Dak gets another Top 5 ranking

[Rockport]

These days it's really hard to find anyone who don't rank him from #5-7. Sure we weren't winning, but Quarterbacks have struggled even under good conditions - and with good receivers. (like Kirk Cousins has a really good supporting cast, but he's still middle of the pack)

Dak was ripping it in all of the games he actually played in last year. The only one he looked merely decent was against the #1 defense.... the Rams. I can totally see why he's Top 5. Everyone else but the Top 6 has looked horrible at times last year.


https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2021/6/1/22445936/nfl-quarterbacks-ranked-2021-qb-rankings-starters


No. 5: Dak Prescott — Cowboys
It’s so weird to think of a Dallas Cowboys quarterback flying under the radar, but it feels like Prescott is the best quarterback people don’t really talk about when it comes to the NFL’s best passers. This is probably due (in part) to a year of Cowboys fans saying Dak wasn’t that good because he didn’t sign a low-ball offer, now needing to pivot into championing him again.

No. 4: Deshaun Watson — Texans
Honestly, I don’t know what Watson’s situation will be in 2021. There’s a pending league investigation into allegations of sexual assault, and that could mean he’s suspended for a significant amount of time. However, if we look purely at on-field play he remains one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, even on the league’s most dysfunctional roster.

No. 3: Tom Brady — Bucs
Brady is past the point where he’ll be a stat-stuffing God, but until someone else proves it he’s still the best pure winner at the position in football. With the support around him in Tampa Bay, there’s nothing preventing him from having another great season, perhaps even taking the Buccaneers back to the Super Bowl.

No. 2: Patrick Mahomes — Chiefs
It’s Pat Mahomes. Nuff said, really. Seriously though, crushing Super Bowl loss aside, the Chiefs have made moves to get Mahomes more protection, which feels like the only thing holding him back from throwing for 5,000 yards a season like it’s nothing.

No. 1: Aaron Rodgers — Packers
Rodgers is the reigning MVP, sure — but this is also a product of him doing so much with such little support. For Rodgers to actually be the top quarterback again in 2021 could depend on where he plays, but I have a feeling enough will be done to keep him in Green Bay and get him some help.

Those that know about NFL QB's know he's at least top 5 and moving up.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Russell Wilson threw 40 TDs last year.

Russell Wilson won a very contentious NFC West with a 12-4 record.

Russell Wilson is one of the greatest playoff QBs of the last decade.

Russell Wilson is not on Dak’s level....

according to this article

so given the excuses the Dak detractors give on Dak's stats, etc. lets take a look at mr. Russell in Seattle. he won a superbowl and went to another when he had Lynch in the backfield carrying the team and legion of boom. since he lost his defense and doesn't have the run support in the likes of lynch he is 1-3 in the playoffs.... so is he still one of the greatest since he rode the back of his defense to win some playoff games...

just sayin'

 

[Rockport]

It's so funny that you mention Kirk Cousins, because Kirk Cousins will consistently give you around 4,300 yards, around 30 TDs and around 10 INTs every single year.

Dak has put up those types of numbers ONCE, but Kirk is middle of the pack and Dak is top 5, ahead of guys like Allen and Wilson......

Cousins can't sniff Dak's jock.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

so given the excuses the Dak detractors give on Dak's stats, etc. lets take a look at mr. Russell in Seattle. he won a superbowl and went to another when he had Lynch in the backfield carrying the team and legion of boom. since he lost his defense and doesn't have the run support in the likes of lynch he is 1-3 in the playoffs.... so is he still one of the greatest since he rode the back of his defense to win some playoff games...

just sayin'

Everyone performs better with a better team. Everyone performs worse (or should) with a worse team. Not sure what you take out of it any more than that

 

[Rockport]

Russell Wilson threw FOURTY TDs last year.

Russell Wilson won a very contentious NFC West with a 12-4 record.

Russell Wilson has won few than 10 games just once in his 9 year career.

Russell Wilson has never had a losing record or even gone .500.

Russell Wilson is one of the greatest playoff QBs of the last decade with 8 playoff wins in 9 years.

Russell Wilson is not on Dak’s level....

according to this article

Wilson was better than Dak but is on the downside of his career while Dak is ascending. Thus the ranking probably.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What stats would you like to use? Rushing stats? Because I think you'll be surprised there also, but you probably think Dak just blows him away with rushing TDs, don't ya?

I mean, I'm just using the basic QB stats, but you're more then welcome to try and cherry pick some random stats that Dak is better at then Kirk. Because when it comes to the main stats used to judge a QB, Kirk is simply more consistent.

We can also talk about wins if you want, but I don't really know what kind of hill you have to stand on when comparing them. They both only have 1 playoff win.

no, its just that one day its wins, but then its not all on him, but then it is on him, but not really, but yeah really. now we compare QBs with passing yard stats, but then we said before passing yard stats are meaningless. its a moving target depending on the argument of the day. its hard to keep up.

Kirk's problem in fact was his inconsistency and shrinking in the 4th quarter. that's why washington let him walk. I lived in DC area and that was the talk about cousins. nobody wanted him and even now in their QB situation they don't want him. Kirk was a first quarter, second quarter QB and shrunk and lost games in the 4th...but to some people 1st and 2nd quarter matter more than 3rd and 4th....God knows how many times we have heard that on this board, probably 18,489 posts on that subject alone.

