Give Me Your Draft Redo

nathanlt

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So the Cowboys got Cox in the 4th round and Marvin Wilson went undrafted but you would’ve taken them earlier than they went? Huh?

Hey, that's being honest. I would have drafted Marvin Wilson in the second, I thought he was very good. Must be some injury issue that most don't know about. If Wilson would have opted out last year, he would have been drafted very high, 2nd or 3rd probably.

So disappointed Dallas didn't get him in FA.
 

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So the Cowboys got Cox in the 4th round and Marvin Wilson went undrafted but you would’ve taken them earlier than they went? Huh?
If I get a redo that means I know all the picks and where they were picked
Knowing all that it seems logical to me that if I wanted a player that wasn’t drafted I’d take him with my last pick
But that’s just me
 

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I’ll only do first 4 rounds

1. Parsons
2. Traded up for Holland/Grant/Moehrig with our last rd 3 pick
3a: McNeil. Traded up with our last rd 4 pick
3b: Adebo
4. Perkins
I definitely agree with moving up in the second to finally address the safety situation. This was probably the least exciting draft for the Cowboys since 2009. That one pick used for a safety would have totally changed my view of this draft. As it stands, the most talented draft picks have big character concerns that are likely to continue in their pro careers which will lead to a lot of suspensions from Goodell. I had much rather Dallas use some of the picks to move up and draft better players. I think that most of the players drafted will not be on the roster three years from now.
 

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If I get a redo that means I know all the picks and where they were picked
Knowing all that it seems logical to me that if I wanted a player that wasn’t drafted I’d take him with my last pick
But that’s just me
I mean that's fine but the 4th round ain't the last pick lol. Doesn't make sense you know all the picks and where they were picked so you'd take Wilson in the 4th round knowing he wasn't drafted?
 

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I definitely agree with moving up in the second to finally address the safety situation. This was probably the least exciting draft for the Cowboys since 2009. That one pick used for a safety would have totally changed my view of this draft. As it stands, the most talented draft picks have big character concerns that are likely to continue in their pro careers which will lead to a lot of suspensions from Goodell. I had much rather Dallas use some of the picks to move up and draft better players. I think that most of the players drafted will not be on the roster three years from now.
What safety were you coveting because any safety taken in that 2nd round of this draft not only was not gonna start but quite frankly I'd still be looking to upgrade the position in next years draft.
 

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Hey, that's being honest. I would have drafted Marvin Wilson in the second, I thought he was very good. Must be some injury issue that most don't know about. If Wilson would have opted out last year, he would have been drafted very high, 2nd or 3rd probably.

So disappointed Dallas didn't get him in FA.

So this is what confuses me about the draft process every year.....this happened with La'El Collins too.

You have guys like this who fall....to the point they are out of the draft....then when they are out of the draft they get signed to these nice sized contracts and have a "bidding war" to sign them. Why didn't you spend a 7th rounder on this guy if you loved him so much to go into a bidding war? I think with Collins it may have been different since there was a fear he may re-enter the draft but I just never understand it.
 

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The concept of a "draft redo" seems profound to me. In a "redo" are we drafting with the benefit of knowing how the original draft went? OR are we going back in time to redo the draft? It seems just going back in time would just get us the same results. So, if we are drafting with the benefit of knowing how the original draft went, it means everyone else drafting has this same beneficial knowledge. In that scenario, there is still no guarantee you get the players you want because you have others drafting ahead of you refiguring their picks too. A definitive list of preferred draft picks is impossible for that reason.
 

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I mean that's fine but the 4th round ain't the last pick lol. Doesn't make sense you know all the picks and where they were picked so you'd take Wilson in the 4th round knowing he wasn't drafted?
The last pick is the 7th round
 

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So this is what confuses me about the draft process every year.....this happened with La'El Collins too.

You have guys like this who fall....to the point they are out of the draft....then when they are out of the draft they get signed to these nice sized contracts and have a "bidding war" to sign them. Why didn't you spend a 7th rounder on this guy if you loved him so much to go into a bidding war? I think with Collins it may have been different since there was a fear he may re-enter the draft but I just never understand it.

Right, good points...
 

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Do you ever find yourself dreaming about girls you didn't marry?

I don't see that as necessarily bad. However, I don't think dreaming is the right word in this case. I often look back at the decisions I made and wonder if there were better choices and how it would have turned out.

I definitely should have taken that other job when I graduated from college.

All drafts and FA choices get graded with an eye on hindsight. The nature of the beast.
 

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Only issue I had with the draft was the Nashon pick. But with the advantage of knowing how the picks went it would look like this.
12th - Parsons- wouldn’t change, most likely to have the biggest impact of anyone left on the board.
34th - Holland - trade with the Jets 44 & 99 - Starting free safety (Finally)
75th - Adebo - think sitting out really hurt his value - fits the profile for Quinn
84th - Odighizuwa - not sure he would be available- but this is all fictional anyway.
115th - Cox - why change this
138th - Smith - don’t know if he is better then Ball but I have a daughter
179th - Fehoko - love the pick - hopefully he can be the 3rd wr once Gallup leaves
192nd - Bohanna - need the trash can
227th - Mukuamu - need depth
238th - Bradley-King - replace the Golston pick
 

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Look at all yall. Redoing the draft and picking some short arm bustas instead.
 

