A closer look at Jayron Kearse’s interception that was called defensive PI

TheMarathonContinues

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Yes :hammer::popcorn:

some i may unignore and give them 2nd chance but typically they just run around here purposefully spouting anti cowboy hate..im here for the brotherhood and know we wont all agree on everything but won't stand a fan who truly not fan they feel like NFCE rival spies, yes some are that bad..
Trust me man I get it. I think it’s harder for people to ignore than it is to not ignore people. They deep down like the back and forth…that’s how poisonous they are.

I think some of them are actually fans of our rivals…you can tell how they post during weeks we win. You rarely see them lol.
 

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That call enraged me….a guy makes a perfect play and is penalized for it. The absolute state of officiating….
 

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i block people who are adamant at arguing and being right never any common ground and they get me irritated and benched..

so in my defense why do they have ignore to use in the first place?? id like some dislike posts buttons as well lol :)

it for my sanity i have to be intolerant of ignorant people who cant debate in reasonable and mature manner.

this is becoming a place that is hard on actual Dallas Cowboy fan differs where others stropped being cowboy fans in 1996 and come here to gloat about losses, bad contracts, our owner gm, players they hate , everything our coaches do are wrong, and we suk attitude..isnt that on our opponents websites?

i come here for the brotherhood and understand we don't all share the same opinions but there are handful in here masquerading AS DC FANS who hate this regime of oneship coaches and players to me that's not fan you accept the good with the bad if not that makes you bandwagoner waiting on anther championship to gloat about..these tough times will pay off someday but i dont need to be surrounded by fake fandom and having our own team trash talked, demeaned and put down at every sign in..

dont say they a\just have different take on the current situation, read their posts...

its ANTI_COWBOY Rhetoric the exact thing we expect from Eagles, skin, and giant fans, not our own.

its pretty bad and like i said ,maybe its dozen or so that ive had to ignore because they are TOXIC Fake fans..all they lie to do is troll and sir the pot..not in harmless way like say Risens sarcastic posts i get his dry negative humor but some here are truly cowboy haters they stopped being fans after the last sb really after Jimmy Left...its obvious now they will do all they can to post anti-cowboy messages..

as true blue fan, i wont take that crap...


Fair point. I stand corrected!
 

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Trust me man I get it. I think it’s harder for people to ignore than it is to not ignore people. They deep down like the back and forth…that’s how poisonous they are.

I think some of them are actually fans of our rivals…you can tell how they post during weeks we win. You rarely see them lol.


It's not always out of enjoyment. I know rocky truly enjoys it...admitted as much.

I've been trying to swear it off....I had a setback yesterday....whoops. Kinda embarrassed really. But rocky went after armyvet for NO reason. He makes up this "always with the negativity" thing...and I feel the need to stand up for what;s right.

I know..I KNOW! "Mind your own bidness Cowboy Lover!"

But it's my community too.

I sometimes continue because some people ask me questions that out of respect for them I feel compelled to answer.

I'm with Starfan on this...I had hoped this antagonizing crap would end with the begging of the season and a couple good games....but....nope. We're gonna keep pummeling people for no reason.

I'm back on the wagon....hoping for a smooth ride this time!
 

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It's not always out of enjoyment. I know rocky truly enjoys it...admitted as much.

I've been trying to swear it off....I had a setback yesterday....whoops. Kinda embarrassed really. But rocky went after armyvet for NO reason. He makes up this "always with the negativity" thing...and I feel the need to stand up for what;s right.

I know..I KNOW! "Mind your own bidness Cowboy Lover!"

But it's my community too.

I sometimes continue because some people ask me questions that out of respect for them I feel compelled to answer.

I'm with Starfan on this...I had hoped this antagonizing crap would end with the begging of the season and a couple good games....but....nope. We're gonna keep pummeling people for no reason.

I'm back on the wagon....hoping for a smooth ride this time!
Same here. And I'll always let the haters know when they're a hating. They bring this place down. I will always stand up for what is right.
 

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That Kearse INT is exactly what I'm talking about on the Cowboy's rep with the refs vs teams like Steelers, Ravens, Eagles, Patriots, etc. who have defensive reputations and are allowed to hold, grab and DPI without repercussions.

Most of the time, we have to play perfect ball and coverage to not get flagged. If we get away with anything, ESPN/FOX and Norm are crying about it and replaying the sequence over and over again.

I hope Dan Quinn and Parsons (and the bad*** navy blue jerseys) can change the rep of this defense

Yep! FR!
 

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Watching the replay from behind when they showed it, you could easily see the grab and pull. I did not easily see OPI, but I admit that I wasn't looking for it because I was trying to figure out why they made the call against Kearse.

At first, I was upset because I thought they called it for him reaching over to contest the ball, which was a clean play. But when they showed the replay, the grab and pull was clear. I don't see how anyone can argue against that.
Because it is rarely called and the replay shows the elbow to the head the same time he pulled to be honest. You hear it every week. "Yeah the defender had his arm around him but did not turn him"

This was classic of that case and in this case he pulled as he was getting pushed away up top.
 

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Kearse actually extends his arm right at the break.

If they called the hand on that hip, then that’s bogus, because it didn’t turn him with it and he’s playing the ball the whole time. That’s basically incidental. The DB is allowed to do that.

These are basically the rules that would apply AFTER the ball is thrown. Hands on the hip is not a penalty, because there is no body turning. The only possible argument is g on the extension of the arm. But that looks ticky tack.

  • (e) Cutting off the path of an opponent by making contact with him, without playing the ball;
  • (f) Hooking an opponent in an attempt to get to the ball in such a manner that it causes the opponent’s body to turn prior to the
    ball arriving; or

  • (g) Initiating contact with an opponent by shoving or pushing off, thus creating separation.
 
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Well, the initial shot of the play wasn't from behind, so it looked like a clean play by Kearse. It's only when they showed the footage from behind the receiver, where the official was who made the call, that you could see the grab and pull. You didn't have to watch that closely from that angle.

I do agree that the officials need to be more consistent. If they are going to call that PI, then they definitely needed to call the PI on Samuel. But I think it's safe to say by now that we're never going to achieve consistency in officiating.
I saw that replay, and cook put his elbow back to push off, looked like in his face, and the grab
was minor, I think the ref should not have called that, ruined a great int.
 

khiladi

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Actually looking at it again Kearse extends his other arm at the break and that allows him to put his hands in the hips and get positioning. People are ignoring the extension of the arm, separating it from the hands to the hip.

But still looks like two guys fighting in a physical match up.
 
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My issue with it was if you are going to call it that tight, you have to do it the entire game. Two series later, on 4th down, Asante Samuel Jr had way more contact with Cooper than Kearse did. So if you are going to call Kearse for that, then you absolutely have to call it on Samuel like 5 minutes later.

I would agree but was it an obvious Samuel foul? Cooper does push off here via full extension. And then Samuel doesn't let him by pulling Cooper's collar downward. This is a slo-mo of the replay and zoomed in. I would be inclined to leave this one alone whereas Kearse's foul was obvious on him. Ticky tack, but at least could be called. @DakPresgoat this is the play we discussed in the game day thread on Sunday.

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Yeah, they were both haters so I agree with you 100%.
Missed the point..as usual.

Of course they were haters...thinking they were oh so wise and smart.

A reminder that just because you....think you have wisdom....doesn't mean you do.
 

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Missed the point..as usual.

Of course they were haters...thinking they were oh so wise and smart.

A reminder that just because you....think you have wisdom....doesn't mean you do.
That’s what most haters think that they’re so wise and smart. You hit the nail on the head.
 
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