What Tony Pollard’s Numbers Make Clear

Diehardblues

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Elliott has become the most over paid under until utilized top RB in the league. Ridiculous
 

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He is the second cousin of Otis or a typo
Oh, you misspelled the All Time leading rusher. Lol

FYI you get about 20 minutes to edit a post.

I’m usually not a stickler on grammar but misspelling his name is an embarrassing moment for a great fan. And why I thought you must be speaking of someone else.
 

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That is my concern as well.

Pollard is playing better than Elliott but I wonder how much of that is teams game planning against Elliott rather than Pollard just like they did with Emmitt when Hambrick would come in and look much better.

I still think Pollard is better right now than Elliott, but I wonder how much of the Elliott factor is making him look a little more productive than he would be as the regular starter?
Of course. Pollard is a nice compliment but if he started defenses would snuff him out.
 

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Reminds me of when Hambrick was supposedly better than Emmett. That dint work out very well
Why in the world do people on this board keep saying this and acting as if it in any way has anything to do with our current RB situation and even worse think it somehow means Pollard shouldn’t be involved in our offense. Its like people find a “go to” line and just throw it out there even though it is completely irrelevant.
 

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Again, this isn’t a reactive “anti-Zeke” thread. Look at the numbers in the OP. The Numbers make clear. Zeke is no longer a consistent big play back. He had 30 plays of 20+yds his first 3 seasons. He’s had 3 since. Pollard has had 10 plays of 20+ yds in the last 18 games. Doesn’t mean Zeke shouldn’t be playing. Just saying Pollard should get more touches.
The big play stats are interesting but not usually a big stat line for an every down starter.

I’d be curious what other top RB’s in the league “ big play” stat lines are.
 

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Oh, you misspelled the All Time leading rusher. Lol

FYI you get about 20 minutes to edit a post.

I’m usually not a stickler on grammar but misspelling his name is an embarrassing moment for a great fan. And why I thought you must be speaking of someone else.
Typos are typos they happen that is why they call them typos Now I am going to get medicated and make more typos
 

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I love Pollard and he is doing good but I agree with Barry Church when he said it is a different game when you become top dog. Pollard is doing great and frankly Zeke had a good game as well but I tend to lean towards Church view we gonna need Zeke as the season moves forward.

No it’s not a different game.

We see scrubs with less talent than Pollard come in and do well all the time.

The best move is just let them split carries but if Pollard ever has to “carry the load” then Dallas will be more than fine.
 

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I like that Moore is utilizing Pollard more, but we need both, especially on the field at the same time. Defenses key on one…BAM! The other succeeds! Or we pass—good QB, great receiving corps and a pair of good TE’s. Opponents, pick your poison!
This is actually one of the better perspective post in this thread.
 

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Why in the world do people on this board keep saying this and acting as if it in any way has anything to do with our current RB situation and even worse think it somehow means Pollard shouldn’t be involved in our offense. Its like people find a “go to” line and just throw it out there even though it is completely irrelevant.
Pollard is a good running back and I like him. All I said is the situation is very similar
 
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Comparing Pollard to Hambrick is like comparing dogs and cats.

Not only that, Zeke is no Emmitt. No knock on Zeke, just Emmitt was very durable, consistent and had that burst for a long time. Also wanted to be the best.
 

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Pollard is a career backup Zeke is a career starter and his yardage is coming the same way Hambrick did it in spurts Do not know why anyone would want to get rid of either If you have 2 good running backs you play them.

We need to go with what is working and the one two punch is great right now. TP has more talent than Hambrick ever came close to. Unfortunately he came to a team with Zeke. That is why he's a back up. When he started last year he went wild. I wouldn't put a ceiling on him yet. This is what, his third year in the league? We don't know how he'd perform on an extended run, but we know he's excelled when given the opportunity.
 

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Zeke still has the burst. He’s just not bursting the holes or getting around the corner.

16 carries for 75 yards is a serviceable day. If he averaged 20 carries a game at that pace he’d have near 1700 yards probably leading the league.

