Kelvin Joseph vs Mike Jenkins

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They seem very similar as prospects. I think Joseph's career will unfortunately be similar. What are the key differences if any?
 

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There are a lot of players with similar measurables. Some know how to use what they have, others do not.

That's one of the things that makes it difficult to make the right pick. You can have a player with great measurables who just can't play the game and a player with terrible measurables who understands what he needs to do to maximize what he's got.
 

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Joseph is taller than Jenkins. Joseph is faster than Jenkins. Joseph can jump high than Jenkins. Joseph can change directions quicker than Jenkins. But yeah, they are similar prospects...even though they are two completely different people. Sigh!
 

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Joseph is taller than Jenkins. Joseph is faster than Jenkins. Joseph can jump high than Jenkins. Joseph can change directions quicker than Jenkins. But yeah, they are similar prospects...even though they are two completely different people. Sigh!

Jenkins:
Height: 70.25 inches
Weight: 197 pounds
BMI: 28.74
Arm Length: 32.13 inches
Hand Size: 9.25 inches

40 Yard Dash: 4.43 seconds
40 Yard (MPH): 18.47 (MPH)
20 Yard Split: 2.56 seconds
10 Yard Split: 1.50 seconds
Bench Press: 18 reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 34.0 inches
Broad Jump: 117 inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.40 seconds
Three Cone: 7.21 seconds

Joseph (pro day results so not 100% official):

40 Yard Dash: 4.35 seconds
40 Yard (MPH): 18.81 (MPH)
20 Yard Split: 2.48 seconds
10 Yard Split: 1.44 seconds
Bench Press: (N/A) reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 35.0 inches
Height: 71.5 inches
Weight: 197 lbs
Broad Jump: 128 inches
Hand Size: 9.25 inches
Arm Length: 31.88 inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.23 seconds
Three Cone: 7.21 seconds

Their numbers seem similar. Pro Day results are usually more favorable compared to official combine results
 

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Joesph is a faster, more explosive athlete. I know those numbers look similar but that tenth of a second in the forty translates into a few yards on the football field. The only comparison is the team that drafted them. If Joseph wasn't pursuing a career in the music industry, he would have gone higher. Teams were unsure of his commitment to football.
 

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Jenkins:
Height: 70.25 inches
Weight: 197 pounds
BMI: 28.74
Arm Length: 32.13 inches
Hand Size: 9.25 inches

40 Yard Dash: 4.43 seconds
40 Yard (MPH): 18.47 (MPH)
20 Yard Split: 2.56 seconds
10 Yard Split: 1.50 seconds
Bench Press: 18 reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 34.0 inches
Broad Jump: 117 inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.40 seconds
Three Cone: 7.21 seconds

Joseph (pro day results so not 100% official):

40 Yard Dash: 4.35 seconds
40 Yard (MPH): 18.81 (MPH)
20 Yard Split: 2.48 seconds
10 Yard Split: 1.44 seconds
Bench Press: (N/A) reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 35.0 inches
Height: 71.5 inches
Weight: 197 lbs
Broad Jump: 128 inches
Hand Size: 9.25 inches
Arm Length: 31.88 inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.23 seconds
Three Cone: 7.21 seconds

Their numbers seem similar. Pro Day results are usually more favorable compared to official combine results


Measurables are similar. But idk. I see more natural fluidity in Joseph.

all that being said. Mike Jenkins started his career out pretty strongly. But eventually it fell apart for various reasons. Injuries, etc.

We shall see.
 

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Jenkins:
Height: 70.25 inches
Weight: 197 pounds
BMI: 28.74
Arm Length: 32.13 inches
Hand Size: 9.25 inches

40 Yard Dash: 4.43 seconds
40 Yard (MPH): 18.47 (MPH)
20 Yard Split: 2.56 seconds
10 Yard Split: 1.50 seconds
Bench Press: 18 reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 34.0 inches
Broad Jump: 117 inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.40 seconds
Three Cone: 7.21 seconds

Joseph (pro day results so not 100% official):

40 Yard Dash: 4.35 seconds
40 Yard (MPH): 18.81 (MPH)
20 Yard Split: 2.48 seconds
10 Yard Split: 1.44 seconds
Bench Press: (N/A) reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 35.0 inches
Height: 71.5 inches
Weight: 197 lbs
Broad Jump: 128 inches
Hand Size: 9.25 inches
Arm Length: 31.88 inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.23 seconds
Three Cone: 7.21 seconds

Their numbers seem similar. Pro Day results are usually more favorable compared to official combine results

They were the same weight definitely the same exact player. Haha
 

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Jenkins:
Height: 70.25 inches
Weight: 197 pounds
BMI: 28.74
Arm Length: 32.13 inches
Hand Size: 9.25 inches

40 Yard Dash: 4.43 seconds
40 Yard (MPH): 18.47 (MPH)
20 Yard Split: 2.56 seconds
10 Yard Split: 1.50 seconds
Bench Press: 18 reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 34.0 inches
Broad Jump: 117 inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.40 seconds
Three Cone: 7.21 seconds

Joseph (pro day results so not 100% official):

40 Yard Dash: 4.35 seconds
40 Yard (MPH): 18.81 (MPH)
20 Yard Split: 2.48 seconds
10 Yard Split: 1.44 seconds
Bench Press: (N/A) reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 35.0 inches
Height: 71.5 inches

Josephs faster 40 time is a big difference
Weight: 197 lbs
Broad Jump: 128 inches
Hand Size: 9.25 inches
Arm Length: 31.88 inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.23 seconds
Three Cone: 7.21 seconds

Their numbers seem similar. Pro Day results are usually more favorable compared to official combine results

Josephs faster 40 time is a big difference
 
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