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Your theories don’t mean diddly, but I DID chuckle a little!

Yes, you ALWAYS chuckle and are sure to let everyone know that you find stuff "humorous." I think it's part of the self-sell. You're free to do it. I just observe.
 

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??? how many did Dak win?

You were #1 in the nfl on offense in 2019 and went 8-8. Winning divisions and having high scoring offenses do not necessitate the existence of the other

No one would know that more so than fans of the Dallas Cowboys
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you are faulting Dak for what Safford has been for his whole career!!! huh?
 

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It's going to be more fun than watching the games. :lmao:

Maybe if you losers were better homers, the team would have won something the past 25 years.
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in your anger and haste to respond, you didn't even think anything through...did you read what you wrote? made zero sense at all..

perhaps lingering effects of drinking on memorial weekend. lets just chalk it up to that...
 

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:huh:

in your anger and haste to respond, you didn't even think anything through...did you read what you wrote? made zero sense at all..

perhaps lingering effects of drinking on memorial weekend. lets just chalk it up to that...
Sure it does. I don't mind being a hater on the cowboyszone message board. I know it will ruin Rockport's time spent here, and that's worth it, in and of itself.
 

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Depends on T. Smith, Collins. A return to both of those to form, and sure.

Though who says you have to have the no. 1 offense to win the SB? That's more my concern, will the team be balanced enough? Can't have the 31st ranked defense again, or even a slightly better defense, they have to improve markedly, I'd say 15th or better....
 

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Yes, you ALWAYS chuckle and are sure to let everyone know that you find stuff "humorous." I think it's part of the self-sell. You're free to do it. I just observe.
And STILL don’t know diddly!
 

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:facepalm: This best offense won how many games last year with Dak? :facepalm:

You don't earn bragging rights until you actually do something. Like Jimmy used to say: If you talk the talk, you gotta walk the walk.
 

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I think we can do both, be the leading offense for yardage and play defense. It's hard to beat a team that mows through defenses and is hard to score on.
Sure....I'm not at all saying we should try to be a lower "ranked" offense which gives us some better shot at winning somehow.....

I would just rather win....or even make progress as an organization....than be able to say we accumulated the most yards in a season.
 

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I'd say he takes a lot of criticism, some fair, some not.

It's tough to judge anyone at all off last season for reasons we are all aware of.

Elliott has definitely lost some explosiveness, and he appears to be taking steps to correct that.

He IS a bit of a front runner (has always won) and last years mess of an offense wasn't the best spot for him.

I'm actually more concerned about the pass happy league and him getting an opportunity to return to his old self more than any of it.

I don't see the team going back to where 21 was featured and Prescott drove the bus.....although my opinion is that's our best bet to turn things around quickly.

well the answer lies somewhere in between, stop being so pass happy and have KM actually get the run game schemes as creative as his pass schemes..he just hasn't mastered using the run game to compliment the pass game and vice versa , seems to me hes using to sets of play books one old one for run and his new doodle book for passing..

I blame Moore for most of EE issues 2019 he started it and it got worse as that season closed IE see the MN game and the last half of the 2019 season KM was more the issue than anyone else ..the run game was vanilla and even when the defense was trying to stuff it he kept running the same 5 plays that make it easy to defense the run..

zekes bad year was last year and well its not his fault entirely..i view it like most fans with common sense but there remains about 20% of the fan base just using 2020 as sign zekes done and washed up .. um not even the case.. what we saw in 2019 is more in line of what zeke has become and some of that is for sure on Moores offense..but it maybe what we see from EE because of that and his mileage..
 

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O-line healthy, Dak is back, Jarwin is back. WRs stacked, yes I see this offense lighting up the league. With a little help from the D, this team will be downright dangerous. Whipping the Bucs week 1 would send a message to the rest of the league the Boys mean business.
 

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:huh:

you are faulting Dak for what Safford has been for his whole career!!! huh?

No, I’m saying you can’t say Stafford hasn’t won passing titles and use that as an excuse for him not elevating the Rams, and then turn around and Pat Dak on the back for doing the same
 

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As far as Zeke is concerned, there were only 9 backs who rushed for over 1,000 yards last year. Zeke was less than 100 yards rushing for the season than 6 other backs.
Obviously teams have gotten away from having the run game the focus of the offense. Bucs' top rusher was actually a yard less for the year than Zeke, and they won it all.

