The reason Dak isn't signed yet

[LittleD]

Then we should let all of our keep players go like Elliott, Cooper and Lawrence for draft picks if we truly believe it’s time for a total rebuild.

Amazing how we are one year removed from a team that should have won division and making noise in the playoffs from being several years away, all because we can’t get our QB signed.

We already have to sign bargain bin players for replacements. If Dak signs with us for only 3 years, we will be in cap hell for 5 years. This team is toast for years to come I'm sad to say.

 

[LittleD]

He want to hit the market once that new TV money hit the cap.

Let him sign a non-exclusive tag this year and then trade him to whomever will pony up.

 

[waving monkey]

Good luck finding a decent QB unless you draft one

I responded to your statement is all. Wilson included Dallas in the teams i'd like to play for. It is possible

 

[waving monkey]

What's the cost?

DAk plus

 

[buybuydandavis]

1. His asking price must be too high again
2. Mike M must not have full faith in him, as does Stephen
Both go hand in hand.

If they thought he was the elite QB, some here believe, he would get whatever. Mike would let it be known, "bro, we need this dude by any means"

I'm not a Dak fan, but ready for this to be over.

Trade him or just out right let him walk.

A likely problem is the uncertainty of where the cap will go with the new tv contracts.

The latest rumor of a 30% increase in the NFL contract for Disney/ABC would tend to justify an expectation of a big jump in cap, and hence the market price for a QB.

If I'm Dak's agent, I would have probably refused to sign until the new tv contracts were out, and that 30% increase would prove that waiting was the right call.

I've thought that Dak and his agent have wanted to reach free agency. But maybe it's just that they anticipate a big jump in the tv contracts, and want to wait until that's established before making a deal.

Trouble is, we can't tell which one it is from behavior, and if he just wants to reach free agency, we're gonna wish we had traded him while we had the chance.

 

[buybuydandavis]

If the reports are true that Dak wanted to sign the contract last year but it was too late than I believe Dak wants to be here and it is his agent who is holding him back.

I wrote off that theory. Could very well be true, but it's also just what I'd expect a player to say to keep as much fan goodwill as possible when he doesn't sign a contract. What we *observe* under each theory is the same.

 

[kskboys]

I wrote off that theory. Could very well be true, but it's also just what I'd expect a player to say to keep as much fan goodwill as possible when he doesn't sign a contract. What we *observe* under each theory is the same.

I felt the same way.

Dak was a very popular player. But, after this greedy contract showing, fans are turning on him in droves. I thought him claiming that he himself came in and tried to get it done last minute was nothing but a stunt to turn fans back to his favor. If Dak wanted a deal done, a deal would've been done. The salary being offered was commensurate w/ his experience and talent level.

 

[plymkr]

Seems you're out of the Dak closet for good now!
I did you favor as you don't have to hide your true feelings on the matter anymore.
Now go to the 1:45 mark and face reality.
Post your correction statement here just the right thing to do.

Ok not to get in the middle of your guys' fight. But I'm a stats guy with an open mind to the eye test.

I'm a little shocked that Dak is 6-20 against teams with winning records since his rookie year.

Wow!!! That's alarming. There were some games that he didn't pass the eye test, meaning he just looked like he played bad, especially in 2019. But 6-20 against winning records is very alarming. We did not have historically bad defenses in 2017, 2018 and 2019.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Ok not to get in the middle of your guys' fight. But I'm a stats guy with an open mind to the eye test.

I'm a little shocked that Dak is 6-20 against teams with winning records since his rookie year.

Wow!!! That's alarming. There were some games that he didn't pass the eye test, meaning he just looked like he played bad, especially in 2019. But 6-20 against winning records is very alarming. We did not have historically bad defenses in 2017, 2018 and 2019.

And they wonder why Jerry who pays everyone under the sun won't give Dak a new long-term deal?
Beating Dog teams like the Giants and D.C. is pretty much Dak's swan song.
Only Jerry could have us waiting on this matter as anywhere else in the NFL Dak would have been released already!

