NFL ranks Dak 16 out of 32 QBs

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The Dak hater trying to claim others aren’t objective. Lol

Yeah a fascinating attempt to redirect on his part.. "This thread is about what NFL GMs and personnel people think..." The hell it is.. the thread is about a couple of self-proclaimed "expert's" opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. Fine if they wanna take their word for it but it would be fun to see what would happen if Dak were allowed to hit the open market. I'm guessing Jerry and Stephen already know which is why there aint about to let it happen.
 

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16? Wow that's a stretch. Do YOU personally have 15 qbs you can honestly put in front of him?

I've got:
Mahomes
Rodgers
Brady
Wilson
Allen
Dak
Herbert
Watson
Murray
Jackson
Stafford
Car
Ryan
Goff
Tanny

Off the top of my head I've got him conservatively 6-10. Thats not a Dak fan boy ranking or a hater. Many of those are interchangeable. In any event Dak is probably 5-8.

Yes I'd pay him, because he seems to improve each year and I dont believe he's the type that will get paid and get lazy. Also because drafting a QB is a crap shoot and we have a ton of offensive talent. Imagine a world where we had a decent defense. With the current structure of the league most QBs are in the AFC now. This is the perfect time to make a run in the NFC.
What ? Dak ahead of Watson , Murray , stafford , Jackson , mayfield , Herbert ?, no way !!!
Dak is 12-14 territory
 

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What ? Dak ahead of Watson , Murray , stafford , Jackson , mayfield , Herbert ?, no way !!!
Dak is 12-14 territory

Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. However merely typing it onto the screen over and over won't validate anyone's opinion. The proof will be in the pudding. Dak will either pick up his record setting pace from 2020 when he gets back in (I hope not) or he won't. I say I hope not because I don't want us to be this throw it 50 times a game team. It exposes our defense to much and it wastes our running back while forcing our linemen to be the hittees more often than the hitters. I don't think that's winning football. I want Dak back healthy and throwing it 30-35 times a game while managing us to wins. If people use the NOT record setting numbers to claim it "proves he's not worth the money" that's their problem. I want wins not records. Knowing that Dak can put up those numbers if need be is good enough. Defenses will know it when they play us so they will have to play the offense honest which will afford the running game opportunity to get busy. We know there will be games when teams sell out to stop the run and Dak should eat those defenses alive. If he can't, THEN he will not be worth the money..
 

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Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. However merely typing it onto the screen over and over won't validate anyone's opinion. The proof will be in the pudding. Dak will either pick up his record setting pace from 2020 when he gets back in (I hope not) or he won't. I say I hope not because I don't want us to be this throw it 50 times a game team. It exposes our defense to much and it wastes our running back while forcing our linemen to be the hittees more often than the hitters. I don't think that's winning football. I want Dak back healthy and throwing it 30-35 times a game while managing us to wins. If people use the NOT record setting numbers to claim it "proves he's not worth the money" that's their problem. I want wins not records. Knowing that Dak can put up those numbers if need be is good enough. Defenses will know it when they play us so they will have to play the offense honest which will afford the running game opportunity to get busy. We know there will be games when teams sell out to stop the run and Dak should eat those defenses alive. If he can't, THEN he will not be worth the money..
The problem is that Dak has been stopped at every crucial games , with good and bad teams . His yards are system yards behinds top tier OL WR RB . He had 5 years to show what he can do and failed . Jerry is about to force Stephen to pay Dak 40 mil , and we will be screwed with a mediocre QB .
Curious to know What teams have Dak eastern alive ? He failed to score 1 TD against the lowly eagles defense last season . We were losing at home to the giants when he got hurt , and we were 1-4 with him .
 

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Parr: Prescott was on pace to shatter the single-season passing yards record before a gruesome ankle injury robbed him of a chance to make history. The small sample size is probably the only thing keeping him from ending up higher on this list.