Considering the loss of Smith and Collins for basically the whole year, and Martin for several games, I don't think it's at all unreasonable for Zeke to get back into the top-3 rushers this year. And that's plenty good enough, he doesn't have to get 1,500 yards or so, like blueblood70 said, the run game has to compliment the passing game, and Moore doesn't seem to know how to do that....
 

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I think we can do both, be the leading offense for yardage and play defense. It's hard to beat a team that mows through defenses and is hard to score on.

no some sacrifices for being great between the 30s is necessary if it means more scoring in the RZ and stop kicking so many Fgs instead of going for it more..they move the ball , stall drives point or kick far too many Fgs..

thats the issue its the missing stat and the only important stat= scoring! score more TDs..the offense made far too many mistakes even with dak the fiorst 5 games, TIOs, penites, stalled drives because if dropped passed , missed open Wrs etc etc..the defense struggled and then you add many extra drives they had to defense due to the offense and ST gaffs..thats a bad formula..

play cleaner football on offense and score more, thats what makes you good..

Its like TB 2019 Winston giveth than taketh away they were a TB12 away from winning.. TB moved the ball easily but didnt score enough and turned it over fare too often..so wat TB was the best offense in 2019 because they had the most yards? heck Winston had what 32-35 tds as well sure on paper they looked great but they were NOT..

same with 2019 3-5 finish and 2020 first 5 games with our starters we just made far too many mistakes which led to less scoring..

you cant be #1 if you make mistakes..hollow yards just arent enough to be #1 id say we are in the 3-5 area until they fix issues with mistakes..
 

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#1 doesnt mean own the most yards stat!

but the reason they don’t go by scoring is becayse so much of it is swayed by your own defense, and your special teams.

Teams have put up 40 points before with less than 300 yards of total offense, because the opponents can’t hold on to the ball, offense always starting in opponent’s territory, pick 6’s, and a myriad of field goals.


so while I agree judging by purely the yards stat is imperfect, it’s the most logical way to do it until ESPN comes out with a total offense stat like they did QBR
 
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Cowboys can do better in several areas, like penalties. But KC led the league in penalties and penalty yardage and still got to the SB. Dallas was like 9th or 10th in penalties, not that bad. Timing of penalties is a factor of course, seems the Cowboys shot themselves in the foot way to often at critical times....
 

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No, I’m saying you can’t say Stafford hasn’t won passing titles and use that as an excuse for him not elevating the Rams, and then turn around and Pat Dak on the back for doing the same
Let's just be consistent with what we are saying.
 

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As far as Zeke is concerned, there were only 9 backs who rushed for over 1,000 yards last year. Zeke was less than 100 yards rushing for the season than 6 other backs.
Obviously teams have gotten away from having the run game the focus of the offense. Bucs' top rusher was actually a yard less for the year than Zeke, and they won it all.

Considering the loss of Smith and Collins for basically the whole year, and Martin for several games, I don't think it's at all unreasonable for Zeke to get back into the top-3 rushers this year. And that's plenty good enough, he doesn't have to get 1,500 yards or so, like blueblood70 said, the run game has to compliment the passing game, and Moore doesn't seem to know how to do that....
Maybe that's why McAdoo is being hired to consult. He can help Kellen with that running game.
 

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then its not that cowboys offense was bad in the first half, as many fault it for all the losses and slow starts...they were middle of the pack..and pretty good in the second half, which most want to just dismiss as it doesn't matter...

but based on what everyone said, the offense was ssssssssooooooooo bad in the first half that we never had a chance the rest of the game...essentially saying game was over before it started...

and now do me a favor, do the same rankings for the defense..... and blame the offense for defensive performance.

The thread is about being the best offense in the league

Why would you not want those extra points in the first half to move them up to the top of the league.
is that even possible? to be leading in every quarter of every game? has any team ever done it, dominate in 3 out of 4 quarter of every game? is this a bar that any team can meet...ever?

No, but I would think if you have the money invested and the players the cowboys have on offense, they should be able to do that to atleast a few teams this season. If you look at teams with dominant defenses in the league, they have games where they hold teams to shutouts and below 10 points. That is all 4 quarters. I would think an offensive based team can do the opposite of that
 

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:facepalm: This best offense won how many games last year with Dak? :facepalm:

You don't earn bragging rights until you actually do something. Like Jimmy used to say: If you talk the talk, you gotta walk the walk.
offense, defense special teams all have to do their job. on top of that a semi-competent coach who can make the right calls at the right time during the game. offense doing their job is what they did. however, defense has to do theirs....and like I said, a competent coach who doesn't grab defeat from jaws of victory.....
 
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