Kirk cousin is done, descending, he even lost to Andy Dalton, go figure that one out only putting up 28 pts against that cowboys defense of 2020. losing another 4th quarter game, which has been story of his career.

btw, Kirk got a 33M/year contract last year...which was the going market rate for QBs....

everyone in the NFL says Dak is better than cousin, so you are crawling up the wrong tree on this one. find me one person that says Kirk is a better QB than Dak (and not Dak detractors on this board).

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Wilson was better than Dak but is on the downside of his career while Dak is ascending. Thus the ranking probably.

Why do you feel he’s on the downside of his career? Because he put up statistically the best season he’s ever had? Or because his team just won 12 games in a division that’s seen 2 of the last 3 Super Bowl participants?

 

[CowboyRoy]

On the contrary, it’s not hard at all to find people that rank dak outside of the top 7

just come to this site, you will find plenty of self loathing cowboys fans that don’t think he should even be top 15

he’s very good, people forget the early 2000s post aikman years

Dak is top 7 and arguably top 5. The petty trolls just dont like to admit they have been dead wrong all along.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Everyone performs better with a better team. Everyone performs worse (or should) with a worse team. Not sure what you take out of it any more than that

yes, exactly. but I lost count of how many times I have read but but but we lost the game....the philly game, 2019...blah blah blah....

 

[CowboyRoy]

It's so funny that you mention Kirk Cousins, because Kirk Cousins will consistently give you around 4,300 yards, around 30 TDs and around 10 INTs every single year.

Dak has put up those types of numbers ONCE, but Kirk is middle of the pack and Dak is top 5, ahead of guys like Allen and Wilson......

I think I will just let you sit there with that dumb look on your face and wonder why.

 

[CowboyRoy]

And the pre-season accolades continue. Too bad he has to actually win games at some point or we'd be looking pretty set.

13-3, 9-7, 10-6, 8-8. Never had a losing season. Next dumb comment?

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

yes, exactly. but I lost count of how many times I have read but but but we lost the game....the philly game, 2019...blah blah blah....

Even with losing Marshawn, even with “losing his defense”, as you say, Russell Wilson has 9 winning seasons in 9 years. Peyton Never did that, he had a few clunkers early. Montana actually has 4 losing seasons in which started at least 1 game.

The only other player in NFL history to match Russell’s streak is Tom Brady. It’s pretty unbelievable. 98 wins in 9 years. If he goes 12-4 again, he’ll average 11 wins a season. Seahawks may have good coaching and roster development, but that takes of a lot of good QBing to maintain

 

[CowboyRoy]

I said AROUND 30 TDs every year. Which is correct.

What terrible numbers you are trying to reach for to try and say Dak is better. You're even using hypothetical stats to try and make your point lol

He is better. The list clearly agrees as does any list you will find. The fact that YOU don't understand is inconsequential. Just another example of how a troll like you dont understand football or QB play.

 

[Doomsday101]

Russell Wilson threw FOURTY TDs last year.

Russell Wilson won a very contentious NFC West with a 12-4 record.

Russell Wilson has won few than 10 games just once in his 9 year career.

Russell Wilson has never had a losing record or even gone .500.

Russell Wilson is one of the greatest playoff QBs of the last decade with 8 playoff wins in 9 years.

Russell Wilson is not on Dak’s level....

according to this article

Yet since the end of the legion of Boom his post season record is 2-4. I think Wilson is a very good QB but their championship season had a lot to do with that defense and the running game of Marshawn Lynch. hell they could have won back to back SB had they handed the ball off to Lynch down by the goal line vs NE instead Wilson throws the pick and NE holds on to win. Frankly all this shows me is the importance of team when it comes to winning it all.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Scary thing is 2 of these 5 will soon be on different teams. I'm really hoping none end up in the NFCE.

I'm really OK with Dak being on a top 5 list but lists are just lists. All I ask is he give my Cowboys more hardware. That's a simple enough. thing. I'm gonna be all Al Davis on this Dak post and say "Just win , baby!"

Also I think Kellen Moore helps Dak succeed at a higher level. But I can also say Andy Reid helps Mahomes.

Well thats your problem right there. You think that QB's just "give hardware". "Is that simple enough"? LOL

NO, its definitely not that simple. There is a little thing called coaching, defense, special teams, injuries, other teams, ect......ect......

 

[CowboyRoy]

It's so funny that you mention Kirk Cousins, because Kirk Cousins will consistently give you around 4,300 yards, around 30 TDs and around 10 INTs every single year.

Dak has put up those types of numbers ONCE, but Kirk is middle of the pack and Dak is top 5, ahead of guys like Allen and Wilson......

Are you saying the Kirk Cousins is better than Dak? After all I dont want to misquote you.

Because thats what it seems like to me you are alluding to.

 

[CowboyRoy]

so its about yards and stats then? not about wins? seems like you changed your tune. Dak had 4900 in 2019 and well on his way to 5000 in 2020 before the injury....so are we now using passing yards and TDs as a measure of a QB? the constant shifting of the target is confusing

Poor trolls fall right into the pit of contradiction every time.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

13-3, 9-7, 10-6, 8-8. Never had a losing season. Next dumb comment?

didn’t he go 1-3 or 2-3 last year?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Its not dishonest. Its the truth. We were 1-3 and playing catchup every game. Blame the defense. Fine. But don't pretend Dak's numbers were put up against solid defenses in closely contested games. We saw many of those in 2019 and Dak was very mediocre in those games. Just the facts.

NOT closely contested games? Are you sure you want to stick with that comment because I will show you EXACTLY how contested those games actually were.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Cousins can't sniff Dak's jock.

Prove me wrong.