News: PFT: Damontae Kazee moving on to visit Lions after Cowboys meeting

[OmerV]

Nah but it's not like the market is dripping with FS types that could be viewed as upgrades for us.

Hooker also visited, so it’s not like they are only looking at one possibility. Besides, reports are they are negotiating with Kazee anyway. Not having a contract agreed to on the day of the visit doesn’t mean a deal can’t be done, it may just mean they need time to work through instead of paying whatever the initial ask is.

 

[Sydla]

TB outside of Brady spent money on low and mid level FA so this notion that you have to go out and get top players at massive cost is false and Cowboys are not the only team who is looking for guys to fill gaps not build through FA. Why has Dallas not won a SB is years? many reasons for that. As for Johnson Other teams offered more than the 3 years 33 mill that Cleveland did but Johnson took Cleveland offer because that is where he wanted to go. Frankly not a big pool of players in FA at safety.

You still haven't answered the question. What has going cheap in FA and thinking the draft will solve all our roster issues gotten us? What has it won us? Again, I am totally willing to buy what the Cowboys (and you) are trying to sell us if you could point to tangible results that show our method of roster building makes total sense.

No one said anything about going out and just grabbing a bunch of top players. But selectively going after one, that you feel confident can fill a hole? Yeah, that makes more sense to me than spreading out money amongst a gaggle of low tiered, bargain type guys that aren't even a lock to make the roster.

As for Johnson, maybe if Dallas had been interested that might have been a destination he'd have liked as well? But we didn't even try based on most reports. We went straight for the bargain bin.

 

[Sydla]

Hooker also visited, so it’s not like they are only looking at one possibility. Besides, reports are they are negotiating with Kazee anyway. Not having a contract agreed to on the day of the visit doesn’t mean a deal can’t be done, it may just mean they need time to work through instead of paying whatever the initial ask is.

I tend to agree with you about the timing of the contract negotiations but the track record of this front office isn't the best and worthy of giving them the benefit of the doubt. And frankly, the fact they are looking at two guys coming off achilles injuries to solve our FS problem doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies either.

But at this point, they are the best of what's left.

 

[boysfanindc]

Agree here, neither Hooker or Kazee is going to change the fact that FS is going to be a priority in the draft.

 

[Doomsday101]

You still haven't answered the question. What has going cheap in FA and thinking the draft will solve all our roster issues gotten us? What has it won us? Again, I am totally willing to buy what the Cowboys (and you) are trying to sell us if you could point to tangible results that show our method of roster building makes total sense.

No one said anything about going out and just grabbing a bunch of top players. But selectively going after one, that you feel confident can fill a hole? Yeah, that makes more sense to me than spreading out money amongst a gaggle of low tiered, bargain type guys that aren't even a lock to make the roster.

As for Johnson, maybe if Dallas had been interested that might have been a destination he'd have liked as well? But we didn't even try based on most reports. We went straight for the bargain bin.

As I said there are ample reason of not winning a SB, but by and large Dallas has seen several seasons where the talent was there to win, which is why many NFL analyst have picked the Cowboys to be one of the favored teams to win it all over the last few years only to see this team under achieve yet when they look at the talent on this team many have said there is no reason they should not be able to win. This is not me as a fan making claims of the talent on this team it is those who cover the NFL and damn well know there is a lot of talent. Is there pro bowlers at every position? NO but there is talent here that can win and really it falls to McCarthy and this staff to get that done. I want a FS but frankly FS is not what has prevented this team from winning

 

[Sydla]

Agree here, neither Hooker or Kazee is going to change the fact that FS is going to be a priority in the draft.

Seeing is believing. I'll believe FS is a priority in the draft when they actually do something about it in the draft other than a late round pick throw at the position.

 

[LittleD]

Homework or not. I highly doubt you know what the guy is going to do. You arent a doctor nor an NFL GM. Nor the guy himself. Grow up. And then come back. The poster asked you a simple question. You dont have to be so condescending.

No one was talking to you little boy. Now get back down to your Mom's basement.

 

[boysfanindc]

Seeing is believing. I'll believe FS is a priority in the draft when they actually do something about it in the draft other than a late round pick throw at the position.

Guess you will have to wait then.

 

[phildadon86]

No one was talking to you little boy. Now get back down to your Mom's basement.

Lol. Right to the personal insults. I guess your name on here isn't just a nickname. Grow up.

 

[LittleD]

So your stance is Hooker will not play this year?

He might if his rehab comes around. Most likely will not do much in TC.

