MM dropped the ball

RonnieT24

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the entire team was flat. Our playmakers all looked like crap with the exception of parsons and Osi. I also am not happy with the coaching staff for keeping dak in there. It was pointless we weren't coming back and Dak was running virtually all day. All this BS about holding the player out in Minny when he probably wanted to play for player safety then you leave him in yesterday was stupid.

Yesterday was a clusterfuk all around

They didn't leave Dak out there because they thought we were coming back. They left him out there to give him a chance to find his rhythm. If anything stood out yesterday it was that Dak was off just enough.. He missed reads, missed throws, and had probably his worst game in terms of decision making in 4 years. There were numerous times when he had a guy open short for what would have moved the sticks and he went for the deeper throw. He got impatient and it cost him. The 4th quarter was essentially a preseason game for him. And fully dressed practice.. And he needed it IMHO to get his mind right. I had no problem with him staying in.. I was more concerned about Zeke staying in until I saw Pollard get run over a couple of times in pass pro. I'm pretty much never a fan of throwing in the towel anyway.. Fight to the end.. It is the way..
 

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They didn't leave Dak out there because they thought we were coming back. They left him out there to give him a chance to find his rhythm. If anything stood out yesterday it was that Dak was off just enough.. He missed reads, missed throws, and had probably his worst game in terms of decision making in 4 years. There were numerous times when he had a guy open short for what would have moved the sticks and he went for the deeper throw. He got impatient and it cost him. The 4th quarter was essentially a preseason game for him. And fully dressed practice.. And he needed it IMHO to get his mind right. I had no problem with him staying in.. I was more concerned about Zeke staying in until I saw Pollard get run over a couple of times in pass pro. I'm pretty much never a fan of throwing in the towel anyway.. Fight to the end.. It is the way..

excuses excuses. Cooper Rush hadnt started a game in career and he wasnt "rusty"
 

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They didn't leave Dak out there because they thought we were coming back. They left him out there to give him a chance to find his rhythm. If anything stood out yesterday it was that Dak was off just enough.. He missed reads, missed throws, and had probably his worst game in terms of decision making in 4 years. There were numerous times when he had a guy open short for what would have moved the sticks and he went for the deeper throw. He got impatient and it cost him. The 4th quarter was essentially a preseason game for him. And fully dressed practice.. And he needed it IMHO to get his mind right. I had no problem with him staying in.. I was more concerned about Zeke staying in until I saw Pollard get run over a couple of times in pass pro. I'm pretty much never a fan of throwing in the towel anyway.. Fight to the end.. It is the way..

you and i can disagree on this it was pointless. If he hadn't got his rhythm by then leaving him in against a prevent defense isnt helping him moving forward and yes leaving a hobbled zeke in as well was stupid but they only got 2 backs. At about 10 minutes left when it was 30-0 it was time to live to fight another day. especially when your defense hasnt stopped anyone all day. If Dak gets rolled up on because Steele the turnstile gets beat and he's out for the season all because of trying to find rhythm is dumb.
 

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Dlaw will be a needed boost. Hopefully after the ATL game
 

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the players as usual are mostly responsible for that mess yesterday coaches are not the ones who couldnt tackle dropped passes and couldnt hit the broad side of a barn
 

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I don’t know why McCarty has to lose for people to realize how bad he is. Garrett had winning seasons even Wade did and neither one will be remembered as a great coach here, teams won in spite of them and this team was winning in spite of MM doing everything in his power to lose us games
 
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excuses excuses. Cooper Rush hadnt started a game in career and he wasnt "rusty"

Please point out where in that post I mentioned the word "rusty." I said he was off.. and like a shooter in basketball you keep shooting until you see the ball go in a few times.. Make a few layups before you try anymore threes.. That's what I equated this to.. We weren't trying to knock off any rust.. we were trying to make sure our QB and really our whole team didn't leave this game completely off kilter. Or worse, feeling like the coaching staff quit.. Players never want to give up in a game and neither should coaches. I don't care if it sounds old school.. but it is the way..
 

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Please point out where in that post I mentioned the word "rusty." I said he was off.. and like a shooter in basketball you keep shooting until you see the ball go in a few times.. Make a few layups before you try anymore threes.. That's what I equated this to.. We weren't trying to knock off any rust.. we were trying to make sure our QB and really our whole team didn't leave this game completely off kilter. Or worse, feeling like the coaching staff quit.. Players never want to give up in a game and neither should coaches. I don't care if it sounds old school.. but it is the way..

Season momentum. As someone else posted, in some ways it feels like we lost all the momentum from our win streak. I agree with you and McCarthy. Don't let it all go down the %#*$#.
 

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The Broncos came out playing like they were in a heavyweight championship fight .... the Cowboys came out playing like a golden gloves regional fight.
Blame all the way around!!!!
 

