Darren Waller fumbled that ball

[lane]

I give up trying to understand what the nfl considers a catch anymore however I think 99% of the people watching could agree that was a catch

My youngest son who is not really a football fan for obvious reasons that can not be discussed here was like WTH?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

We will never know because our coach didn't challenge it.

Can’t challenge a incomplete pass.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Just found video of the slo mo replay and the ball is out before the 3rd foot comes down. It's not a catch and correctly called incomplete. At 0:53 below.

Yeah at best it was too close to change the call. It was the right call IMO.

 

[Playmaker3128]

Yep, he took 2 full steps and started to take a 3rd as he was tucking the ball under his arm and lost it.

FYI, we couldn't challenge it because NY called down to say they reviewed it and it wasn't a catch. Complete nonsense that they are randomly chiming in without any challenge and we aren't aware of it.

Well the thing is they have been doing that recently. Which I feel is a good thing…. However there is no freaking consistency to it at all.

the officiating makes games unwatchable.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I have no idea what they ruled I was at the game smart arse

Then why are you commenting like you knew what you were talking about lol?

 

[superonyx]

Just found video of the slo mo replay and the ball is out before the 3rd foot comes down. It's not a catch and correctly called incomplete. At 0:53 below.

Is the rule 3 feet down or 2 feet down and a football move?

 

[Ranched]

That was the sweetest turnover I've seen Dallas do in along time. Raiders got away with a big one & they know it!

 

[boysbeyond4ever]

You have video? "Starting" to take a 3rd step is not a catch. "Taking" a 3rd step is.

Please show me in the NFL Rules where the wrod "Starting" as you dramatically put in quotes to try and assert you authority over all matter of the rules is. Go ahead show me - show all of us.

This is the summary although I f you like I will happily produce the rule in its entirety for you. But guess what I read it and you'll have ans easy a time finding the difference between "Starting" and "Taking" a step as you do here.

Completing a Catch | NFL Football Operations

A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds:

a. secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and

b. touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and

c. after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.


So please show me where in the NFL Rules there is differentiation between starting to take a step and taking a step.

 

[Nav22]

Just found video of the slo mo replay and the ball is out before the 3rd foot comes down. It's not a catch and correctly called incomplete. At 0:53 below.

Since when is 3 steps the rule?

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

We will never know because our coach didn't challenge it.

I'll defend Mike here. The call was changed by NY. Had Mike challenged, that goes to NY. NY isn't changing the call just because Mike challenges it. It shoulda stayed a fumble, but once NY got involved, that was the end of that. All Mike would accomplish is wasting a time out on that one.

 

[SoBlue128]

Can’t challenge a incomplete pass.

You can challenge an incomplete pass

 

[SoBlue128]

I'll defend Mike here. The call was changed by NY. Had Mike challenged, that goes to NY. NY isn't changing the call just because Mike challenges it. It shoulda stayed a fumble, but once NY got involved, that was the end of that. All Mike would accomplish is wasting a time out on that one.

We didn't know NY had stepped in that's what puzzled me as to why he didn't challenge. It's not like they say anything at the game as to why he didn't challenge. I didn't find out NY was involved till earlier. Thanks for the heads up and not being an arse hole abt it

 

[HungryLion]

I thought it was very close. I feel like it was so close that the refs would stick with the call on the field. Unfortunately they changed the call on the field to incomplete.


Brutal

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

We didn't know NY had stepped in that's what puzzled me as to why he didn't challenge. It's not like they say anything at the game as to why he didn't challenge. I didn't find out NY was involved till earlier. Thanks for the heads up and not being an arse hole abt it

Np. I know some had been wondering it during the game. I saw them call it a fumble, huddle, and change the call. That was when I realised NY jumped in, which was why I wasn't upset about Mike not challenging.

 

[SoBlue128]

Then why are you commenting like you knew what you were talking about lol?

Because I thought I did know and found out I was wrong when I came her earlier. Again I didn't know NY had gotten involved and ruled the pass incomplete.

 

[BourbonBalz]

You have video? "Starting" to take a 3rd step is not a catch. "Taking" a 3rd step is.

Two steps is as well. How is turning and taking two full steps not a football move. And the ball was under complete control. Not moving. It was a catch and a fumble. It isn’t really in question except to the morons that run the league.

 

[SoBlue128]

Np. I know some had been wondering it during the game. I saw them call it a fumble, huddle, and change the call. That was when I realised NY jumped in, which was why I wasn't upset about Mike not challenging.

Gotcha and that makes perfect sense. I could see he was pissed talking to one of the refs but that was it

 

[boysbeyond4ever]

Oh and here's a clue as to whether they got it right or not.The NFL's youtube highlight package doesn't include that play at all.Skips right past it. Funny that. Same way there is no replay of the roughing the passer of Micah that never was roughing the passer and they do show the play just not the replay we saw on TV which clearly showed how bad a call that was. Funy that.

 

[GMO415]

Yes but we're a garbage team. Lost three of the last four. Complete garbage.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Gotcha and that makes perfect sense. I could see he was pissed talking to one of the refs but that was it

Yeah, and I'd imagine Mike was pissed because he probably wanted to challenge it, but he was probably told the call came from NY, so it'd be a wasted challenge to try it. It was total bollocks the call change, but Mike didn't do anything wrong there.