Let’s compare Devin White with Jaylon

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The issue I have with Jalon is how often he gets pushed 5-10 yards back while making the tackle. He is weak at the point of contact. Just looking at tackles is misleading.
 

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I was really impressed with Devin White’s play this year and thought we should compare him with another highly touted lb coming out of college in Jaylon. Keep in mind that Devin played in 15 games vs Jaylon’s 16.

Total tackles
Jaylon 154
Devin 140

Solo tackles
Jaylon 89
Devin 97

Sacks
Jaylon 1.5
Devin 9 (wow!)

Tackles for loss
Jaylon 5
Devin 15

QB hits
Jaylon 4
Devin 16

The Bucs proved that spending a top 5 pick on a lb is not a mistake.
Bucs use an attacking style. Nolan started with a soft reactive approach that left this team in a horrible spot. Most of Jaylons plays came later in the yr when he was alllowed to attack rather than react in pass coverage. NOlan used Jaylon in coverage because Lee and Vander esch were hurt and he was stuck with joe thomas who is horrible in coverage.
 

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The issue I have with Jalon is how often he gets pushed 5-10 yards back while making the tackle. He is weak at the point of contact. Just looking at tackles is misleading.

He doesn’t or won’t attempt to stand a blocker up keeping an arm free to make a tackle. Often he will approach an OL upright and try to go around him shuffling his feet instead of stacking and shedding.
 

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I was really impressed with Devin White’s play this year and thought we should compare him with another highly touted lb coming out of college in Jaylon. Keep in mind that Devin played in 15 games vs Jaylon’s 16.

Total tackles
Jaylon 154
Devin 140

Solo tackles
Jaylon 89
Devin 97

Sacks
Jaylon 1.5
Devin 9 (wow!)

Tackles for loss
Jaylon 5
Devin 15

QB hits
Jaylon 4
Devin 16

The Bucs proved that spending a top 5 pick on a lb is not a mistake.

Lets compare Booboo with Jaylon:

BooBoo: 1
Jaylon: 0
 

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I was really impressed with Devin White’s play this year and thought we should compare him with another highly touted lb coming out of college in Jaylon. Keep in mind that Devin played in 15 games vs Jaylon’s 16.

Total tackles
Jaylon 154
Devin 140

Solo tackles
Jaylon 89
Devin 97

Sacks
Jaylon 1.5
Devin 9 (wow!)

Tackles for loss
Jaylon 5
Devin 15

QB hits
Jaylon 4
Devin 16

The Bucs proved that spending a top 5 pick on a lb is not a mistake.
Throw LVEs stats in there? Too many fans give him a free pass
 

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Throw LVEs stats in there? Too many fans give him a free pass
Total tackles
Jaylon 154
Devin 140
LVE 60

Solo tackles
Jaylon 89
Devin 97
LVE 32

Sacks
Jaylon 1.5
Devin 9 (wow!)
LVE 1

Tackles for loss
Jaylon 5
Devin 15
LVE 1

QB hits
Jaylon 4
Devin 16
LVE 1
 

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I was really impressed with Devin White’s play this year and thought we should compare him with another highly touted lb coming out of college in Jaylon. Keep in mind that Devin played in 15 games vs Jaylon’s 16.

Total tackles
Jaylon 154
Devin 140

Solo tackles
Jaylon 89
Devin 97

Sacks
Jaylon 1.5
Devin 9 (wow!)

Tackles for loss
Jaylon 5
Devin 15

QB hits
Jaylon 4
Devin 16

The Bucs proved that spending a top 5 pick on a lb is not a mistake.
There is NO comparison. Jaylon gets his tackles in pursuit 10 yards or more down field after picking the wrong hole in a feeble attempt to make a stop
 

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No sir,, please do not try and compare these two..
This is becoming quite comical...
Jaylon vs Devin White...lol
whats next
Jaylon vs
Roquan Smith
Zach Cunningham
even Joe Shoebert ....lol
You guys that just think you can look at numbers somehow replaces the time it actually takes to actually watch the talent and understand that stats are not the reality of what real talent is.
Watch how Jaylon leads the league in assists,,, if you like stats you can jump all over that one.
When Sean Lee was healthy and playing well, he consistently diagnosed plays, just prior to the snap. Basically, he knew where the ball was going. He would react and step into the hole before the blockers could react. He consistently made plays within 1-2 yards of the LOS. Does Jaylon EVER read the play just before the snap, and react quick enough to beat the blocker, and make a tackle at the LOS. Almost never! His ability to diagnose a play pre snap is extremely poor and his lateral movement is extremely poor, probably due to his injury. He is NOT in Whites league, not even close!!!
 

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I bet if you ask any RB what linebacker they would most like to face on the field in a 1v1 and you'd get an overwhelming amount in favor of Jaylon.
 

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I agree brother. I cant forget 2018, he looked awesome. I dont understand the drop off. Coming into last season I said the same thing. That said our DTs were terrible so nothing changed. I still believe there has to be a way to rediscover 2018 Jaylon. I haven't given up completely, but I do wish we hadn't re-signed him.
in 2018 I was still skeptical. He looked smooth to many around here, but I still had my doubts and I was 100% smith supporter up to that point.
 
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I think you have to watch Smith closely to fully appreciate the buffoonery.
 

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Jaylon and LVE both made some terrible plays last year. Like, plays that were so bad that I don't have any faith that a new DC or better DTs can salvage their careers. They were frequently running in the wrong direction.
 

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The following sentence summaries my take on Jaylon Smith:

He has the same response time as internet explorer on windows 98.
 

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Now can we get the Lavonte David/LVE comparison.....that should be intriguing too?
 

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I get the good players surrounding him, but where does this notion that having a Todd Bowles type DC matters come from?
They don't have a Todd Bowles type, the have Todd Bowles. I'm just saying that they have a good DC.
 

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Lets compare Booboo with Jaylon:

BooBoo: 1
Jaylon: 0

I would like to know how Booboo comes out on top here without any real data to back your statement up. No stats no win for booboo.
 

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Now can we get the Lavonte David/LVE comparison.....that should be intriguing too?

I think the reason LVE is getting a small pass is due to his much lower salary and cap hit and the fact he was injured. But he should be scrutinized especially if the Cowboys extend him. My issue with LVE is that he also reads plays a tick late and lacks physicality at the point of attack. I don't facepalm as often with LVE as I do Jaylon but that's subjective.
 
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