Dak's career OT stats

[Ken]

Dak’s numbers shot up in the fourth because they went up tempo and hurry up against an opponent they play once every now and then and they Raiders keeping everything in front.

Don’t count on that happening against a good defense, let alone the 30th ranked scoring defense.

Oh, thanks for clarifying. Maybe every other team should do this too then...lol

Wow...the jumping through hoops that has to happen to diminish a guy having a comeback of the year/MVP type of season!

 

[Ken]

Dak has thrown many bad passes, like the 1 he sailed at Zeke’s feet against the Vikings in 2019 to ‘close out the game’. I’m not sure which one was worse, the one to Brown or the 1 to Zeke. Or the one during a clutch moment where he sailed it over the head of Zeke into the arms of the DB who ran it for a pick 6 after throwing it at the helmet of Dez, running a crossing route full speed..

Sorry, but the actual punter bailed Dak out that drive, by booming it, when they should have gotten the ball around the 50…. I mean we can go on and on..

Actually, it was the holding penalty on the Raiders but continue...

 

[blueblood70]

He cannot move on.. Dak is in his head 24/7. He dreams up scenarios where Dak failed then posts his imaginary plays as fact. He cannot be helped.. Defense gives up 36 points.. Blame the QB.. Makes perfect sense in his world.. Here on this planet though it's just stoopid. And as you know.. you can't fix stoopid.

right on..not making excuses i put the blame where the blame belongs for each loss..daks had 2 poor showings, really bad in Denver and iffy for KC thats it out of 11 games..

 

[Ken]

mores so a d issue more then a Dak issue is my point...jeez..

Believe me the D gets plenty of blame for this game, but imo, that last play was garbage on the officials.

Not arguing, just saying what i think.

 

[RonnieT24]

right on..not making excuses i put the blame where the blame belongs for each loss..daks had 2 poor showings, really bad in Denver and iffy for KC thats it out of 11 games..

Yeah there is no dancing around the two bad games against Denver and KC.. although in both games he was basically without his top 2 receivers.. Against Denver neither guy practiced all week and both admitted they couldn't really run on game day and then against KC you lose Cooper on Friday (after practicing with him all week) then lose Lamb before halftime.. All that crap matters.. The thing I will say though is that Dak has to quit accepting it when guys don't get open or drop the ball. Tuck the damn thing and run 4-5 times a game .. Fire the team up and get himself fired up. When defenses play man they are inviting the QB to to run for 5-6 yards every pass play. I would much rather see that than Dak trying to fit the ball to guys who aren't open .. or who are iffy to catch it even if they are.. I know the coaches and the training staff are in his ear about running but if it takes running to win the damn game then run the friggin ball.

 

[nalam]

He choked Thursday - just accept it!

Not only he, the offense as a whole ( WRs/TEs , RBs and OL ) . Acknowledging that they were backed up by stupid ST play within the 10 yards , but no excuses for not picking up atleast one first down.

 

[khiladi]

Your original post claimed Dak dinked and dunked....his OT average per pass is 10.5 and his average air yards is 13.3.

Probably should go back into hibernation and wonder how your Wentz analysis went so wrong.

No my original post said the following:

3 total games, two of them against the same opponent, prior to this game, going 18-18.

Basically dink and dunk against the Texans, going a whopping 3-3 only to punt and give the ball to the Texans who then scored, meaning they lost.

2 of them against the Eagles, one of them as a bus driver in 2017 when Zeke was dominating and teams were completely set on stuffing Zeke, the other in 2018, further, meaning both against Jim Schwartz who never bothered to play anything but one safety man on the outside against Dak. The 2018 game was the infamous one where Amari bailed Dak out and had to yell at Dak to throw him the ball, becayse CBs we’re just sitting the routes with no safety help over the top.

One of those ‘accurate’ OT passes was his typical 1 read throw that never should have been made on a 3rd and 8, with the Db having clear inside possession and once again, no safety to even help and a lucky bounce after the defender hit it.

As one can see, my original post was addressing the “completion percentage’ of a small sample size, including his “dink and dunk” 100% completion percentage against the Texans which resulted in the drive stalling and the Texans then scoring to win. Another completion I addressed, with the video clip, was his awful throw to Amari, which was on a 3rd and 8, should have never been thrown, 1st read almost INT pass, that bounced off the DB into Amari’s hand.

