Carlos Watkins

[ESisback]

Was never a Woods fan so I'm good with Watkins.

Probably a slight upgrade, but nothing to be excited about.

The position is still a major concern IMO.

I wouldn't call Urban a given by any means, and I think fans may be expecting a bit much out of Bohanna.

We’ve added Urban, Watkins, Basham, Big Bo, Golston, and Odiggy. Do they all suck? Have we improved at all?

 

[gimmesix]

Where is he playing in this scheme?

Either DE in the 3-4 sets or DT in the 4-3 nickel sets or both.

I think we picked him up in FA to give us options because we didn't have any proven 3-4 DEs. Both Urban and Watkins were picked up with that in mind. However, we drafted Odighizuwa, who even though he doesn't have ideal size, has those long arms and strong ability against the run, so if he's ready, I think he's got a good chance of being out there with Urban as essentially 3-4 DEs (although in the hybrid base, Osa would be considered a 3-tech, I believe, and Urban a 5-tech.)

If that's the case, then Watkins has to work himself into the rotation as a pass-rushing DT. That might not be hard for him to do because Urban isn't a pass rusher, if Osa is going to be one it might take a while, Gallimore (the best bet to be at one of the DT spots in the nickel IMO) is still development and I don't hold out much hope for Hill. Watkins' top competition for an inside spot in the nickel fronts might be Golston.

Watkins is our safety net because we know he can play in the league, even if he's the type (like a Tyrone Crawford) who can hold down a position when you don't have better. If Hill and Gallimore both step up, he might not make the roster, although he might be counted on as a 3-4 DE if Osa isn't ready. However, he also could be the reason Hill doesn't make the roster if Hill continues to be only worth a flash or two. (Right now, Watkins is the better player and probably should be considered better than Gallimore, but likely only because we've only seen Gallimore as a rookie.)

I view Urban as a player we picked up to definitely be a starter as a 3-4 end. Watkins would be more of a starter by default.

 

[Whirlwin]

Yawn..................................................

17 game season. We need guys like this. It better not be a yawn

 

[Whirlwin]

We’ve added Urban, Watkins, Basham, Big Bo, Golston, and Odiggy. Do they all suck? Have we improved at all?

Absolutely we have A rotation of players finally. And we’re going to need them with the extra game

 

[ESisback]

Absolutely we have A rotation of players finally. And we’re going to need them with the extra game

Who’s you DL for the final 53?

 

[Whirlwin]

Who’s you DL for the final 53?

I have no clue what we’re going to end up with. We’re still adding and releasing players . It’s the first time in a while we’re not set already . I know The starting lineup most likely will be

 

[Whirlwin]

We’ve added Urban, Watkins, Basham, Big Bo, Golston, and Odiggy. Do they all suck? Have we improved at all?

I definitely think we improve especially on the defensive tackle the middle of the line

 

[ESisback]

Lawrence, Gallimore, Hill, Gregory, Odiggy, Bohanna, Urban, Anae, Basham

10th spot between Armstrong, Watkins, Carter

Just a guesstimate

 

[Whirlwin]

Lawrence, Gallimore, Hill, Gregory, Odiggy, Bohanna, Urban, Anae, Basham

10th spot between Armstrong, Watkins, Carter

Just a guesstimate

I think we carry two defensive lines. Eight players. And you’re probably right

 

[ESisback]

Lawrence, Gallimore, Hill, Gregory, Odiggy, Bohanna, Urban, Anae, Basham

10th spot between Armstrong, Watkins, Carter

Just a guesstimate

and Golston

 

[ESisback]

I think we carry two defensive lines. Eight players. And you’re probably right

OL—10 (or 9)
QB—3 (or 2)
TE—3
RB—2
FB—1 (or 3rd RB)
WR—6

ST—3

DL—9 (or 10)
LB—6
DB—10

PS—OL, DL, LB, DB, RB, WR, QB

??????

 

[Corso]

OL—10
QB—3
TE—3
RB—2
FB—1 (or 3rd RB)
WR—6

ST—3

DL—9
LB—6
DB—10

PS—OL, DL, LB, DB, RB, WR, QB

??????

Works for me.

 

[fivetwos]

Either DE in the 3-4 sets or DT in the 4-3 nickel sets or both.

I think we picked him up in FA to give us options because we didn't have any proven 3-4 DEs. Both Urban and Watkins were picked up with that in mind. However, we drafted Odighizuwa, who even though he doesn't have ideal size, has those long arms and strong ability against the run, so if he's ready, I think he's got a good chance of being out there with Urban as essentially 3-4 DEs (although in the hybrid base, Osa would be considered a 3-tech, I believe, and Urban a 5-tech.)

If that's the case, then Watkins has to work himself into the rotation as a pass-rushing DT. That might not be hard for him to do because Urban isn't a pass rusher, if Osa is going to be one it might take a while, Gallimore (the best bet to be at one of the DT spots in the nickel IMO) is still development and I don't hold out much hope for Hill. Watkins' top competition for an inside spot in the nickel fronts might be Golston.

Watkins is our safety net because we know he can play in the league, even if he's the type (like a Tyrone Crawford) who can hold down a position when you don't have better. If Hill and Gallimore both step up, he might not make the roster, although he might be counted on as a 3-4 DE if Osa isn't ready. However, he also could be the reason Hill doesn't make the roster if Hill continues to be only worth a flash or two. (Right now, Watkins is the better player and probably should be considered better than Gallimore, but likely only because we've only seen Gallimore as a rookie.)

I view Urban as a player we picked up to definitely be a starter as a 3-4 end. Watkins would be more of a starter by default.

Not arguing with you, just trying to figure it all out....

If Watkins and Urban are DE (5 techs) in a 34 scheme, where is DLaw in that case?

Gregory, Basham and Anae look like LEO'S.

I'm thoroughly confused as to how this may all line up, and we may need to wait and see until they show us some things, but Watkins looks like much more of a 1T than a 5....just by body type.

 

[ESisback]

Drunken Absurdist Speculator, thinking filthy thoughts while consuming copious amounts of unhealthy meats and cheeses.

 

[ESisback]

Not arguing with you, just trying to figure it all out....

If Watkins and Urban are DE (5 techs) in a 34 scheme, where is DLaw in that case?

Gregory, Basham and Anae look like LEO'S.

I'm thoroughly confused as to how this may all line up, and we may need to wait and see until they show us some things, but Watkins looks like much more of a 1T than a 5....just by body type.

Figure it out is right! You have a better handle on it than me, man!

 

[Corso]

Drunken Absurdist Speculator, thinking filthy thoughts while consuming copious amounts of unhealthy meats and cheeses.

OMG, I want to be this!

 

[Rockport]

 

[Rockport]

Not arguing with you, just trying to figure it all out....

If Watkins and Urban are DE (5 techs) in a 34 scheme, where is DLaw in that case?

Gregory, Basham and Anae look like LEO'S.

I'm thoroughly confused as to how this may all line up, and we may need to wait and see until they show us some things, but Watkins looks like much more of a 1T than a 5....just by body type.

Quinn says he’s going to play a hybrid 3-4 4-3.

 

[CowboyJ70]

We need some DTs with Leon Lett’s height and size. These short DTs have become the trend in Dallas , but I always liked tall defensive linemen.

They could always resign David Irving

 

[ESisback]

OMG, I want to be this!

Aren’t you already? Just throw “writer” in there! And maybe “repeat offender”!