Moore vs The Master

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Kellen Moore hasn't had the pleasure of preparing for Belichick and his ever morphing defensive schemes but this will be a great experience for him and excellent preparation for the rest of the season. No other DC is going to out prep Belichick for the Cowboys.

On the other side of that are the teams the Cowboys have yet to play and their DC's watching to see how Belichick takes on the #1 offense in the league. And the tricky part of that is the balance the Cowboys have. Not such an easy task.

Belichick is known for taking away what an OC likes to do best, well, which is that? Moore has the #2 rush game and #10 pass game in yards but 3rd in TD's and 2nd in completion percentage. Pick your poison.

This past game, Belichick will see the Giants stack the box on film and the Cowboys still ran on them. Shades of the early 90's. It is not about what you allow me to do but what I want to do and can do.

He can sell out against the run but he really doesn't have the talent to defend a good passing game and for a run team, the Cowboys have a very good passing game. I do think the Cowboys are the hardest team to prepare for from the defensive perspective.

I know there is some concern Moore might get HC offers in the off season and this is the game that all GM eyes will be on him so the better he does against Belichick, the better the chance that we lose him sooner. But, I do not see anyway he doesn't leave soon anyway as he could have that "next McVay" light shining on him.

And we already know one owner and GM in Vegas that will have a keen eye on Young Kellen. And maybe one in NY?

Can you imagine being Kellen Moore this week and preparing for the man that is the living legend in defense in the NFL? This is exactly the kind of game that Belichick needs to right his ship and reclaim his legendary status. He missed that two games ago and this is his chance to grab that. Young Kellen will get his best.

I like the fact that Young Kellen has been playing chess instead of checkers because Sunday afternoon, he goes up against the Grand Master. The game within the game will be as interesting as the game itself.

I think Belichick will test the patience of Moore and see if the young OC is up for a tight game going into the 4th quarter, a New England specialty. They feed you the beans for 3 quarters and hope you run out of gas in the 4th quarter, the ever present strategy of a defensive genius.

I like Young Kellen's edge in this, he knows he has the better talent and he is capable of playing the game anyway The Master wants to play it and that is not something Belichick is used to facing.

Edge - Moore, Edge - Cowboys in a close one.

This 17th game added will be the most important game of the season because of the game within the game and the residual effect that can have on the rest of this season.

Actually Kellen Moore faced Bill Belly in 2019, when we lead the NFL in total yards on offense,… but unfortunately the horrid downpour
monsoon of a storm contributed more to a careful, slippery, conservative approach.

- My guess is Belly is gonna scheme to stop the run, try to make us one dimensional instead dual dimension. .. and have Dak drop to seven step pass
as much as possible for sacks-pressure-harrassment.; get him off his game.

- I figure Belly is crowding the line with overload Blitzes with some mixed man coverage, package/disguise with press jam and cushion coverages
to confuse Dak,.. i expect man press disrupt Cooper- Lamb and make them work harder to exert themselves and disrupt routes

- Per pass game I’m taking them (lamb, coop) away with deep umbrella double teams and forcing the likes of Wilson, Schultz, Jarwin to beat me.

* Bottom line with Belly vs our Kellen-Offense; It's more about Belly trying to disrupt the OL blocking, stopping our run game, minimizing
Zeke/Pollard early downs, and force Dak have to quickly throw vs blitzes/pass on deeper drops on longer yard downs.

- Also Matt Jones led offense is gonna dink-dunk ball control to keep our offense off field, while occasionally go after Anthony Brown.....
(oops I almost said Larry Brown. .lol)

- And watch the Pats special teams vs Bones-head Fassel. Pats have been known for twists and games too,
And what i think will be a tighter game than expected, cannot afford mishaps and missed FG chances.
 

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Yeah I’ll admit he’s a great defensive mind, but as far as head coach, he’s had one winning season in his entire career without Brady. Facts are facts

Please stop saying this.. because it's wrong.. Belichick went 11-5 in Cleveland in 1994. He also went 11-5 in 2008 the year Brady got his knee taken out. If you're going to claim to be posting fact then do some research.
 

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This game probably wouldn’t be close in Dallas.

On the road there will be times we just need to run them over.

Remember how well our fan club travels nationwide.
I'm interested to see how much cheers we get instead of boos,. .the ever-magic of Cowboys legacy.
 

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Please stop saying this.. because it's wrong.. Belichick went 11-5 in Cleveland in 1994. He also went 11-5 in 2008 the year Brady got his knee taken out. If you're going to claim to be posting fact then do some research.