We also know basic math tells us, with less completions, a ‘long pass’ here and there will obfuscate the ‘yardage’.

 

[khiladi]

Mediocre qb lol

Currently is tops in completion % (i don't count the guys with 100+ less attempts than him, 6th in rating, top 10 tds, ypa, etc etc etc.

Mediocre. You are a clown to keep saying this.

Show me where any of this addresses the subject of my post regarding the mediocre QB, facing 8 in the box, man coverage with the best or one of the best OL in football since he stepped into the field?

 

[DallasInDC]

Truth be told, Dak is no where near as bad as the anti-Dak makes him out be and not as good as the pro Dak crowd claims...but there is no denying that he is a top 10 QB (probably much closer to top 5-7) and well worth the market value he was paid. I personally think there is no question that nay top 10 QB that comes next for a deal will get no less than what Dak got. So those complaining about the money are not grounded in te reality of market value.

I also believe he is just as capable of getting the boys to the super bowl as any of the other top 10 QBs not named Brady.

Lastly, I saw one thread, that was saying we wasted all of this talent on Dak, but still trying to figure out what QB they wanted to bring in to take this talent to the promis land??? Outside of Matt Jones (who is a product of Belichick) all the other rookie QBs suck right now.

 

[khiladi]

Dak’s bad games ‘ironically’ show up when he doesn’t have perfect blocking and his RBs aren’t netting 6 YPC and 5.8 YPC on first down this year, putting them in completely manageable 3rd and short situations, thus there emphasis of even going for it on 4th if they fail on third multiple times with Moore dictating what the defense was doing…

 

[khiladi]

Now we are going back to the "8 man in the box" bs...holy cow.

Yes, the league is terrified of the slogging Elliott...holy cow. They would much rather let Cedee, Amari and CO beat them in chunks. LOL.

Sure Buddy.. this board was raving about Zeke the whole first half of the season, telling us how he’s lost weight and is firing on all cylinders, hitting the hole like no tomorrow.

By mid-October, he was third in the NFL in yards at 452 yards and had 25 first downs and 5 TDs, second only to Derrick Henry. He also had 94 touches and zero fumbles.

He was averaging 5.3 YPC, which was the highest of his career.

And this is with the fewest carries he’s ever had since he’s been in the league. Which brings us to Zeke in the context of Pollard.

They play Zeke so much, because of his pass blocking or in play action, meaning against the 8 in the box. Through the first 114 snaps when Zeke was on the field, he touched it 27.2% of the time. They have effectively tried to exploit the passing game with the presence of Zeke and that’s been the way since they tried to be “Air Dak”. When Pollard was on the field for his first 41 snaps, he touched it 56% of the time.

So basically, just cut the blind homerism of this mediocre QB.

 

[Captain-Crash]

3 total games, two of them against the same opponent, prior to this game, going 18-18.

Basically dink and dunk against the Texans, going a whopping 3-3 only to punt and give the ball to the Texans who then scored, meaning they lost.

2 of them against the Eagles, one of them as a bus driver in 2017 when Zeke was dominating and teams were completely set on stuffing Zeke, the other ins 2018, further, meaning both against Jim Schwartz who never bothered to play anything but one safety man on the outside against Dak. The 2018 game was the infamous one where Amari bailed Dak out and had to yell at Dak to throw him the ball, becayse CBs we’re just sitting the routes with no safety help over the top.

One of those ‘accurate’ OT passes was his typical 1 read throw that never should have been made on a 3rd and 8, with the Db having clear inside possession and once again, no safety to even help and a lucky bounce after the defender hit it.

Bam. slaps the drunk stats guy

 

[khiladi]

Marino and Fouts never won Super Bowls because they had chronically awful defenses. Should we question their careers too?

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Dak stans are operating at the height of excises, to even mention these two legendary QBs with this mediocrity. I mean if homers said “we can win with this formula of perfect football everywhere around Dak”, we would be more understanding. But here we are, with this guy mentioned in the same breath as Marino and Fouts.

They didn’t have OLs and RGs either and played in an era where DBs could actually cover, spear over the middle, defenders could hit QBs including below the waist. Dak “fold under even slight pressure” would implode in that era. Linehan and Moore effectively took out the traditional 5-7 step drop-back for this guy, because he’s awful at it. Guys like Randall Cunningham could launch the ball 65 yards with the flick of a wrist were way more talented than him in every respect, including legs, and they couldn’t produce consistently in that era even with the defenses they had in Philly.

