a 20% chance that Prescott may never play again. Now I can't speak for anyone else, but I'll go EVERY time with the surgeon that actually did the surgery and see the person over ANYONE who hasn't even examined the person or even talked to the person. Those that take ANY stock in this I'll bet also believe there was a second gunman in the grassy knoll too.
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It is quite amazing. But since the beginning of time the ignorant have been easy to fool.
 

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You are the last one to call for that since you routinely refer to Jones as booger. Now as a mod I would have thought that the other mods would have told you that being disrespectful to the owner of the team that this site is about doesn't look good done by a mod.
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Dream on.
 

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The mouth breathers love this guy as well as Colin Cowturd.:espn:
 

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Yeah I understand that. I’m not accusing anyone at the Fan of anything.

I’m just saying I’m not going to get all worked up about one report from one dude at the Fan either way.
This is how I feel now that I've thought about for a while. We'll find out a lot during the draft. As another poster said that if we take a QB with #10 or in the 2nd round then there's concern about Dak's long term future in Dallas.

I'm also a little skeptical of a guy that says he knows something only 1% of the population knows. That seems to be a little more attention grabbing than reporting.

You know what I want the Cowboys to do. Sign Dak to a 2 year deal for 80 million and back load the contract. Draft a QB and work on developing him. Ala Green Bay with Rodgers and Jordan. If Dak recovers and balls out the next 2 years then resign him long term. If he struggles then you got his replacement already there and knowing the offense. Now everyone don't scream at me about the 2 year contract and money. You get the jist of what I'm saying. Sign him to a 2 or 3 year deal, draft his replacement, and if Dak recovers and is all pro then trade the replacement, if Dak struggles and replacement does well then let Dak walk and go with replacement.
 

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If you just stopped a moment and thought it thru..

surgery on an injury like Dak had is complicated and is going to take as much luck as good medical repairing.

I never for a minute thought what was ahead for him was a given. He has months of rehab ahead and it will have setbacks along the way.

Guaranteed.

So the fact the team is posturing saying it wants to Tag Dak again all sounds loyal..

but the team has no clue how this is going to play out.

There are 52 other players and countless staff and their families with an investment in the team success.

I so absolutely can not see the team in a critical rebuild year where every dollar has to be directed at improving so many positions just to return to respectability..

You just do not reinvest in Dak at nearly $40 mil in 2021.

You wait. You have to.

Everything has changed. If we were one player away from contending..maybe.

But Moore is not established as an OC. Big Mike has back pedaled from taking responsibility for Dak's development.

And there was clearly only one reason McCarthy was hired..

to take Dak to the next level.

Did any of us see anything in Big Mike that said he is in control of a clear plan?

Nope. We just saw bad coaching hires, bad FA player signings that had to be reworked halfway thru the season..

poor playcalling by Big Mike that only accelerated more losing.

So do any of us think that is going to reverse anytime soon?

Raise your hands and tell me why.

Waiting.
Bull****. He had a compound fracture. That’s where the bone comes through the skin. It’s a clean break and easily healed and ends up being stronger than it was before because of the calcium buildup around the break. This whole thing is some turd who saw that Dak had a 2nd surgery to clean up an ankle, that was totally unrelated to the fracture, and went all Karen. Mouth breathers will believe anything because they’re too lazy to research the issue for themselves.
 

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Okay, it looks like he's suckling upon the green slime that Nickelodeon drops on goobers.

The NFL is really trying to get the kids into football again!
Seems they’re doing a good job of it.
 

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Anyone hear Cross Talk between Shan & RJ and the K&C Masterpiece this morning on the Fan? Mike Bascik flew off the rails on the Dak contract discussion and made some seriously bold claims.

He said he wasn't allowed to divulge the fine details, but mentioned that Dak is dealing with more than simply a broken ankle and these next 5 to 6 months are absolutely critical for rehab and basically determining if Dak can play football ever again. Mike said that there is a real "20 percent chance" that Dak never plays football again. Mentioned that the Cowboys are aware of the issue that he knows about, and said that it looks like almost an impossibility that the Cowboys fork over 170+ million dollars to a QB that's dealing with what Dak is dealing with. Also mentioned that releasing him after June with a franchise tag is also a realistic possibility.

I'm not strongly for or against Dak being signed here long term, but this certainly ignites some serious discussion. And for the clowns on this forum that will immediately dismiss this as fake news, Bascik is extremely plugged into the network in the Metroplex and also has numerous connections in the local medical network, since he himself is married to a physician. He was dropping hints of Dak having a second surgery over a month before national media got a hold of that story.

This is a crazy development.

My father is actually a retired orthopedic surgeon and he said that what happened to Dak was serious stuff. I wouldnt be shocked if that was the case. If there is anything to worry about in that regard then looking at QB in this draft is something they have to do.
 

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My father is actually a retired orthopedic surgeon and he said that what happened to Dak was serious stuff. I wouldnt be shocked if that was the case. If there is anything to worry about in that regard then looking at QB in this draft is something they have to do.





Your father who very well could have been a very fine othpod, but he is just like ALL other doctors that have never examined Prescott nor was there for either surgery. Every doctor I've heard explain anything and after doing it have said something like since I haven't examined the patient or was there for that procedure I really can't say with any certainty what the outcome will be. Nobody hasn't said it wasn't a serious injury, but that doesn't mean that it can't and hasn't been surgically repaired and that Prescott will be good to go just like the surgeon who did the surgery said.
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