And with our once Matt Cassell at QB at that. .. :confused:
 
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And with our once Matt Cassell at QB at that. .. :confused:

Yeah I think he also went 3-1 with Jimmy Garafolo and Jacoby Brissett the year Brady was suspended over deflate-gate. Belichick knows how to win games without Brady provided he has talent.. His problem the last two years has simply the lack of talent. Give him Tampa's roster and he goes 15-1 last year.
 

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This game won’t be close, no running game and a rookie QB. Should be a piece of cake…

Famous last words.

Oh I'd not be surprised if it was a Dallas blowout, though I don't see this team having many blowouts, heck it took the Giants losing nearly all their offensive skill players and they still put up 20 pts on us, and none of them were garbage time points. Dallas' defense isn't bad but Buffalo's defense has two shutouts this season, albeit against very weak teams, Dallas isn't up to their level. But I'd expect a 10-14 point win at this point.

I've watched the Cowboys for over 50 years, regardless of who was the coach - Landry, Parcells, doesn't matter, they all lost "piece of cake" games. Until Dallas wins another SB I'm never going to assume easy wins...
 

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Actually Kellen Moore faced Bill Belly in 2019, when we lead the NFL in total yards on offense,… but unfortunately the horrid downpour
monsoon of a storm contributed more to a careful, slippery, conservative approach.

- My guess is Belly is gonna scheme to stop the run, try to make us one dimensional instead dual dimension. .. and have Dak drop to seven step pass
as much as possible for sacks-pressure-harrassment.; get him off his game.

- I figure Belly is crowding the line with overload Blitzes with some mixed man coverage, package/disguise with press jam and cushion coverages
to confuse Dak,.. i expect man press disrupt Cooper- Lamb and make them work harder to exert themselves and disrupt routes

- Per pass game I’m taking them (lamb, coop) away with deep umbrella double teams and forcing the likes of Wilson, Schultz, Jarwin to beat me.

* Bottom line with Belly vs our Kellen-Offense; It's more about Belly trying to disrupt the OL blocking, stopping our run game, minimizing
Zeke/Pollard early downs, and force Dak have to quickly throw vs blitzes/pass on deeper drops on longer yard downs.

- Also Matt Jones led offense is gonna dink-dunk ball control to keep our offense off field, while occasionally go after Anthony Brown.....
(oops I almost said Larry Brown. .lol)

- And watch the Pats special teams vs Bones-head Fassel. Pats have been known for twists and games too,
And what i think will be a tighter game than expected, cannot afford mishaps and missed FG chances.
I think this is very close to what we will see. he is going to try and make this a kicker vs. kicker and he is betting his kicker is better than ours (which probably is).

I do expect him to take some deep shots as we have been prone to giving up big pass plays, but he will whisper in his QBs ear all week, no interceptions. play it safe....that's a big part of our defense.

on the otherside, Moore/Dak may need to show that they can win a dink/dunk contest and drive for scores. Moore needs to play the field position game, dare them to dink/dunk their way down field with a rookie QB and see who makes less mistakes. Moore/dak need to stay patient as Billy will test their patience

Quinn needs to apply a lot of pressure on a rookie QB. I would move Micah to DE at least half the downs to confuse Jones and apply pressure. between Micah, Osa and Gregory, they should be able to get some pressure, but he will probably dink and dunk behind them....all we need is to get to them a few times to stop drives....and bet that they won't be able to go length of the field for scores...we also need to blitz a few times and throw in some 3-4 looks to confuse the young QB.
 

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I think this is very close to what we will see. he is going to try and make this a kicker vs. kicker and he is betting his kicker is better than ours (which probably is).

I do expect him to take some deep shots as we have been prone to giving up big pass plays, but he will whisper in his QBs ear all week, no interceptions. play it safe....that's a big part of our defense.

on the other side, Moore/Dak may need to show that they can win a dink/dunk contest and drive for scores. Moore needs to play the field position game, dare them to dink/dunk their way down field with a rookie QB and see who makes less mistakes. Moore/dak need to stay patient as Billy will test their patience

Quinn needs to apply a lot of pressure on a rookie QB. I would move Micah to DE at least half the downs to confuse Jones and apply pressure. between Micah, Osa and Gregory, they should be able to get some pressure, but he will probably dink and dunk behind them....all we need is to get to them a few times to stop drives....and bet that they won't be able to go length of the field for scores...we also need to blitz a few times and throw in some 3-4 looks to confuse the young QB.

I like the way Quinn is using Micah, all across the line, from every angle, and not just one side only as a DE.
I've seen sights where Micah is bull-rushing and over-powering a blocking back into the QB, i like and will take that mismatch as much as possible.
 

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Famous last words.

