How am I supposed to feel about this draft?

[Maverick84]

I was surprised we got Cox where we did.

this is a family forum.

 

[darthseinfeld]

My daughter got married this weekend and as a result, I didn’t see much of the draft. I caught the first round and that is about it.

I see several different schools of thought going on here, which are lumped into a few categories:

1. The Cheerleaders. Every pick was wonderful. Home Run.

Me:
That’s doubtful, but OK

2. The Cowboys suck. Jerry never does anything right. I have never heard of any of these guys. They must suck because I haven’t heard of them.

Me: You didn’t know about any NFL players at some point in time.

Also me:

On the other hand it IS frustrating as hell when the Cowboys pick a no name player over a guy everyone has heard of and expects to be a hit, and later on the no name gets cut, while the named player does what we expected him to do—succeed.

3. I love the fact that we addressed defense with almost every pick, our defense sucked last year.

Me: Hmm. What are the odds that a defender was the best player available at each of the first seven picks. Not likely. I smell reach.

4. The Cowboys draft totally sucks.

Me: Shouldn’t we at least wait to see what comes from this draft class before we declare it a bust?

5. I LOVE THE PARSONS PICK.

Me: Slater WAS on the board. He was also highly ranked. The talking heads and most people on the board had him rated higher. CW sucks. What happens when CW yells “Ole’” and Dak is out the rest of the year. Can Parsons play T or G?



I’m partly poking fun here. I knew that this year the ratings of the players would be more diverse than ever because of the opt outs and the limited playing time some players had. But it doesn’t make me feel any better that most of the players we picked in 2-4 screamed reach.

I guess its a wait and see game, as it always is, but I feel pretty uneasy about the 3rd round picks especially. We passed on what seem like really good players to draft some people I haven’t heard much about. I hope the Cowboys know a lot more than I am worried that they know.

If we had more talent on defense, Parsons V. Slater would be a tossup for me. I just dont know if Slater is ever my LT. An LB Vs. a non LT OL is a debate. However, with as bad as the defense is and the fact that our LB is about to be nuked next year I think they went in the right direction.

 

[ICP]

Go with 'Numb', that's always a safe one when it comes to the Cowboys

 

[john van brocklin]

My daughter got married this weekend and as a result, I didn’t see much of the draft. I caught the first round and that is about it.

I see several different schools of thought going on here, which are lumped into a few categories:

1. The Cheerleaders. Every pick was wonderful. Home Run.

Me:
That’s doubtful, but OK

2. The Cowboys suck. Jerry never does anything right. I have never heard of any of these guys. They must suck because I haven’t heard of them.

Me: You didn’t know about any NFL players at some point in time.

Also me:

On the other hand it IS frustrating as hell when the Cowboys pick a no name player over a guy everyone has heard of and expects to be a hit, and later on the no name gets cut, while the named player does what we expected him to do—succeed.

3. I love the fact that we addressed defense with almost every pick, our defense sucked last year.

Me: Hmm. What are the odds that a defender was the best player available at each of the first seven picks. Not likely. I smell reach.

4. The Cowboys draft totally sucks.

Me: Shouldn’t we at least wait to see what comes from this draft class before we declare it a bust?

5. I LOVE THE PARSONS PICK.

Me: Slater WAS on the board. He was also highly ranked. The talking heads and most people on the board had him rated higher. CW sucks. What happens when CW yells “Ole’” and Dak is out the rest of the year. Can Parsons play T or G?



I’m partly poking fun here. I knew that this year the ratings of the players would be more diverse than ever because of the opt outs and the limited playing time some players had. But it doesn’t make me feel any better that most of the players we picked in 2-4 screamed reach.

I guess its a wait and see game, as it always is, but I feel pretty uneasy about the 3rd round picks especially. We passed on what seem like really good players to draft some people I haven’t heard much about. I hope the Cowboys know a lot more than I am worried that they know.

The Cowboys have not earned the benefit of the doubt in my mind except with there overall quality of the drafts
So I am optimistic

 

[Ranching]

What is your opinion of the 3rd round picks?

I hope they see something that I missed.

 

[Ranching]

this is a family forum.

Lol!! I literally laughed out loud!! Good job!

 

[ThreeandOut]

I think there was a method to the madness. The defense has been soft, for the most part; not just bad... soft. Lots of "aw shucks, pa" Opie Taylors out there.

Micah Parsons and Bossman Fat are not soft players. Same can be said for the 3rd round guys. They picked some big hitters and edgier personalities.

That is a gamble. But the Sean Lees of the world are rare. Many edgy players also tend to be edgy people -- guys with a chip on their shoulder.

The Cowboys want to get faster, for sure. But they also want to be an edgier, nastier defense. They picked some guys with a little attitude.

Good point. Makes me think is they had a choice between Horn and Surtain in round 1, they would have taken Horn.