Didn’t Dak look great the year before after 3 games? Then Dak fell apart most of the rest of the season doing nothing against the Jets - NE - Saints - Eagles
 

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The article on NFL ranks Dak at exactly #16

Some of you want to pay the 16th ranked QB 40 million dollars a year crippling this teams chances of doing anything meaningful for atleast 4 more years

please explain....
Middle of the road QB = Average at best, so why all the talk about $40 million contracts???????? He wasn't worth that amount when he was healthy and he sure the hell isn't worth it with that bad wheel he has to lug around. Throw $30 million on the table and call it a day, if he passes then start throwing that cash at the defense. Brady is a great QB, but it his defense hadn't shown up prior to the playoffs he would of been home playing Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Moe with the kids.
 

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Didn't he also get embarrassed by Josh Allen (who a lot of the sheep said was worse than Dak at the time).
Don't forget the Trubisky-Cousins embarrassment.
Look at all the game stats as Dak is MIA the 1st 3 quarters of the games.
When the smell of garbage is in the air Dak starts padding them stats with the end result being another loss for Big D.
 

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The problem is that Dak has been stopped at every crucial games , with good and bad teams . His yards are system yards behinds top tier OL WR RB . He had 5 years to show what he can do and failed . Jerry is about to force Stephen to pay Dak 40 mil , and we will be screwed with a mediocre QB .
Curious to know What teams have Dak eastern alive ? He failed to score 1 TD against the lowly eagles defense last season . We were losing at home to the giants when he got hurt , and we were 1-4 with him .
This is why you can’t take Dak Haters seriously. They live in a fantasy world...


The score was Cowboys 24 Giants 23 3rd Qtr 6:44mins

When Dak got hurt, Dak had just ran for 9 yards on 1st down to the Giants 18 yard line...

Dak Haters are imbeciles....
 

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16? Wow that's a stretch. Do YOU personally have 15 qbs you can honestly put in front of him?

I've got:
Mahomes
Rodgers
Brady
Wilson
Allen
Dak
Herbert
Watson
Murray
Jackson
Stafford
Car
Ryan
Goff
Tanny

Off the top of my head I've got him conservatively 6-10. Thats not a Dak fan boy ranking or a hater. Many of those are interchangeable. In any event Dak is probably 5-8.

Yes I'd pay him, because he seems to improve each year and I dont believe he's the type that will get paid and get lazy. Also because drafting a QB is a crap shoot and we have a ton of offensive talent. Imagine a world where we had a decent defense. With the current structure of the league most QBs are in the AFC now. This is the perfect time to make a run in the NFC.

I've got some issues with this.
While I disagree with your slotting at 1 through 5, I agree with the picks. After that I have SERIOUS issues. Murray and Jackson are not even QB's imo, Herbert, Stafford, Ryan and Carr as passers (which is QB's are supposed to do) are better than Dak, they just are and if they could be had for less money on a better contract that could help the team get a defense would be preferred. Goff sucks, Tanny can go elswhere as can Watson he's another team killer ala SCam Newton, who I always thought was way overrated as a QB.
 
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This is why you can’t take Dak Haters seriously. They live in a fantasy world...


The score was Cowboys 24 Giants 23 3rd Qtr 6:44mins

When Dak got hurt, Dak had just ran for 9 yards on 1st down to the Giants 18 yard line...

Dak Haters are imbeciles....
You’re so superficial hanging on a thread of gray details . dalton WON that game . By the way Dak also had a pick ,
Dak lovers like you also want to gloss over the 1-4 record start with Dak . Typical Dak slobberer
 

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You’re so superficial hanging on a thread of gray details . dalton WON that game . By the way Dak also had a pick ,
Dak lovers like you also want to gloss over the 1-4 record start with Dak . Typical Dak slobberer

In the real world we call dem Facts Sir! The Cowboys were NOT losing when Dak got hurt and starting QBs always get the win or loss no matter your “Eye Test” knowledge.


Deuces Dak Hater:lmao2:
 
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The problem is that Dak has been stopped at every crucial games , with good and bad teams . His yards are system yards behinds top tier OL WR RB . He had 5 years to show what he can do and failed . Jerry is about to force Stephen to pay Dak 40 mil , and we will be screwed with a mediocre QB .
Curious to know What teams have Dak eastern alive ? He failed to score 1 TD against the lowly eagles defense last season . We were losing at home to the giants when he got hurt , and we were 1-4 with him .