Oh I'd not be surprised if it was a Dallas blowout, though I don't see this team having many blowouts, heck it took the Giants losing nearly all their offensive skill players and they still put up 20 pts on us, and none of them were garbage time points. Dallas' defense isn't bad but Buffalo's defense has two shutouts this season, albeit against very weak teams, Dallas isn't up to their level. But I'd expect a 10-14 point win at this point.

I've watched the Cowboys for over 50 years, regardless of who was the coach - Landry, Parcells, doesn't matter, they all lost "piece of cake" games. Until Dallas wins another SB I'm never going to assume easy wins...
You lost me at Buffalo…
 

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I'm sure the master will bait moore, lets hope he doesn't take the master's bait.
 
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I think it was written that Brady would retire or move on after Belichick was over-ridden by Kraft and got Brady to take the deal to stay and he had to trade Garoppolo.

Belichick has a different mind about talent, he looks at it as what it can do for him on the field and in a trade like he did with Collins and Jones. He would have rather traded Brady to the Niners for a bag of picks and Brady gets to go to his childhood team. Only Brady saw the opportunity for his legacy vs another team and decided to take the lesser money to stay and fill the ring drawer.

Brady is a smart guy and as self-exploitive as there is in the game. He knows what's best for Tom.

Ok, for the record TB12 wanted a contract until the age of 45 which of course Kraft/Belichick wouldn't go for and frankly no one would. I mean who plays in the NFL after 40? TB12's last contract was a one year deal which of course led to him leaving for Tampa.
 

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I'll say this again for all of those who think Moore is doing this on his own. Mike McCarthy AND Moore will develop a scheme for BB. And by the way, the best team the Patriots faced was TB, the rest are bums, yet his team gave up 28, 19, 22 points. You can't be afraid of the big bear as Jimmy Johnson puts it. You've got to go in and hit them with everything you've got.


Its been well documented that its in fact all 3 KM, MM, Dak that scheme for teams...it works and need to keep working.
 

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Ok, for the record TB12 wanted a contract until the age of 45 which of course Kraft/Belichick wouldn't go for and frankly no one would. I mean who plays in the NFL after 40? TB12's last contract was a one year deal which of course led to him leaving for Tampa.


Kraft actually was ok with it, it was BB who was not.
 

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It’s hard to play chess without a Queen, Bishops, Castles, and knights. They have a king (coach) and a bunch of pawns. They’re prime and due to get blown completely off their own field.
 

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You have to wonder what some people have been watching this season when they say "NE doesn't have the talent to stop a good passing game," when they literally held the GOAT to 19 points and 250 passing yards. Is this because of last week? Last week the secondary wasn't at full strength and JoeJuan Williams was constantly picked on. That won't be the case this week. The Cowboys will have to go up against the unit that shut down the GOAT.

How do you stop a well balanced attack? Elite coaching, discipline, and pre-snap disguise. Bill managed to throw off Brady with pre-snap disguises - he will have no problem doing the same to Dak. Dak will be forced to pass when he should audible to a run play, and audible to a run play when he should be passing.

Furthermore, Biadasz will be exploited mercilessly. We've got one of the best interior pass rushes in the entire league. We'll be in Dak's face all night.

I think most people believe it was the wind and the rain that stopped the Bucs as much as the Pats defense. I'm sure Belichick will confuse Dak a few times.. but Dak is not some moron or some rookie. You're not going to fool him all game. As for the run game? What you may not have taken note of is that the Cowboys are now committed to the run more than they ever have under Moore. Which means you're not just going to be able to show a look and assume they will audible to a pass. They may simply audible to a better run against that particular look. The Cowboys are also far and away the best rush offense the Pats will have seen. Giving up 152 to the Jets 142 to the Saints and 120 to the Bucs doesn't impress anybody.. The Cowboys might double that. The only back of quality that the Pats have faced was Kamara and all he did was put up 120 yards and a TD.. the Zeke and Pollard tandem are a couple of notches up from what the Saints brought to the game. And stopping Jameis is one thing.. Stopping Dak and this bunch of receivers? Again yall better pray for bad weather..
 

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The Cowboys will have to be prepared for the inevitable loss of comms (coach to QB) that will come during the game. They need to be prepared to have hand signalling or to let Prescott call things from the line if necessary. Lots of weird stuff has been known to happen in that stadium.
 

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I will take Moore since he has more bullets in his gun than Belichick has. I think Belichick is a great HC, I also know he is a HC who is in rebuild mode. I don't think Cowboys can afford to go into the game sleep walking, they best be ready to play and if they are they should be able to handle the Pats.
Moore has never won a playoff game as an offensive coordinator = Edge Bill B
 
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