 

[Big_D]

The D got better. That was the goal.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Every four years or so Dallas lucks into a good draft class and we all high five that Jerry and Stephen have finally figured it out. The next three are filled with head scratching picks that turn into disappointments or unspectacular one contract players.

This draft would be in the later category.

None of the four address glaring holes at safety and 1 tech with top tier talent because why would a team want 11 solid positions when you can have nine.

 

[Verdict]

I hope they see something that I missed.

I was expecting to see at least one of those round picks filled by a name I ha heard quite a bit about before draft day.

 

[CowboyoWales]

The draft is about finding players to make your team better. Every pick isn't going to be a All Pro. But what I will say is the Cowboys had a plan. Whether we like that plan I don't know but they had one and they had a type of player they wanted.

Its the draft I wanted. I didn't want any offensive players I would've took all defense. They took the majority defense and that's all you can ask for.

They came out of this draft with at least one elite prospect in Parsons. Potentially came out of this defense with 2 starters and a few rotational guys. That's all you can ask for at this time and if I factor in what they did last year..in this 2 year rebuild of the defense....they've done well. Much better than you can expect in such a short period of time.

Spot on. For once we drafted sensibly and to improve the elements of the team that we're lacking.

Some fans are too set on looking at individuals and not looking at improving aspects of their game. We've moved on from looking for the all-round Jack-of-all-trades players in the latter rounds and drafted players who have specific talents that may play in the NFL. An example is Moehrig, yes he's the name, yes he's possibly BPA, yes he plays a position of need....however his talents and worth is as based more on his SS in the slot abilities which with Neal and Wilson we dont need. I do like the ability not to get so hung up on names.

We came out with immediate improvements on: run defense, pass rush, slot cover. The secondary may take time, however, as we know CB is one of the positions that takes time due to the technical refinements.....and if Bossman can perform, i dont care what he does in his rapping life.

 

[JoeKing]

It was like a whirlwind that picked us up for a ride and then set us down in new territory. Now we just have to get our bearings and figure out where we are now. Are we better off now?

 

[Flamma]

I’m partly poking fun here. I knew that this year the ratings of the players would be more diverse than ever because of the opt outs and the limited playing time some players had. But it doesn’t make me feel any better that most of the players we picked in 2-4 screamed reach.

I guess its a wait and see game, as it always is, but I feel pretty uneasy about the 3rd round picks especially. We passed on what seem like really good players to draft some people I haven’t heard much about. I hope the Cowboys know a lot more than I am worried that they know.

You said it all right here. This draft was going to be tough for the reasons you put forth. We had 5 picks in the first 3 rounds. According to my board 3 of the picks weren't in the top 100. I thought that odd. Not the usual thing they do. But considering the circumstances I'm going to assume they know what they're doing.

The main thing I didn't like was their complete refusal to trade up when Dallas had 11 picks to work with. A lot of teams did this to get top prospects. The Cowboys just sat there. It was almost as if they were avoiding them.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I hope they see something that I missed.

They seem to have looked at specific talents, rather than the overall player value. Players that will be able to give us different looks in different limited scenarios. We are now better positioned to play 3-4 v run (Odighizuwa, and eventually Bohanna as rotational) and we have various pass rushing options depending on the O-Line we face, at last we have power rushers, flying DE's and a threat to rush at LB.....even Golston provides out and out versatiliy.

Yep there are headscratchers (Wright) but all in all it was what we needed and heavily influenced by Quinn.

 

[CowboyoWales]

You said it all right here. This draft was going to be tough for the reasons you put forth. We had 5 picks in the first 3 rounds. According to my board 3 of the picks weren't in the top 100. I thought that odd. Not the usual thing they do. But considering the circumstances I'm going to assume they know what they're doing.

The main thing I didn't like was their complete refusal to trade up when Dallas had 11 picks to work with. A lot of teams did this to get top prospects. The Cowboys just sat there. It was almost as if they were avoiding them.

Who would you have traded up for?

 

[Flamma]

Who would you have traded up for?

Defensive tackles Barmore or McNeill. Safeties Moehrig or Holland. Just to name a few.

 

[Stash]

My daughter got married this weekend and as a result, I didn’t see much of the draft. I caught the first round and that is about it.

I see several different schools of thought going on here, which are lumped into a few categories:

1. The Cheerleaders. Every pick was wonderful. Home Run.

Me:
That’s doubtful, but OK

2. The Cowboys suck. Jerry never does anything right. I have never heard of any of these guys. They must suck because I haven’t heard of them.

Me: You didn’t know about any NFL players at some point in time.

Also me:

On the other hand it IS frustrating as hell when the Cowboys pick a no name player over a guy everyone has heard of and expects to be a hit, and later on the no name gets cut, while the named player does what we expected him to do—succeed.

3. I love the fact that we addressed defense with almost every pick, our defense sucked last year.

Me: Hmm. What are the odds that a defender was the best player available at each of the first seven picks. Not likely. I smell reach.

