Video: Fish: “Cowboys Talking to KJ Wright”

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"exploring KJ" sounds like a sequel to " exploring Reed." ..some kind of adult film trilogy. Awaiting the 3rd still lol...
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Oh so you totally don’t believe that the team has had any communication with him? Even though the guy is in direct contact with Wright you don’t believe him? I feel like at that point you just don’t want to believe it.

By the way, reporting that a team and player are communicating is some of the most routine insider coverage you can get. It’s such a mundane and standard thing to be in on, not hard for tenured insiders to know when a team talks to a player. Especially when “talking” could be literally nothing more than a basic preliminary exchange.
I believe. Just wanna see something happen now
 

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Oh so you totally don’t believe that the team has had any communication with him? Even though the guy is in direct contact with Wright you don’t believe him? I feel like at that point you just don’t want to believe it. I mean sheesh he even went into specifics on what they were discussing (contract length).

By the way, reporting that a team and player are communicating is some of the most routine insider coverage you can get. It’s such a mundane and standard thing to be in on, not hard for tenured insiders to know when a team talks to a player. Especially when “talking” could be literally nothing more than a basic preliminary exchange.

Apparently, you believe whatever you’re told. No questions asked.

Tell us also about that Jarran Reed interest that Fisher was also claiming?
 

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Apparently, you believe whatever you’re told. No questions asked.

Tell us also about that Jarran Reed interest that Fisher was also claiming?
You’re going out of your way to not believe it. Fisher has been in direct contact with Wright (proven by their interview and subsequent communication), multiple media outlets have reported the contact, and there are even details about what the talks are about.

How do you see all that and still say, “nah they haven’t even spoken to eachother in any way shape or form”. It’s not one obscure vague mention of both in a sentence, it’s a simple and again routine report about interest between a team and player. Nothing more nothing less.

And with the Reed thing, I really still do not get your gripe with that. Interest and communication do not mean deals. They literally mean interest and communication, nothing more. Reed signing elsewhere isn’t an indictment on Fisher saying they’ve communicated, it’s an indictment on the FO. Why do we get mad that insiders tell us when the team is in contact with people? Do you take that info and extrapolate that into “a deal is imminent”?

I’m just having a hard time understanding how something so run of the mill in the off-season is so angering. I get that the FO doesn’t make splashes in FA but that’s their fault, not the insiders for telling you inquiries have been made. Really have a hard time understanding the disdain at such simple news.

Communication and interest can be nothing more than a ‘hi and bye’ call to an agent. It’s up to you to manage your expectations on what “talking to someone” is, not the insiders. They just report to us when any conversation of any kind occurs.
 

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You’re going out of your way to not believe it. Fisher has been in direct contact with Wright (proven by their interview and subsequent communication), multiple media outlets have reported the contact, and there are even details about what the talks are about.

How do you see all that and still say, “nah they haven’t even spoken to eachother in any way shape or form”. It’s not one obscure vague mention of both in a sentence, it’s a simple and again routine report about interest between a team and player. Nothing more nothing less.

And with the Reed thing, I really still do not get your gripe with that. Interest and communication do not mean deals. They literally mean interest and communication, nothing more. Reed signing elsewhere isn’t an indictment on Fisher saying they’ve communicated, it’s an indictment on the FO. Why do we get mad that insiders tell us when the team is in contact with people? Do you take that info and extrapolate that into “a deal is imminent”?

I’m just having a hard time understanding how something so run of the mill in the off-season is so angering. I get that the FO doesn’t make splashes in FA but that’s their fault, not the insiders for telling you inquiries have been made. Really have a hard time understanding the disdain at such simple news.

Communication and interest can be nothing more than a ‘hi and bye’ call to an agent. It’s up to you to manage your expectations on what “talking to someone” is, not the insiders. They just report to us when any conversation of any kind occurs.