I still think stopping Zeke is #1 goal of defenses. Our record when he rushes over a 100 yards is very good. But he needs closer to 20 carries a game.
 

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We need to go with what is working and the one two punch is great right now. TP has more talent than Hambrick ever came close to. Unfortunately he came to a team with Zeke. That is why he's a back up. When he started last year he went wild. I wouldn't put a ceiling on him yet. This is what, his third year in the league? We don't know how he'd perform on an extended run, but we know he's excelled when given the opportunity.
I was not calling Hambrick better than anyone just stated that the situation was similar and it is.
 

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FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THIS OVER THE LOUD SPEAKER: ATTENTION ALL ZEKE SUPER FANS- THIS IS NOT AN ANTI-ZEKE THREAD. THANK YOU.

One of the bright spots that has clearly emerged this season is the development of Tony Pollard into a bonafide offensive weapon. So much so he can no longer just be a “rest opportunity” for Zeke. Pollard has shown that he can be a real asset in multiple situations.

I will go a step further: Tony Pollard is now a weapon that must be a part of every game plan.

Am I saying Zeke is not necessary? Absolutely NOT. Zeke is still a valuable offensive weapon too. Two things have changed. 1. Pollard has developed into a potential big play back. 2. Zeke is not what he was in 2016-18. He still has value. But he is no longer the “bell cow” 25 carries per game back, and he does not seem to have the burst to a big play he once did. Zeke still has value though in several areas including power runs, blocking and some passing routes.

It’s also clear Kellen Moore is recognizing Pollard’s increased value. Compare game one to game to game two regarding Pollard’s work load:
  • Game 1 vs TB- 7 touches. 3 rushes for 14 yards, 4 catches for 29 yards. 43 total yds
  • Game 2 vs LAC- 16 touches- 13 carries for 109 yds, 3 catches for 31 yds. 140 total yds.
Some of the numbers will vary depending on who we play. TB was certainly better than LAC against the run.

Looking at comparisons between Zeke and Pollard and explosive plays of 20 yds plus the last two years, the numbers speak for themselves.
  • Ezekiel Elliott - Number of plays of 20 yds+
    • 2016-2018- 30 plays of 20+ yds
    • 2019-20- 3 plays of 20+ yds
    • Notice the drop off after 2018.
  • Tony Pollard - Number of plays of 20 yds+
    • 2019-20- 8 plays of 20+ yds
    • 2021- already has 2 plays of 20+ yds
    • Last two years, Pollard has 10 plays of 20+ compared to 3 for Zeke.
Once again, not saying Zeke is no good or shouldn’t play. Just saying Pollard is more of a big play threat and needs to get more touches per game. The numbers are clear.

Sounds like you’re saying Zeke is not necessary and no longer an offensive weapon.

Shots fired Bob….shots fired.
 

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Pollard is a good running back and I like him. All I said is the situation is very similar

Yeah I see your point. Hindsight and all, but TP seems to be alot better back. It will be interesting to see how the team handles it.
 

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Yeah I see your point. Hindsight and all, but TP seems to be alot better back. It will be interesting to see how the team handles it.
When he takes Zekes job away from I will accept it if he can. Right now we have both use them. And Pollard has been getting more playing time I like him at the slot receiver position
 

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FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THIS OVER THE LOUD SPEAKER: ATTENTION ALL ZEKE SUPER FANS- THIS IS NOT AN ANTI-ZEKE THREAD. THANK YOU.

One of the bright spots that has clearly emerged this season is the development of Tony Pollard into a bonafide offensive weapon. So much so he can no longer just be a “rest opportunity” for Zeke. Pollard has shown that he can be a real asset in multiple situations.

I will go a step further: Tony Pollard is now a weapon that must be a part of every game plan.

Am I saying Zeke is not necessary? Absolutely NOT. Zeke is still a valuable offensive weapon too. Two things have changed. 1. Pollard has developed into a potential big play back. 2. Zeke is not what he was in 2016-18. He still has value. But he is no longer the “bell cow” 25 carries per game back, and he does not seem to have the burst to a big play he once did. Zeke still has value though in several areas including power runs, blocking and some passing routes.