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Give me your true redraft without trades. FYI I woulda traded up for Barmore and Holland but if I had to stay pat this wouldve been mine and it's HONEST.

1. Micah Parsons LB
2. Azeez Ojulari DE
3. Paulson Adebo CB
3. Wyatt Davis G
3. Jabril Cox LB
4. Jaleon Darden WR/RT
4. Marvin Wilson DT
5. Ben Mason FB
6. Deonte Brown G
6. Israel Mukuamu DB
7. James Wiggins S

1. Slater T
2. Trade one of our 4th to move up few spots for Moehrig FS
3. Adebo CB
3. Odigizuwa DT
3. Cox LB
4. Ghoston DE

Got a starting G/T, starting FS, starting CB
Rotational LB, DT and DE.

6 immediate contributors in year 1.
 

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We have to assume no trades other than the trade the Cowboys made with the Eagles or this doesn't work. How can I say for example, I would have taken the Chicago deal without knowing if that deal or any other deal was available. Or, what about trading up in round 3 to take McNeill or Milton Williams? Was that deal available? Also, we now know how the draft played our so we know which players dropped into the later rounds. That's cheating. So just looking at the board where the Cowboys were drafting here is how I might have done it.

12. Slater OL - but I would have tried like heck to trade down. I think Slater helps the OL more than Parsons helps the defense. It is a close call but I would put Slater in at LG for now and if Collins' hip is a problem he can play right tackle.
44. Joseph CB - Over Asante Samuel because of size and speed.
75. Surratt, Chazz LB - Best rated DP on the board at that point IMO and too soon to take offense.
84. Odighizuwa DT if he was available at 84. If not then I might have jumped at Cox in this position.
99. Melifonwu CB - With the OL problem address I keep going defense. CB depth is important too. I might take Ambry here because of his speed over Melifonwu.
115. Jabril Cox LB -have to take him here. Best value.
138. Tyree Gillespie S - Not the biggest safety but he has a lot of speed and I like a lot of speed in the secondary. I want QBs to worry about the range of my DBs when they throw downfield.
179. Simi Fehoko WR - I watched his pro-day I I was thoroughly impressed. I wanted this guy and he is available at 179.
192. Jaylen Twyman DT - He had an excellent 2019 season if I am not mistaken. Plus, I like really strong guys in the middle of the line - on both sides of the ball. This guy did 40 reps of the bench press which tells me he has great upper body strength and is stronger than most OGs and Cs. I hate hearing "this guy or that guy needs to get stronger in the offseason.
226. Tonga, Khyiris DT - Another big strong DT. He is redundant with Twyman but he is also a late 7th round pick. I am hoping one of them works out. If both do then I have two guys I sub in on short yardage downs to absolutely stuff the middle while my LBs get a clean shot at the ball carrier.

I am being honest here based on the board and not knowing the Cowboys plans for revamping the defense. These are not the guys I wanted necessarily. Most of the guys I wanted went a pick or two before the Cowboys drafted like Surtain, Moehrig, McNeill/Williams, and so on. I loved Anthony Schwartz going into the draft and thought I would select him at 115. When he was picked at 91, I was a little surprised, but it happens every draft. Then Derrick Barnes went at 113, another one of my favorites, which was a little early for him. Tommy Togiai went at 131, and Jacoby Stevens at 224.

Given the Cowboys apparent plans to change the way they play defense, I think they did a pretty good job drafting where they were. Perhaps they could have been a bit more aggressive moving up for certain players, but when revamping a defense perhaps volume is more important that quality.
 

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why do redraft now..ask that in 3 years when we let the actual picks succeed or fail..this place already had fits and stated who they would have drafted over what the real football people did..been discussed the minute the picks were made..

So in 3 years we will see if the picks we took were mistakes and IF a big if those passed on were better..this was very premature..

remineder,

you are fan and not fo draft expert, nfl coach, or scout..so your list is one in hindsight knowing how the alternate picks fell not in real time with an actual board like again real football people used to draft..
Lol why? You know what your right. Shouldn’t question anything or look in other directions. Just go with everything like the masks. Mods please end thread and ask that nobody post any threads unless Jerry approved.
 

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why? because its a fact

some tool of fan wants to do a mock redraft with hindsight an full knowledge how the draft already fell..lmao..

as if it means squat,,you are not art of the nfl and for sure not an expert. What madden and fantasy football gives you cred?

also fact we wont know how the draft truly should be graded for 1-3 seasons, does these facts hurt your head? do i need to use smaller words,,?:thumbup::rolleyes:
 

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We have to assume no trades other than the trade the Cowboys made with the Eagles or this doesn't work. How can I say for example, I would have taken the Chicago deal without knowing if that deal or any other deal was available. Or, what about trading up in round 3 to take McNeill or Milton Williams? Was that deal available? Also, we now know how the draft played our so we know which players dropped into the later rounds. That's cheating. So just looking at the board where the Cowboys were drafting here is how I might have done it.

