Video: Fish: Cowboys + Dak agent idea of just 3 years? Biggest win of qb’s career

visionary

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Don't give me that crap!

One can support the QB without supporting what he is asking for financially. There is a difference.

Jerry simply needs to let Dak know that he can't and will not pay $40+ mil / year for Dak or any QB. If Dak reneges and refuses to accept that by the March 9th tag deadline, Jerry should put the "non-exclusive" franchise tag on Dak. Let Dak go get contract bid offers from up to 5 different teams in order to gage his actual paid worth, then Jerry can decide if he wants to match any super high offer or not. If not, Dak heads over to the highest bidder but they have to give up two 1st round picks in return as compensation to the Cowboys.

If this happens and Dak leaves, he and his little greedy brother are going to learn very quickly how big of a mistake they made and how good they actually had it in Dallas.

Dak is tied to a 40 million AAV contract for 3 years

this will hamstring the team and keep them “relevant” but mediocre

he doesn’t care because he will make his money
Put up his stats and then ignorant fans will once again want him to get paid

at this point I’m against signing him
This guy is a mediocre greedy player

unfortunately this organization is run by a buffoon and his son or there would be no question that we are moving on

NO ONE who is a Cowboys fan would ever support such a deal but fans on this site do
 

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Dak is tied to a 40 million AAV contract for 3 years

this will hamstring the team and keep them “relevant” but mediocre

he doesn’t care because he will make his money
Put up his stats and then ignorant fans will once again want him to get paid

at this point I’m against signing him
This guy is a mediocre greedy player

unfortunately this organization is run by a buffoon and his son or there would be no question that we are moving on

NO ONE who is a Cowboys fan would ever support such a deal but fans on this site do
Greedy, lol
 

America's Cowboy

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Dak is tied to a 40 million AAV contract for 3 years

this will hamstring the team and keep them “relevant” but mediocre

he doesn’t care because he will make his money
Put up his stats and then ignorant fans will once again want him to get paid

at this point I’m against signing him
This guy is a mediocre greedy player

unfortunately this organization is run by a buffoon and his son or there would be no question that we are moving on

NO ONE who is a Cowboys fan would ever support such a deal but fans on this site do
You're a sensitive fan. Plus, Dak is not average. You're right about how Dak should not get paid so much, but you're dead wrong to think he is just average.
 

JoeKing

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Jerry is going to let Dak walk and we'll have nothing to show for it other than whatever they win in 2021 and a comp pick. Better be a SB!
 

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That is the issue.
Wilson is going 2 or 3 and you don't get there from 10 without a crazy offer.
Probably looks something like 10, 44 and next years' 1st. --and the only reason that comes close is if they expect you to suck if you play a rookie QB next year.

You're pretty much spot on with that. I'm not sure how they handle future picks with the draft value chart. If they assume like you suggest, adding another 2nd should suffice. But if they apply the least amount of points per round since it is an unknown, then even that wouldn't be enough.
 

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anything over 37 to 38 is going to start being on the verge of cap cripiling unless his play comes up to top 3 level....which it might, but there are a lot of what if’s

Dallas smart move IF he still wants 40 plus is to tag him unfortunately and then go from there....sucks but tag and trade might end up netting the best return...I’d love to have dak but not at 40 mil

The only issue with that is Dak doesn't really have to accept a trade. No team is going to want Dak if he doesn't want to sign a long term deal with them. Then Dallas is stuck with him at 37.7 million for one year. Which is a waste.
 

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Dak is tied to a 40 million AAV contract for 3 years

this will hamstring the team and keep them “relevant” but mediocre

he doesn’t care because he will make his money
Put up his stats and then ignorant fans will once again want him to get paid

at this point I’m against signing him
This guy is a mediocre greedy player

unfortunately this organization is run by a buffoon and his son or there would be no question that we are moving on

NO ONE who is a Cowboys fan would ever support such a deal but fans on this site do

LOL a 3 year deal. Why? So he can soak them again after 3 years to be the highest possible cap hit? Jerry is borderline making a fool of himself if he does this. Tank and Zeke both played chicken with him and both won. Lets see if Jerry can lose hat trick.
 

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LOL a 3 year deal. Why? So he can soak them again after 3 years to be the highest possible cap hit? Jerry is borderline making a fool of himself if he does this. Tank and Zeke both played chicken with him and both won. Lets see if Jerry can lose hat trick.

He will because he’s an idiot
 

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On a more important note, Fish is quite literally the peanut gallery. Let's not lose sight of that.
 

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Just about everyone knows the Cowboys need to use ALL of their drat picks on defense yet you want to WASTE the top couple chasing after some college QB that hasn't played a down in the NFL and is no guarantee to be anywhere as good as Prescott. Stick to Madden football.
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KC chased after Mahomes even though he never played a down in the NFL.

And speaking of no guarantees, there's no guarentee those defensive draft picks you are talking about will be any good either.

We all know there will be some good defenders available from cap casualties. That's why I say draft a QB, save the money and build up the defense through free agency. That way you get defensive players with NFL experience.

Re-sign Andy Dalton, draft Zach Wilson and build a defense. Defense wins Championships. And if you don't believe defense wins Championships maybe you should stick to Madden football.
 