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Season momentum. As someone else posted, in some ways it feels like we lost all the momentum from our win streak. I agree with you and McCarthy. Don't let it all go down the %#*$#.

Punch ATL in the mouth and most of the momentum comes back.. Spank KC in KC and all of it will. That's the way it works. By the way they played it was obvious this team did not come to play on Sunday which means they NEEDED that *** whuppin to show them exactly what happens when they play that way. As such much as I hated watching it, I feel like we can turn it into a positive if it gets them back into focus. Now if they wallow in it and stumble to some kind of 9-8 finish we can look at this game as where it started. Time will tell.
 

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I give MM plenty of credit, but he did not have them ready to play. The defense has turnovers in there head, which is OK, but we have to tackle with the first guy and THEN try to strip the ball. Offense was just outta sync.....believe me, it happens. MM went from Fat Mike to Big Mike after six straight wins.....if he doesn't get them ready to play against ATL he's going back to Fat Mike. I'm a fan, but he needs to pull his head out of his butt and fix it!

I agree. BigMac was the victim of his ego.

He has a team playing lights out.
He's heavily favored.
He's playing at home.
At the same time Pollard's return started a fast paced emotional sequence.

Put it all together, BigMac has a great offense, heavily favored at home, emotionally charged wanting to make a statement to the hometown crowd, staring at 4th and 1.
Seems like an easy decision.

On the other hand, Tim Patrick said....

“Disrespectful,” Patrick said, as per the Broncos team website. “That [expletive]’s disrespectful. They trying us. And that’s what happens when you try us.”
 

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Just don't call me fat Ranching! Lol
HA.. I know we have fun on the forum giving hell to each other and it's all in good fun, but actually making fun of anyone's appearance isn't really cool in my eyes... Of course this is coming from the guy who has a side by side of the cat from mask next to cole beasley.. He deserves it though! :laugh:
 

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I give MM plenty of credit, but he did not have them ready to play. The defense has turnovers in there head, which is OK, but we have to tackle with the first guy and THEN try to strip the ball. Offense was just outta sync.....believe me, it happens. MM went from Fat Mike to Big Mike after six straight wins.....if he doesn't get them ready to play against ATL he's going back to Fat Mike. I'm a fan, but he needs to pull his head out of his butt and fix it!

Yeah I'm real curious to know how he responses to a bad week of practice. If he saw them dogging it at practice he needed to fix it.
 

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I give MM plenty of credit, but he did not have them ready to play. The defense has turnovers in there head, which is OK, but we have to tackle with the first guy and THEN try to strip the ball. Offense was just outta sync.....believe me, it happens. MM went from Fat Mike to Big Mike after six straight wins.....if he doesn't get them ready to play against ATL he's going back to Fat Mike. I'm a fan, but he needs to pull his head out of his butt and fix it!

I'm with you...would you rather have you know who?
 

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Jerry and Denver always trading. Makes you wonder if Dallas did not get something for the loss…
 

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Rumor is that Moore is a genius play caller. But it looks like he sucks on 4th down.

I guess I missed KM throwing, catching, running and blocking.

You live up to your name.
 

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99% of the team dropped the ball.

Dak could not hit the broad side of a barn. The WRs dropped too many passes that actually got to them.
Zeke did not look good and appeared to be hobbled some what.
The only dude that looked decent was Tony P on a few plays on offense and one two returns.

The defense started to look like last years with giving up huge gashes in the run and passing game.
Parsons looked killer as usual and with a few plays from OO that was about it on D.

There were no decent change ups on Offense or Defense after the half.

This was a Murphy's law type of game where anything that could go wrong did go wrong. That Blocked punt turning into a first down was a prime example of that.

Add into it the old quicksand idea of once things start going down hill, the more you try to get out the more it sucks you down played into it as well. They all but gave up on the run and the passing game was not working so it made it worse.
Idk why people go out of their way to praise tony pollard and blame Zeke.
Zeke 5 yards per carry, Tony p 2.8 .
I guess you mean his 1 good reception means he brought it !
 
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Mike should have seen this and corrected it. You can not allow players to stack bad days together. Get them back to fundamentals with a good ole hard nosed practice.

Amen. This loss has MM’s fingerprints all over it: Dak was not ready to play either due to injury or lack of practice, yet MM let’s him play. MM ate the cheese like everyone else and did not push the players out of it like a Jimmy or Parcells would have to get them prepared to play.. Then his second 4th down call was stupid after you didn’t get the first one and when you’re playing the 6th ranked defense in the league. It gave Broncos momentum and motivation. MM is supposed to lead the team and manage the culture and direct them where they need to go. Most times, I think MM is just a passenger on the Jerry Express.
 
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