News: Michael Gallup Talks Contract

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Training camp isn't even here and we are already talking about making trades at the deadline? LMAO.

You don't go into the season thinking you are going to trade Cooper or Gallup. you go into the season thinking you have the best trio of WR's in the league and you get everything you can out of them on the field and hope that translates to a division title and a playoff run. Now, if Dallas is sitting there at 2-6 at the halfway point, then yeah, see if you can flip Cooper or Gallup for some picks.
 

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Hopefully Dak and Gallup can start connecting on some of those bombs that always seem a step or two off. That's the only way he's getting paid here.
 

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The cap says Cooper or Gallup is gone next year (if not traded this year). Which one I guess we can debate...

Not really. They set up Daks contract to be restructured right away.
Cooper can be restructured too too free up ~12.5mil for 2022 without adding void years or extending him.

There's so much this team can do to free up 2022 cap to keep anyone they want. And they have shown to use the restructure method to make things work out on a year to year basis.
 

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"Obviously, I'd love to stay here," he said. "I'd love to be in Dallas. I love the community, love the city, love the fans, so it's up in the air, but I want to be right here. So we'll see."

Interesting to hear him discuss it, my feeling is he’ll be open to a team friendly deal but some team will blow us out of the water. As a 3rd round pick he’s going to have to take that money.

Link to full article:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...dak-prescott-contract-status-beyond-2021/amp/
Sad to have to agree with you.
We already have a lot of money in the wr position
 

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I agree.....Stephen Jones COO will have FREE reign after Dak's deal. Stephen will penny pinch and eventually blame failure on Dak's contract

How do you "Blame Failure" on a contract? There is a cap and there is x amount of money to spend and you must spend x amount so I don't get this.
 

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With the Cowboys scheduled to be $18+ over the cap in 2022, I can see the Cowboys looking for a trade partner for Amari Cooper and his $20+ mil/season contract before the trade deadline, especially if Gallup, CeeDee and our backups step it up, along with having 2 very good TEs and Pollard to throw to out of the backfield.

Sooner, rather than later, the Cowboys are going to have to start cutting some of those highly overpaid contracts, so I can see Gallup staying if he agrees to a much cheaper yearly deal than the $20+ million Cooper is costing, especially if Cooper's foot injuries starts acting up again early this season.
 

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Not really. They set up Daks contract to be restructured right away.
Cooper can be restructured too too free up ~12.5mil for 2022 without adding void years or extending him.

There's so much this team can do to free up 2022 cap to keep anyone they wanst. And they have shown to use the restructure method to make things work out on a year to year basis.
They screwed themselves with the D Lawrence deal though. That thing is a disater!
 

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Yep, have to agree here. Gallup is just saying all the right things as he should. These guys wait for 4 years so they can get paid. He will be going to the highest bidder. I dont think we can even be in the ballpark. Drafting Lamb sealed the deal for Gallup or Cooper. One has to go.

He's probably not going to be cheap regardless, but the best deal they can get is if they extend him now. That's if they want to keep him. If they wait, regardless of what they do he's going to cost a fortune. But he won't be cheap either way.

If they extend him now, his 4th and 5th year shouldn't be too big of a cap hit. By that time they can move on from Cooper because Lamb will be up next. Rinse and repeat.
 

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Is it just me or what? But I'd rather we keep our homegrown players. So I'd rather trade Cooper and re-sign Gallup.
Well now thats just smart math, but lets wait and see what the so called experts have to say around here,,, popcorn anyone.
I might even break out the box of milk duds, and add them in to the hot popcorn, its like heaven, and then I am enlightened.
 

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Not really. They set up Daks contract to be restructured right away.
Cooper can be restructured too too free up ~12.5mil for 2022 without adding void years or extending him.

There's so much this team can do to free up 2022 cap to keep anyone they want. And they have shown to use the restructure method to make things work out on a year to year basis.
Assuming Spotrac is close to accurate, the first $18M or so only gets us under the cap. It doesn't free up money to sign anyone. Then you have to free up space to sign your draft picks and any free agents for the huge holes we always have and then guys like Gallup, LVE or whomever else we decide to keep. Being able to do it on a calculator isn't the same as being able to optimize your team under the cap. You can always do it. Dak's cap hits in 2023 and 2024 are already $44M and $47M. So if you move money out of 2022 for him you drive those up even more. To what, mid 50's? This is what we did years back and that's why we haven't been able to sign many decent free agents most years. It would a horrible decision to give a huge contract to Gallup and keep paying Cooper over $20M per year while we have CeeDee on the roster. Just doesn't make any sense in a cap world. We purposely structured a lot of these contracts to get out of them if we needed to - Jaylon, Cooper, Zeke, etc. You need to purge the guys not earning their contracts or at positions of strength even if they are good. You can't keep/sign everyone in a cap world and cutting Jaylon alone isn't going to be enough.