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DRAFT DEFENSE.
There will be four QB’s likely gone in the top five and Wilson will likely go #2

it would take #10 and a top ten pick in 2022. Probably a third on top of that

All for a guy who may or may not be a good NFL QB

what’s your plan b?
Wilson has done nothing against good competition. Find another name
HERE'S MY ANSWER...
KC chased after Mahomes even though he never played a down in the NFL.

And speaking of no guarantees, there's no guarentee those defensive draft picks you are talking about will be any good either.

We all know there will be some good defenders available from cap casualties. That's why I say draft a QB, save the money and build up the defense through free agency. That way you get defensive players with NFL experience.

Re-sign Andy Dalton, draft Zach Wilson and build a defense. Defense wins Championships. And if you don't believe defense wins Championships maybe you should stick to Madden football.
 

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The Cowboys are on the verge of becoming the biggest laughing stock in the NFL if the give into Prescotts demands.
They were a laughing stock before Dak got here lol. Have you seen what we’ve done the past 25 years or is that Daks fault too?
 

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Don't give me that crap!

One can support the QB without supporting what he is asking for financially. There is a difference.

Jerry simply needs to let Dak know that he can't and will not pay $40+ mil / year for Dak or any QB. If Dak reneges and refuses to accept that by the March 9th tag deadline, Jerry should put the "non-exclusive" franchise tag on Dak. Let Dak go get contract bid offers from up to 5 different teams in order to gage his actual paid worth, then Jerry can decide if he wants to match any super high offer or not. If not, Dak heads over to the highest bidder but they have to give up two 1st round picks in return as compensation to the Cowboys.

If this happens and Dak leaves, he and his little greedy brother are going to learn very quickly how big of a mistake they made and how good they actually had it in Dallas.
please please please for the love of all that is holy stop with the non-exclusive stuff.
as I've explained many times on this board it is completely meaningless and the worst possible option for Dallas.
they would literally be better off with no tag than non-exclusive.
 
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HERE'S MY ANSWER...
I am going to be very very clear.
No QB in this draft or 99% of any other draft is as good as Pat Mahomes.
Scouts are very flawed but it was clear Pat was a once in a lifetime talent at QB.
He was so much better than Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray to not be in the same universe.
He has Aaron Rodgers level arm talent and an off-field history that resembles Mother Teresa.
He played through injury and put up 500 yards a game passing.
He had natural arm ability based on touch and instinct that allows weird arm angle passes and left-hand throws because he grew up playing baseball and working those hot potato type skills.

Anyone that wants to take a shot from half court for a QB that's OK. It's rather nuts but OK. I'd personally be out on that 100%. And I mean like don't bother to watch Cowboys football out.
Dallas averaged over 32 PPG last year with Dak. They averaged just over 22 without him. That's an insane drop off.
And that was with arguably the most coveted NFL back up in football in place.

So no thanks on that nonsense plan.
 

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Dak is not taking less than 40 million
He and his agent are holding out for that

If he were signing for less he would be signed already

that is pretty much known

whenever you are making posts in support of Dak, that is what you are supporting

So on Twitter the other day I was in a Dak discussion and Tad Prescott asked me if I balked at Romo getting a huge contract. I said any QB breaking the bank isn’t good cap management, I also told him I thought his brother was a good guy and good leader but my issue was 40 million. His response was Dak never asked for 40 or to be the highest paid QB. I then asked him what the hold up was...years still?... and the conversation ended. He was pleasant snd nice enough. I don’t buy his response unless it’s underlying messsge is that France is the issue and root cause and Dak is just doing what he’s told. I’m with you though that it has to be an over 40 asking price.
 

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KC chased after Mahomes even though he never played a down in the NFL.

And speaking of no guarantees, there's no guarentee those defensive draft picks you are talking about will be any good either.

We all know there will be some good defenders available from cap casualties. That's why I say draft a QB, save the money and build up the defense through free agency. That way you get defensive players with NFL experience.

Re-sign Andy Dalton, draft Zach Wilson and build a defense. Defense wins Championships. And if you don't believe defense wins Championships maybe you should stick to Madden football.




You're preaching to the choir on the defense winning championships. Yes you used the best example with Mahomes so now I'll use the worst example on college QB's that were all hyped up as the next best thing since sliced bread that turned out as a bust. The very first pick in a draft was a QB named Jamarcus Russell by the raiders He never made it through his rookie contract and was already out of football.

Now the ravens are the only team to win a Super Bowl with a average or below average QB, Dilfer, but they had a record setting #1 defense. Now with signing Dalton and his zero for 5 record in wildcard games and also WASTING draft picks on a QB so the Cowboys can spend a reduced cap on cap casualties who's price may come down a little but not enough to be able to sign all the players needed to turn their defense into a top 10 defense because they wasted their top couple of picks on that QB. That reminds of a time when the WFT went out and bought all of the top defensive players they could one year hoping to turn their 16th ranked defense into a top 10 defense. They signed Bruce Smith and 3 other top tier defense free agents and that season their defense went from the 16th rank defense to the 18th ranked defense proving that going out an buying the best defenders doesn't always work. I would be all in on signing a defense free agent if the Cowboys were just one player away from having a top 10 defense but we both know that's not the case. Like I said, stick to Madden football.
 

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Let him walk, take the comp pick and pick up a street free agent. There is several that can do what he does.
 
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