 

[buybuydandavis]

I felt the same way.

Dak was a very popular player. But, after this greedy contract showing, fans are turning on him in droves. I thought him claiming that he himself came in and tried to get it done last minute was nothing but a stunt to turn fans back to his favor. If Dak wanted a deal done, a deal would've been done. The salary being offered was commensurate w/ his experience and talent level.

Could have been genuine, could have been a stunt. Can't tell either way. Even as a stunt, it at least showed intelligence, instead of bitterness.

I'm getting more positive on Dak wanting to stay here. Used to think he just wanted to hit free agency to maximize his contract, and thought was short-sighted, given the pluses the Cowboy brand brings.

The *smart* thing for him to do financially, IMO, is not sign until the tv contracts are done, because they should explode market prices, but *then* sign with the Cowboys for the marketing mojo and fan continuity. The ankle injury should be a big fan bonding bonus, *if* he stays here.

As it turns out, his actions are also consistent with doing the smart thing. And he *hasn't* been taking grievance to the media, and however you slice it, wanted to keep in good with the fans. It all looks smart. I think I'm going with that now.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

24 to 23 when Dak was injured. Splitting hairs but fine, Dak won 2 games this season.

splitting hairs? its a lead. you are trying to dismiss facts/...

 

[buybuydandavis]

I'm a little shocked that Dak is 6-20 against teams with winning records since his rookie year.

Team game.

When I went through the games and looked at Dak's play, instead of just the team outcome, Dak had a few fails, but generally wasn't the problem.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Officially this is correct . But merely a technicality. We lost the lead after Andy came in and he had to rally us.

no technicality....he had the lead at 24-20 at half time....Giants got the ball second half, scored 3 points, because our defense couldn't stop an inept Giants offense....Dak was driving the team down for another score, when he got injured on the 19, which is technically in scoring position already (since you like technicalities).....Zeke then ran it in from 12.......

Andy came in, LOST the lead because of his ineptness. he made a desparate throw and Gallup made a very acrobatic catch to give the kicker a chance to win the game in the end...so TECHNICALLY speaking, Andy was handed a lead, the ball in scoring position and he LOST the lead...technically speaking that is.....he didn't rally the team...he screwed things up....technically speaking.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I felt the same way.

Dak was a very popular player. But, after this greedy contract showing, fans are turning on him in droves. I thought him claiming that he himself came in and tried to get it done last minute was nothing but a stunt to turn fans back to his favor. If Dak wanted a deal done, a deal would've been done. The salary being offered was commensurate w/ his experience and talent level.

why is it that when players want money, they are called greedy, but when owners don't want to pay, fans cheer on....the money is the money.......Dak is as greedy as Jerry Jones.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

And they wonder why Jerry who pays everyone under the sun won't give Dak a new long-term deal?
Beating Dog teams like the Giants and D.C. is pretty much Dak's swan song.
Only Jerry could have us waiting on this matter as anywhere else in the NFL Dak would have been released already!

same teams that blew us out of the water with Dalton...AWSOME.....

 

[Seven]

1. His asking price must be too high again

2. Mike M must not have full faith in him, as does Stephen

Both go hand in hand.

If they thought he was the elite QB, some here believe, he would get whatever. Mike would let it be known, "bro, we need this dude by any means"

I'm not a Dak fan, but ready for this to be over.

Trade him or just out right let him walk.

Very insightful.......not.

At least post something....... anything.

 

[plymkr]

splitting hairs? its a lead. you are trying to dismiss facts/...

Fine, so this explodes Dak's winning percentage to 40% for this season and Andy, GG and Nooch had a 36% winning percentage.with the same team.

It is splitting hairs because there is no tangible difference to our record with Dak starting in week 4 of 2019. This whole team has sucked in all areas, Dak included, since the 3-0 start of 2019.

Dak is a part of the Cowboys and the Cowboys have sucked the last two years. Dak has been average in most games with a couple great games and a couple bad games.