It’s also clear Kellen Moore is recognizing Pollard’s increased value. Compare game one to game to game two regarding Pollard’s work load:
  • Game 1 vs TB- 7 touches. 3 rushes for 14 yards, 4 catches for 29 yards. 43 total yds
  • Game 2 vs LAC- 16 touches- 13 carries for 109 yds, 3 catches for 31 yds. 140 total yds.
Some of the numbers will vary depending on who we play. TB was certainly better than LAC against the run.

Looking at comparisons between Zeke and Pollard and explosive plays of 20 yds plus the last two years, the numbers speak for themselves.
  • Ezekiel Elliott - Number of plays of 20 yds+
    • 2016-2018- 30 plays of 20+ yds
    • 2019-20- 3 plays of 20+ yds
    • Notice the drop off after 2018.
  • Tony Pollard - Number of plays of 20 yds+
    • 2019-20- 8 plays of 20+ yds
    • 2021- already has 2 plays of 20+ yds
    • Last two years, Pollard has 10 plays of 20+ compared to 3 for Zeke.
Once again, not saying Zeke is no good or shouldn’t play. Just saying Pollard is more of a big play threat and needs to get more touches per game. The numbers are clear.
Transition to the better player
It's what good teams do
 
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FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THIS OVER THE LOUD SPEAKER: ATTENTION ALL ZEKE SUPER FANS- THIS IS NOT AN ANTI-ZEKE THREAD. THANK YOU.

One of the bright spots that has clearly emerged this season is the development of Tony Pollard into a bonafide offensive weapon. So much so he can no longer just be a “rest opportunity” for Zeke. Pollard has shown that he can be a real asset in multiple situations.

I will go a step further: Tony Pollard is now a weapon that must be a part of every game plan.

Am I saying Zeke is not necessary? Absolutely NOT. Zeke is still a valuable offensive weapon too. Two things have changed. 1. Pollard has developed into a potential big play back. 2. Zeke is not what he was in 2016-18. He still has value. But he is no longer the “bell cow” 25 carries per game back, and he does not seem to have the burst to a big play he once did. Zeke still has value though in several areas including power runs, blocking and some passing routes.

It’s also clear Kellen Moore is recognizing Pollard’s increased value. Compare game one to game to game two regarding Pollard’s work load:
  • Game 1 vs TB- 7 touches. 3 rushes for 14 yards, 4 catches for 29 yards. 43 total yds
  • Game 2 vs LAC- 16 touches- 13 carries for 109 yds, 3 catches for 31 yds. 140 total yds.
Some of the numbers will vary depending on who we play. TB was certainly better than LAC against the run.

Looking at comparisons between Zeke and Pollard and explosive plays of 20 yds plus the last two years, the numbers speak for themselves.
  • Ezekiel Elliott - Number of plays of 20 yds+
    • 2016-2018- 30 plays of 20+ yds
    • 2019-20- 3 plays of 20+ yds
    • Notice the drop off after 2018.
  • Tony Pollard - Number of plays of 20 yds+
    • 2019-20- 8 plays of 20+ yds
    • 2021- already has 2 plays of 20+ yds
    • Last two years, Pollard has 10 plays of 20+ compared to 3 for Zeke.
Once again, not saying Zeke is no good or shouldn’t play. Just saying Pollard is more of a big play threat and needs to get more touches per game. The numbers are clear.

I'd agree, and to add to that, Dak seems to have turned the corner on holding the ball too long trying to read the defense, he's making the reads and letting it fly. Opposing defenses might have to stop loading up on the run and daring Dallas to pass,,, which should make Zeke more productive.
 

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When he takes Zekes job away from I will accept it if he can. Right now we have both use them. And Pollard has been getting more playing time I like him at the slot receiver position
Maybe they’ll add someone next year.
 
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