Tell me about these ‘multiple media outlets’ you’re referring to. I think you’re simply regurgitating people talking about Fisher’s initial claim and calling that ‘media reports’.

If you can show me other independent reports supporting Fisher, it would go a long way toward changing my mind.
 

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If the cowboys and kj Wright had talks and the cowboys disagreed with how many years he wanted and how much money he wanted and it didn’t go anywhere......fish can report they “talked” he can report there’s mutual interest.

doesn’t mean it’s close to happening or that there’s ongoing conversations at all. If Dallas calls team x and makes an offer for a player and that team laughs them off the line - you can report Dallas is interested in trading for said player but it doesn’t mean it’s actually close or they are an actual destination for them.

I believe there is interest but as many other things this offseason I think fish does embellish exactly how much interest and how close things are to happening and that’s his job to create clicks and interest but fish’s track record has been bad this offseason and recently
 

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Tell me about these ‘multiple media outlets’ you’re referring to. I think you’re simply regurgitating people talking about Fisher’s initial claim and calling that ‘media reports’.

If you can show me other independent reports supporting Fisher, it would go a long way toward changing my mind.
Why would they use Fish as their source if it’s hearsay? Regardless, this is such an elementary report. KJ Wright and the Cowboys being in communication isn’t big news, in fact it’s pretty routine news for free agency.

Not believing a deal will get done is a very rational and most likely the right take. But disputing that there’s been any contact whatsoever I feel like is just a woefully pessimistic view.

Sheesh you think he’s just making up talk about the amount of years? Making a baseless claim like that is Dak Attack territory, not team insider.
 

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Why would they use Fish as their source if it’s hearsay? Regardless, this is such an elementary report. KJ Wright and the Cowboys being in communication isn’t big news, in fact it’s pretty routine news for free agency.

Not believing a deal will get done is a very rational and most likely the right take. But disputing that there’s been any contact whatsoever I feel like is just a woefully pessimistic view.

Sheesh you think he’s just making up talk about the amount of years? Making a baseless claim like that is Dak Attack territory, not team insider.

So no other sources then?
 

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That's one long conversation. I wonder, is the conversation with members of the exploratory committee Dallas has in place or is it with Dan Quinn or with Barnum & Bailey themselves? Hmmmmm...I wonder.
 

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You need 7 insiders to tell you the FO spoke on the phone to Wright’s camp? Such a simple routine news tidbit lol

I need more than one guy's unsubstantiated claims. Unlike you who will apparently believe whatever someone tells you.

"Lol" indeed...

Keep wasting our time with this.
 

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I need more than one guy's unsubstantiated claims. Unlike you who will apparently believe whatever someone tells you.

"Lol" indeed...

Keep wasting our time with this.
Unsubstantiated yet he’s in direct contact with the player and is a tenured insider? Not getting it man sorry.

And no time is wasted because I don’t invest in signing a FA based on “communication”. I take it for face value like everyone should and just note that they’ve communicated. Nothing more nothing less, no extra time spent or wasted.

However, if I was spending every second trying to dig deeper for validity and hinging hopes on a signing I probably would be wasting my time.
 

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Unsubstantiated yet he’s in direct contact with the player and is a tenured insider? Not getting it man sorry.

Yeah, an "insider" who has yet to actually break any news in years. Some insider...

Again, what happened with Jarran Reed? Your "insider's" last false claim?

You go ahead and keep getting suckered, I'll apply skepticism where I feel it's warranted. As in a guy talking about something with no tangible evidence.

While I don't rule out the possibility that the team may in fact be talking to Wright, I'll also certainly consider theas likely possibility that there's nothing to this.


And no time is wasted because I don’t invest in signing a FA based on “communication”. I take it for face value like everyone should and just note that they’ve communicated. Nothing more nothing less, no extra time spent or wasted.

However, if I was spending every second trying to dig deeper for validity and hinging hopes on a signing I probably would be wasting my time.

You're wasting time continuing to dig up this thread.
 
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