12. Slater OL - but I would have tried like heck to trade down. I think Slater helps the OL more than Parsons helps the defense. It is a close call but I would put Slater in at LG for now and if Collins' hip is a problem he can play right tackle.
44. Joseph CB - Over Asante Samuel because of size and speed.
75. Surratt, Chazz LB - Best rated DP on the board at that point IMO and too soon to take offense.
84. Odighizuwa DT if he was available at 84. If not then I might have jumped at Cox in this position.
99. Melifonwu CB - With the OL problem address I keep going defense. CB depth is important too. I might take Ambry here because of his speed over Melifonwu.
115. Jabril Cox LB -have to take him here. Best value.
138. Tyree Gillespie S - Not the biggest safety but he has a lot of speed and I like a lot of speed in the secondary. I want QBs to worry about the range of my DBs when they throw downfield.
179. Simi Fehoko WR - I watched his pro-day I I was thoroughly impressed. I wanted this guy and he is available at 179.
192. Jaylen Twyman DT - He had an excellent 2019 season if I am not mistaken. Plus, I like really strong guys in the middle of the line - on both sides of the ball. This guy did 40 reps of the bench press which tells me he has great upper body strength and is stronger than most OGs and Cs. I hate hearing "this guy or that guy needs to get stronger in the offseason.
226. Tonga, Khyiris DT - Another big strong DT. He is redundant with Twyman but he is also a late 7th round pick. I am hoping one of them works out. If both do then I have two guys I sub in on short yardage downs to absolutely stuff the middle while my LBs get a clean shot at the ball carrier.

I am being honest here based on the board and not knowing the Cowboys plans for revamping the defense. These are not the guys I wanted necessarily. Most of the guys I wanted went a pick or two before the Cowboys drafted like Surtain, Moehrig, McNeill/Williams, and so on. I loved Anthony Schwartz going into the draft and thought I would select him at 115. When he was picked at 91, I was a little surprised, but it happens every draft. Then Derrick Barnes went at 113, another one of my favorites, which was a little early for him. Tommy Togiai went at 131, and Jacoby Stevens at 224.

Given the Cowboys apparent plans to change the way they play defense, I think they did a pretty good job drafting where they were. Perhaps they could have been a bit more aggressive moving up for certain players, but when revamping a defense perhaps volume is more important that quality.

you cant be honest you already knew the draft exactly how it went down and what the DC already did..your subconscious says you used that information as hindsight and therefore this is moot list.

hope you all are being thoroughly entertained at fake post draft redrafts after 45 days of mock drafts and the real draft already happened..

let me knw how your fantasy team does ill be watching the real payers we drafted this season..:lmao:
 

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What safety were you coveting because any safety taken in that 2nd round of this draft not only was not gonna start but quite frankly I'd still be looking to upgrade the position in next years draft.
I didn’t have a favorite in this draft. I really didn’t have a pet cat at any position in the draft. The safeties that were available in the second round would have been an upgrade over the jags on the present roster, which will be lucky to stay on the team for 2-3 years. I have serious doubt that the Cowboys will invest in the position in next year’s draft . They have not drafted a safety with a high pick since Roy Williams and the safety position has been a problem ever since. You may have not liked the safety prospects in this draft, but the top 2 or 3 safeties were better than any safety that has been on the team in years. They certainly were better prospects than the CB with great physical talent which has been overshadowed by major character concerns his entire time as a player.
 

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I didn’t have a favorite in this draft. I really didn’t have a pet cat at any position in the draft. The safeties that were available in the second round would have been an upgrade over the jags on the present roster, which will be lucky to stay on the team for 2-3 years. I have serious doubt that the Cowboys will invest in the position in next year’s draft . They have not drafted a safety with a high pick since Roy Williams and the safety position has been a problem ever since. You may have not liked the safety prospects in this draft, but the top 2 or 3 safeties were better than any safety that has been on the team in years. They certainly were better prospects than the CB with great physical talent which has been overshadowed by major character concerns his entire time as a player.

Contrary to popular belief the only reason Kazee was probably even available was because of injury. He doesn't have a career of a jag. If Moehrig has the career Kazee has that would be considered a very good pick. Kazee can at least say he lead the league in interceptions...

I'm not saying I would've had a issue with Moehrig because I wouldn't have. But I also understand he wasn't good enough to start here.
 

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12. Micah Parsons - LB Penn State
44. Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah - SS Notre Dame
75. Paulson Adebo - CB Stanford
84. Jay Tufele - DT USC
99. Ifeatu Melifonwu - CB Syracuse
115. Jabril Cox - LB LSU
138. Jaylon Moore - OT Western Michigan
179. Simi Fehoko - WR Stanford
192. Quinton Bohanna - NT Kentucky
227. Israel Mukuama - CB/S South Carolina

238. James Wiggins - FS Cincinnati
 
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