This team needs to be blown up and completely rebuilt for several reasons. Attitude, entitlement, talent, bad contracts and change of culture.

Dak is an above average franchise QB on a below average team and he makes the games a little more exciting but in the end it's the same results. We lose to good teams and we beat bad teams. If we sign Dak to a 42 million dollar deal for 3 years our cap will be killed and our below average roster will be worse.

It's not that I'm against Dak. I'm not, in fact I would love to keep Dak. I would be jumping for joy if Dak pulled a Tom Brady and played for 20-25 million. But he won't and if I was him I wouldn't either. I'd get every penny I can. I want to make this very, very clear. If we traded for Wilson I would feel the exact same way as I would if we sign Dak. This team sucks and if we have a 40 million dollar QB we will suck and be 8-8 at best. Patrick Mahomes and Brady in his prime could not save this roster.

So I'm not against Dak. I'm against a 40-45 million dollar salary killing the cap. If we have that, regardless who the QB is, we will be average.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Ok not to get in the middle of your guys' fight. But I'm a stats guy with an open mind to the eye test.

I'm a little shocked that Dak is 6-20 against teams with winning records since his rookie year.

Wow!!! That's alarming. There were some games that he didn't pass the eye test, meaning he just looked like he played bad, especially in 2019. But 6-20 against winning records is very alarming. We did not have historically bad defenses in 2017, 2018 and 2019.

Zeke is usually a no show vs good teams. He got paid to be elite. That imo is alarming.

 

[plymkr]

Zeke is usually a no show vs good teams. He got paid to be elite. That imo is alarming.

I completely agree. I'd like to see a stat that showed the record of W's and L's when Zeke fumbles. I bet there is a strong correlation between Dak's 6-20 record against winning teams and Zeke fumbling in those 20 games. There were some games in this season that Zeke was a liability, almost as much of a liability as the defense. We can't fix the roster with Zeke eating up salary cap space and being a liability on the field. It's so frustrating.

I know people probably think I hate Dak, I honestly don't. I feel Zeke has been our worst signing and offensive player the last 2 years. When I say worst offensive player I'm talking the bang we get for our buck isn't there and his play and fumbles are killing us offensively. And you're right, he also does not show up in big games.

Actually the guys I feel are living up to their contracts are Martin, Cooper and DLaw. Yes I said Dlaw and Cooper. Lol, there was times in the year I was very hard on DLaw, and a couple times on Cooper. But Cooper draws the doubles and the other team's #1 CB and that frees up Lamb and Gallup. DLaw came on later in the year. Well as I type this I'm still a little lukewarm on Tank but he did play better at the end of the year. I still don't know if he's worth 20 million a season.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I completely agree. I'd like to see a stat that showed the record of W's and L's when Zeke fumbles. I bet there is a strong correlation between Dak's 6-20 record against winning teams and Zeke fumbling in those 20 games. There were some games in this season that Zeke was a liability, almost as much of a liability as the defense. We can't fix the roster with Zeke eating up salary cap space and being a liability on the field. It's so frustrating.

I know people probably think I hate Dak, I honestly don't. I feel Zeke has been our worst signing and offensive player the last 2 years. When I say worst offensive player I'm talking the bang we get for our buck isn't there and his play and fumbles are killing us offensively. And you're right, he also does not show up in big games.

Actually the guys I feel are living up to their contracts are Martin, Cooper and DLaw. Yes I said Dlaw and Cooper. Lol, there was times in the year I was very hard on DLaw, and a couple times on Cooper. But Cooper draws the doubles and the other team's #1 CB and that frees up Lamb and Gallup. DLaw came on later in the year. Well as I type this I'm still a little lukewarm on Tank but he did play better at the end of the year. I still don't know if he's worth 20 million a season.

The "Bookends" (Dak+Zeke) are looking to milk the star for their benefit and the rest is just gravy.
Jerry if you're listening cut this cancer out of the franchise ASAP!