4. The Cowboys draft totally sucks.

Me: Shouldn’t we at least wait to see what comes from this draft class before we declare it a bust?

5. I LOVE THE PARSONS PICK.

Me: Slater WAS on the board. He was also highly ranked. The talking heads and most people on the board had him rated higher. CW sucks. What happens when CW yells “Ole’” and Dak is out the rest of the year. Can Parsons play T or G?



I’m partly poking fun here. I knew that this year the ratings of the players would be more diverse than ever because of the opt outs and the limited playing time some players had. But it doesn’t make me feel any better that most of the players we picked in 2-4 screamed reach.

I guess its a wait and see game, as it always is, but I feel pretty uneasy about the 3rd round picks especially. We passed on what seem like really good players to draft some people I haven’t heard much about. I hope the Cowboys know a lot more than I am worried that they know.

Nice post. Your feelings very much align with mine.

 

[fivetwos]

My daughter got married this weekend and as a result, I didn’t see much of the draft. I caught the first round and that is about it.

I see several different schools of thought going on here, which are lumped into a few categories:

1. The Cheerleaders. Every pick was wonderful. Home Run.

Me:
That’s doubtful, but OK

2. The Cowboys suck. Jerry never does anything right. I have never heard of any of these guys. They must suck because I haven’t heard of them.

Me: You didn’t know about any NFL players at some point in time.

Also me:

On the other hand it IS frustrating as hell when the Cowboys pick a no name player over a guy everyone has heard of and expects to be a hit, and later on the no name gets cut, while the named player does what we expected him to do—succeed.

3. I love the fact that we addressed defense with almost every pick, our defense sucked last year.

Me: Hmm. What are the odds that a defender was the best player available at each of the first seven picks. Not likely. I smell reach.

4. The Cowboys draft totally sucks.

Me: Shouldn’t we at least wait to see what comes from this draft class before we declare it a bust?

5. I LOVE THE PARSONS PICK.

Me: Slater WAS on the board. He was also highly ranked. The talking heads and most people on the board had him rated higher. CW sucks. What happens when CW yells “Ole’” and Dak is out the rest of the year. Can Parsons play T or G?



I’m partly poking fun here. I knew that this year the ratings of the players would be more diverse than ever because of the opt outs and the limited playing time some players had. But it doesn’t make me feel any better that most of the players we picked in 2-4 screamed reach.

I guess its a wait and see game, as it always is, but I feel pretty uneasy about the 3rd round picks especially. We passed on what seem like really good players to draft some people I haven’t heard much about. I hope the Cowboys know a lot more than I am worried that they know.

Congrats.

The Wright pick kinda brought me back to the Campo years, when Jerry had his drunk old buddies making the board.

Complete project at best. I've seen the movie.

This guy will not be helping the team. I suppose the viewed it as a "free pick" since it was a comp and treated it accordingly.

If nothing else maybe that will calm the comp pick freaks around here if that's what they are going to do with them.

 

[cowboyec]

hopeful.

 

[ESisback]

My daughter got married this weekend and as a result, I didn’t see much of the draft. I caught the first round and that is about it.

I see several different schools of thought going on here, which are lumped into a few categories:

1. The Cheerleaders. Every pick was wonderful. Home Run.

Me:
That’s doubtful, but OK

2. The Cowboys suck. Jerry never does anything right. I have never heard of any of these guys. They must suck because I haven’t heard of them.

Me: You didn’t know about any NFL players at some point in time.

Also me:

On the other hand it IS frustrating as hell when the Cowboys pick a no name player over a guy everyone has heard of and expects to be a hit, and later on the no name gets cut, while the named player does what we expected him to do—succeed.

3. I love the fact that we addressed defense with almost every pick, our defense sucked last year.

Me: Hmm. What are the odds that a defender was the best player available at each of the first seven picks. Not likely. I smell reach.

4. The Cowboys draft totally sucks.

Me: Shouldn’t we at least wait to see what comes from this draft class before we declare it a bust?

5. I LOVE THE PARSONS PICK.

Me: Slater WAS on the board. He was also highly ranked. The talking heads and most people on the board had him rated higher. CW sucks. What happens when CW yells “Ole’” and Dak is out the rest of the year. Can Parsons play T or G?



I’m partly poking fun here. I knew that this year the ratings of the players would be more diverse than ever because of the opt outs and the limited playing time some players had. But it doesn’t make me feel any better that most of the players we picked in 2-4 screamed reach.

I guess its a wait and see game, as it always is, but I feel pretty uneasy about the 3rd round picks especially. We passed on what seem like really good players to draft some people I haven’t heard much about. I hope the Cowboys know a lot more than I am worried that they know.

Good post! I’m like you—mostly positive, but with some reservations. Hey, MAYBE they’ll replace CW with McGovern!