Our defense points given up

[Dre11]

I hear a lot of talk about the WFT vaunted defense, now I know they beat us basically with no OL and no Dak and our defense was terrible, that made it easy for them but when looking at the common opponents outside the division these are the points given up:
Dallas: Az 38 WFT: 30
Cle 49 34
Bal 34 31
LA 20 30
Sea 38 20

Add to that the only good QB they beat was Rothlisberger who wasn't even that good last season

 

[Sydla]

So.......... are you trying to make the claim our defense is as good?

 

[Dre11]

So.......... are you trying to make the claim our defense is as good?

no what I'm saying is their defense isn't as vaunted as it's made out to be. if you read it, I said our defense sucked.

 

[jazzcat22]

no what I'm saying is their defense isn't as vaunted as it's made out to be. if you read it, I said our defense sucked.

I have posted this in a few threads. Not some of the points as you did.
I said their defense have given up points as well. Their defense looked great against our injury depleted offense, 2nd, 3rd, 4th team OL and QB’s.

As most Dallas fans only seen those games and not as many of the other Washington games. I seen a lot of their play, due to NFL ST. They are good, but they weren’t that good.

 

[Dre11]

I have posted this in a few threads. Not some of the points as you did.
I said their defense have given up points as well. Their defense looked great against our injury depleted offense, 2nd, 3rd, 4th team OL and QB’s.

As most Dallas fans only seen those games and not as many of the other Washington games. I seen a lot of their play, due to NFL ST. They are good, but they weren’t that good.

yeah I live here, I see pretty much all their games at some point being local, they have a good D line, after that they're suspect, the teams with good Qbs that they played all won against them. then throw in the Giants who swept them

 

[Sydla]

They were:
- 4th in points allowed per game.
- 2nd in yards allowed per game.
- 3rd in opposing QB rating
- 6th in sacks
- 5th in interceptions

They were a legitimate top flight defense. And if you want to claim they faced an easy schedule, Football Outsiders advanced stats, which adjust for SOS, had them as a top flight defense.

Attempts to minimize how good they were on defense is funny but yet sooooooo predictable from Cowboys fans.

 

[Dre11]

They were:
- 4th in points allowed per game.
- 2nd in yards allowed per game.
- 3rd in opposing QB rating
- 6th in sacks
- 5th in interceptions

They were a legitimate top flight defense. And if you want to claim they faced an easy schedule, Football Outsiders advanced stats, which adjust for SOS, had them as a top flight defense.

Attempts to minimize how good they were on defense is funny but yet sooooooo predictable from Cowboys fans.

again, like opponents, points given up from each, they played an easy schedule, that the going argument here anytime someone brings up anything positive. but now easy schedule doesn't matter, it's all we heard down the stretch last season with the cowboys. "look at who they faced" look at the qbs they faced" ...lol gtfoh they weren't that good.

 

[Sydla]

again, like opponents, points given up from each, they played an easy schedule, that the going argument here anytime someone brings up anything positive. but now easy schedule doesn't matter, it's all we heard down the stretch last season with the cowboys. "look at who they faced" look at the qbs they faced" ...lol gtfoh they weren't that good.

This is a tough one for me.

Believe Dre11's analysis that the Commanders defense wasn't that good or believe the mountains of stats including advanced stats that take into account SOS, etc. that say they were a really good defense.

Whew boy........... tough call there.

 

[Hennessy_King]

If they looked at points per drive by the defense im sure the gap would widen

 

[Risen Star]

Their defense reminds me of the 85 Bears.

 

[CowboyRoy]

no what I'm saying is their defense isn't as vaunted as it's made out to be. if you read it, I said our defense sucked.

Misleading as they dont score a lot of points so the other teams offense doesnt have to be as aggressive either. Wash defense was waaay better then ours last year. Not to mention the games you chose to (agenda) post were good offenses.

 

[CowboyRoy]

This is a tough one for me.

Believe Dre11's analysis that the Commanders defense wasn't that good or believe the mountains of stats including advanced stats that take into account SOS, etc. that say they were a really good defense.

Whew boy........... tough call there.

Anybody that posts selective or small sample size stats typically has an agenda.

 

[Dre11]

Misleading as they dont score a lot of points so the other teams offense doesnt have to be as aggressive either. Wash defense was waaay better then ours last year. Not to mention the games you chose to (agenda) post were good offenses.

That's the point, of course they were the good offenses, they're also the same offenses we played as well, and the bs they didn't have to be aggressive is the same for them as well, with no offense at all.

 

[Dre11]

Anybody that posts selective or small sample size stats typically has an agenda.

there is an agenda, duh, they're not this vaunted defense they are made out to be. they played the same cupcakes we did, and gave almost the same points with like opponents. weak opponents was the calling card here when the defense started making plays .

 

[JBS]

Football team defense only significantly outperformed Dallas defense in every single game mentioned but one..for anyone that didn't know their defense is way better than ours, well it is

 

[visionary]

I hear a lot of talk about the WFT vaunted defense, now I know they beat us basically with no OL and no Dak and our defense was terrible, that made it easy for them but when looking at the common opponents outside the division these are the points given up:
Dallas: Az 38 WFT: 30
Cle 49 34
Bal 34 31
LA 20 30
Sea 38 20

Add to that the only good QB they beat was Rothlisberger who wasn't even that good last season

Man, it’s a good thing you’ve made some asinine threads in the past so as crazy as this is, it doesn’t make your top 10

 

[Dre11]

Man, it’s a good thing you’ve made some asinine threads in the past so as crazy as this is, it doesn’t make your top 10

Asinine as some of your takes, they're not as vaunted as they made out to be, weak against good offenses good against weak offenses and qbs. As bad as we were they given up the pretty much the same points among like opponents

 

[Sydla]

If they looked at points per drive by the defense im sure the gap would widen

Ask and you shall receive. Taking away end of half drives where the opposition kneeled/ran out clock.

Skins points per drive in those 5 games = 2.23
Cowboys points per drive in those 5 games = 3.38

Yeah, it's not even all that close.

 

[Dre11]

Ask and you shall receive. Taking away end of half drives where the opposition kneeled/ran out clock.

Skins points per drive in those 5 games = 2.23
Cowboys points per drive in those 5 games = 3.38

Yeah, it's not even all that close.

not that big of a difference considering they suppose to be this vaunted defense and we were all time bad, you're making my point, its not that we were good or better than them, they're not all that.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Ask and you shall receive. Taking away end of half drives where the opposition kneeled/ran out clock.

Skins points per drive in those 5 games = 2.23
Cowboys points per drive in those 5 games = 3.38

Yeah, it's not even all that close.

Lol its almost like i already knew this .

Thanks for posting tho i dont even waste my time no more