Dude please if you are going to come at me at least have the decency to come with basic facts. Did you watch the games at all. The Cowboys were leading 24-23 when Dak got hurt and were driving to extend the lead. And we were 2-3 not 1-4. It's hard to take you seriously if you're going to come that weak. Dak has shown plenty whether you want to see it or not is immaterial. In his three playoff games the guy you say has been "stopped at every crucial games" the offense has scored 31, 24 and 22 points respectively. That's a solid 25.7 ppg in the playoffs.. Some might contend that playoff teams tend to have decent defenses.. Dak has never experienced being held under 22 points in a playoff game. If you think that's no big deal it might interest you to know that Tom Brady has led HIS teams to less than 22 points in the playoffs 15 times in 45 playoff starts. Aaron Rodgers has done it 7 times in 21 starts.. Romo managed to do it 4 times in his 6 playoff starts. How has Dak played in the playoffs? 64.1 completion percentage, 265 yards/game, 5 TDs 2 INTs. Two rushing TDs thrown in for good measure. 7 TDs to 2 turnovers in the playoffs. But you're right, playoff games are not "crucial" so those should not count.

The only reason Dak hasn't won more playoff games is that while his offense has been scoring 25.7 ppg his defense has been giving up 26.7 ppg. Prescott has had his shortcomings over these first 4 years.. but we knew from the git go that he was a raw prospect who would need some years to develop. Which he has and continues to do so. "Which teams has Dak eastern alive?" I will go ahead and autocorrect that for you and tell you to take your pick.. He has 7 career games of over 400 yards passing. He has 32 career games with a passer rating over 100. In 20 of those he had a passer rating greater than 110. . He has 19 games with at least 3 TD passes.. 20 if you count the playoff game against the Packers. I suspect whichever defense he had those performances against felt like they were "eaten alive." Or "eastern" if you prefer.

I should also point out that if in fact the Cowboys sign Dak and you hate him so much you are certainly free to not watch the team with this "mediocre QB." No need to put yourself through anymore suffering right?
 

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Didn't he also get embarrassed by Josh Allen (who a lot of the sheep said was worse than Dak at the time).

I'm not sure how Dak can get embarrassed by the other QB torching out pathetic defense? If you had said Tank, Jaylon and Lee got embarrassed you might have something..
 

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In the real world we call dem Facts Sir! The Cowboys were NOT losing when Dak got hurt and starting QBs always get the win or loss no matter your “Eye Test” knowledge.


Deuces Dak Hater:lmao2:

you seem to also ignore that 1-4 under our great starter is a losing record . Just a reminder :)
 

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Didn’t Dak look great the year before after 3 games? Then Dak fell apart most of the rest of the season doing nothing against the Jets - NE - Saints - Eagles

Lemme see.. After the Jets game Dak had 4 games with at least 3 TD, 6 games with a passer rating above 100 and a 397 yard 3 TD game against the Vikings followed by a 444 yard 3 TD games against the Lions while he was "falling apart." Your definition of falling apart clearly differs from mine.. Which is not to say he didn't need to play better.. But he had 19 TD and 5 INTs in the last 10 games that season. He needed some help... and he didn't get it.. The line got its arse handed to it in too many games that year. And was starting out that way this year. Management needs to fix the defense and the o-line or it won't matter who we put at QB or RB for that matter. We can't overcome a defense that wants to give up 30 ppg.
 

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you seem to also ignore that 1-4 under our great starter is a losing record . Just a reminder :)

It's pretty easy to ignore something that literally never happened. Look up the last time the Cowboys were 1-4. (Hint .. it wasn't 2020.)
 

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The article on NFL ranks Dak at exactly #16

Some of you want to pay the 16th ranked QB 40 million dollars a year crippling this teams chances of doing anything meaningful for atleast 4 more years

please explain....
He isnt the 16th ranked QB that's why....he is top 10 easy
 

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Give me a tall pure pocket passer a good RB and a good defense. Every multiple Superbowl winning QB since '95 has been a tall pure pocket passer with a good RB and had a good defense.

Eli
Payton
Ben
Brady
Elway

I don't want a Superbowl I want several Superbowls. I want a dynasty.
 
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