In your Cooper scenario, let's say we convert $18M of his salary to a bonus. That makes his cap hits:
2022 cap hit drops to $10M saves us $12M
2023 cap hit increases $6M to $28M
2024 cap hit increases $6M to $28M
The cap hit doesn't go away it just gets kicked down the road. Do we want to have Cooper with a $28M cap hit for tow years, plus Gallup while we have CeeDee likely better than both of them at that point? That's why we keep paying a different safety $1M per year every year and still suck on defense.

if the 2022 cap table wasn't bad enough. Take a look at 2023. This is insane how far away we are from everyone else. You can't just keep pushing money out. Eventually it crushes you.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2023/
 

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Training camp isn't even here and we are already talking about making trades at the deadline? LMAO.

You don't go into the season thinking you are going to trade Cooper or Gallup. you go into the season thinking you have the best trio of WR's in the league and you get everything you can out of them on the field and hope that translates to a division title and a playoff run. Now, if Dallas is sitting there at 2-6 at the halfway point, then yeah, see if you can flip Cooper or Gallup for some picks.

This.
 

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You gotta let it all play out. If Gallup shows out, Cowboys can pay him or let him walk (3rd comp pick). They could see if they can do an extension in TC. I look forward to MG taking a step forward in his development, and those 3 WRs torturing secondaries.
 

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It's inexplicable why the Cowboys haven't traded him yet unless...

1. they think they need him to win the Super Bowl this year
2. they plan to cut Amari after this year
 

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So was Alvin Harper. I do not know if a team would hold his numbers when he had to fill in against him. Some will but he will land with a team and they will try him as a #1. And a lot of that depends on what other WR's they have. What did the Cowboys have to go with Gallup before Cooper?

True. It's unfortunate but I think we'll be losing him. Fortunately we have Lamb.
 

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Training camp isn't even here and we are already talking about making trades at the deadline? LMAO.

You don't go into the season thinking you are going to trade Cooper or Gallup. you go into the season thinking you have the best trio of WR's in the league and you get everything you can out of them on the field and hope that translates to a division title and a playoff run. Now, if Dallas is sitting there at 2-6 at the halfway point, then yeah, see if you can flip Cooper or Gallup for some picks.

For real. Can't understand any of the talk of holding Gallup back when he's motivated.
 

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For real. Can't understand any of the talk of holding Gallup back when he's motivated.
It's not a question of holding him back but what option is he going to be when the full pass offense is on the field. How often will he be the hot read?

You know Booger is going to want to see his prize pick from the last draft showcased, they've got 20M to another WR and one WR on his last contract. Add the backs and TE's and how does Gallup get more shine than he's gotten in the past?

They're going to give him even more targets to raise his price on the open market? We're talking about the #3WR here, not the #2. When Lamb fell in the draft so did Gallup's chances of remaining a Cowboy unless he's willing to cut a deal and why should he do that? They're going to want to pay him #3WR money.
 

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hope we can keep him.
we got a good thing goin'.
Gallup's best is still in front of him.

with that...i'm calling on his agents wireless service to divert any call from outside Dallas.
 

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Assuming Spotrac is close to accurate, the first $18M or so only gets us under the cap. It doesn't free up money to sign anyone. Then you have to free up space to sign your draft picks and any free agents for the huge holes we always have and then guys like Gallup, LVE or whomever else we decide to keep. Being able to do it on a calculator isn't the same as being able to optimize your team under the cap. You can always do it. Dak's cap hits in 2023 and 2024 are already $44M and $47M. So if you move money out of 2022 for him you drive those up even more. To what, mid 50's? This is what we did years back and that's why we haven't been able to sign many decent free agents most years. It would a horrible decision to give a huge contract to Gallup and keep paying Cooper over $20M per year while we have CeeDee on the roster. Just doesn't make any sense in a cap world. We purposely structured a lot of these contracts to get out of them if we needed to - Jaylon, Cooper, Zeke, etc. You need to purge the guys not earning their contracts or at positions of strength even if they are good. You can't keep/sign everyone in a cap world and cutting Jaylon alone isn't going to be enough.

In your Cooper scenario, let's say we convert $18M of his salary to a bonus. That makes his cap hits:
2022 cap hit drops to $10M saves us $12M
2023 cap hit increases $6M to $28M
2024 cap hit increases $6M to $28M
The cap hit doesn't go away it just gets kicked down the road. Do we want to have Cooper with a $28M cap hit for tow years, plus Gallup while we have CeeDee likely better than both of them at that point? That's why we keep paying a different safety $1M per year every year and still suck on defense.

if the 2022 cap table wasn't bad enough. Take a look at 2023. This is insane how far away we are from everyone else. You can't just keep pushing money out. Eventually it crushes you.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/2023/

You make it sound like we would be stuck at 28mil guaranteed cap hit with Cooper even though his cap savings if cut/traded would be a huge savings if we moved him the following year. Not to mention the cap shooting up in 23 due to tv deals. And who knows if fans can come back to bring back in that income.

The Cooper deal was an extreme example and they could restructure not to the max amount and/or add void years.

It crushes you when you restructure and they retire/cut early. Romo was never expected to be run out in 17 but Dak came. Frederick was never expected to get GBS etc.
Tyron Smith was restructured a handful of times and his cap is still reasonable for an very good starting LT.

Obviously covid hit the cap which no team expected.

Not saying they have to re-sign Gallup but they can find ways to re-sign him without gutting the team.
 
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