 

[OmerV]

I tend to agree with you about the timing of the contract negotiations but the track record of this front office isn't the best and worthy of giving them the benefit of the doubt. And frankly, the fact they are looking at two guys coming off achilles injuries to solve our FS problem doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies either.

But at this point, they are the best of what's left.

Trust me, I get the skepticism, both about how aggressive they are with free agency, and the fact they are looking at players recovering from injury. They seem to like taking a shot on guys like that hoping to get a quality player for cheap, but it seems more often than not those players never get all the way back to the level they once were.

 

[Sydla]

As I said there are ample reason of not winning a SB, but by and large Dallas has seen several seasons where the talent was there to win, which is why many NFL analyst have picked the Cowboys to be one of the favored teams to win it all over the last few years only to see this team under achieve yet when they look at the talent on this team many have said there is no reason they should not be able to win. This is not me as a fan making claims of the talent on this team it is those who cover the NFL and damn well know there is a lot of talent. Is there pro bowlers at every position? NO but there is talent here that can win and really it falls to McCarthy and this staff to get that done. I want a FS but frankly FS is not what has prevented this team from winning

The talent has largely been there on offense to win a SB but one big factor in almost every year was a defense that just wasn't talented enough to stop a good offense when the chips were down. Part of that was coaching, but part was talent issues, especially at DT and S.

The roster has largely been flawed each and every season since I can remember. And each offseason, right before it starts, the Jones boys acknowledge this was an issue or we need to get better there or this has to improve............. and then they go out and do the same thing over and over which is sign JAGs and bargain bin guys and the vast majority never really do anything and they go back and do the same thing the following year and year after that and year after that.

Their roster building strategy is flawed. The proof is in the results. You can't hang all our shortcomings just on coaching issues. They have had an imbalance and talent deficiency issue on D for years. And that's because they simply don't value FA at all and don't value certain positions at all.

 

[LittleD]

Lol. Right to the personal insults. I guess your name on here isn't just a nickname. Grow up.

If you can't respect your elders, respect your betters. Who made you the internet police? This is a forum for opinions, mine just as valid as yours, sonny

 

[boysfanindc]

He might if his rehab comes around. Most likely will not do much in TC.

Well I am confused now because earlier you said he likely has to retire.

 

[Carson]

Agree here, neither Hooker or Kazee is going to change the fact that FS is going to be a priority in the draft.

That’s what I love about this franchise. They will drag this out for weeks and into the draft only to sign nobody

 

[stiletto]

I'm just kind of glad Xavier Woods is no longer in the plans however it shakes out. LOL

 

[Carson]

I'm just kind of glad Xavier Woods is no longer in the plans however it shakes out. LOL

People don’t want to hear it. But I believe he will be the one they end up signing on a one year deal.

Kazee could end up in Detroit and hooker may not be ready

I don’t think I’ve ever soured on a player like I have Woods. I thought he was going to be a game changer at FS

 

[Doomsday101]

The talent has largely been there on offense to win a SB but one big factor in almost every year was a defense that just wasn't talented enough to stop a good offense when the chips were down. Part of that was coaching, but part was talent issues, especially at DT and S.

The roster has largely been flawed each and every season since I can remember. And each offseason, right before it starts, the Jones boys acknowledge this was an issue or we need to get better there or this has to improve............. and then they go out and do the same thing over and over which is sign JAGs and bargain bin guys and the vast majority never really do anything and they go back and do the same thing the following year and year after that and year after that.

Their roster building strategy is flawed. The proof is in the results. You can't hang all our shortcomings just on coaching issues. They have had an imbalance and talent deficiency issue on D for years. And that's because they simply don't value FA at all and don't value certain positions at all.

Biggest problem on defense has been changing the defense never staying with anything, jumping from a 4-3, to a 3-4 to a 4-3 to a hybrid. Really hard for personnel man to adjust to the changes to help bring in the talent to fit the scheme when that scheme is changing as quickly as we have. Right now more than FS I see the biggest needs at DT guy who can play run/Pass defense more than any position on this team currently.

 

[boysfanindc]

That’s what I love about this franchise. They will drag this out for weeks and into the draft only to sign nobody

The doctors know better than I, so if they do sign one of them they must believe they would be able to contribute, I just don't see how either one of them could be ready before October as Achilles injuries take a minimum of a year.

Maybe that is why they favor Kazee as he would not be learning a whole new system with no training camp.

It's hard to form concrete opinions when you do not know what the doctors think.

 

[phildadon86]

If you can't respect your elders, respect your betters. Who made you the internet police? This is a forum for opinions, mine just as valid as yours, sonny