 

[khiladi]

We won with Cooper Rush playing his first game in four years. Even he got the ball to Amari 8 times for close up 120 yards, including the game winning TD with the same looks Dak has been seeing since 2016, meaning 8 men in the box. When you got good blocking and man coverage, it’s hard for any DB to stay with a WR, let alone one as talented as Amari. Even the stats indicate that Dak profited off man coverage when Amari came, but was still completely mediocre against zone, meaning zones in close games which that season was full of, not ones where defenses are playing garbage prevent while you multiple scores in the second half.

Dak stans we’re delusional after the Denver game claiming that was some ‘formula’ to beat us, but that’s been the formula for Dak since 2016. He sees more man than pretty much any ‘good’ QB in the league.

 

[Qcard]

We won with Cooper Rush playing his first game in four years. Even he got the ball to Amari 8 times for close up 120 yards, including the game winning TD with the same looks Dak has been seeing since 2016, meaning 8 men in the box. When you got good blocking and man coverage, it’s hard for any DB to stay with a WR, let alone one as talented as Amari. Even the stats indicate that Dak profited off man coverage when Amari came, but was still completely mediocre against zone, meaning zones in close games which that season was full of, not ones where defenses are playing garbage prevent while you multiple scores in the second half.

Dak stans we’re delusional after the Denver game claiming that was some ‘formula’ to beat us, but that’s been the formula for Dak since 2016. He sees more man than pretty much any ‘good’ QB in the league.

See Dak Haters are full drivel...with NO facts or links or stats to back up their IMAGINARY stats

Dakota's Stats against Man Coverage and Zone before Dallas lost Amari and Lamb.

The Stats haven't changed but Dak Haters always make up stuff

Read the article attached to the tweet @khiladi .. stop lying



No quarterback in the NFL has been more content to let the defense dictate his plan of attack than Prescott. If opponents want to sit back with two deep safeties and dare him to either check to a run play or hit a checkdown option for a short-to-medium gain, Dak will just keep doing exactly that over and over again.

 

[khiladi]

See Dak Haters are full drivel...with NO facts or links or stats to back up their IMAGINARY stats

Dakota's Stats against Man Coverage and Zone before Dallas lost Amari and Lamb.

The Stats haven't changed but Dak Haters always make up stuff

Read the article attached to the tweet @khiladi .. stop lying



No quarterback in the NFL has been more content to let the defense dictate his plan of attack than Prescott. If opponents want to sit back with two deep safeties and dare him to either check to a run play or hit a checkdown option for a short-to-medium gain, Dak will just keep doing exactly that over and over again.

You basically just repeated what I’ve been saying for years and you used one of my post that says it, while referencing an article in the post I referenced to say it..

even Cooper Rush took what the defense gave him, got the ball to Amari 8 times in man, and won..

Congratulations!

 

[Whirlwin]

Didn't miss a single pass in 4 OT games. It sucks the streak ended on Thanksgiving, but it's still notable. Apologies if this is common knowledge, it slid right by me.

@don_dougan - Here's an amazing stat. Dak Prescott has never thrown an incomplete pass in 4 career OT games. He's 18 of 18 for 214 yards, 11.9 yards per att, 3 GW TD's, 0 sacks & a 155.79 passer rating. Only loss at Hou when the #Cowboys punted on 4th & 1 from the Hou 42.
2:06 AM · Oct 18, 2021

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...-dak-prescott-player-of-the-game-2021-week-6/

17 fourth-quarter comebacks, for win. Let’s when games are won and lost. Prescott will said his feet. Making accurate throws and destroy the Saints

 

[Whirlwin]

Dak being clutch is a myth and a joke, obfuscated by the bus driver he was in 2016, when defense were being worn out by Zeke and Dak just had to take care of the ball.


Dak isn’t even in the league average “in tight games” at the point the article was written, meaning to begin this season. This idea he was bringing teams back in 2020 is a joke, because the similar 4th quarter situational stats were horrible as well, meaning defenses just tightened up and watched Dak become the check down Charlie he was, which is why he was throwing on average around 5 YPC. Even Dalton’s stats were better last year in those situations.

He’s not even on the same planet as Romo, let alone Mahomes, either..



Notice how he’s not even asking to be a drop back passer in these situations either.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/dak-prescott-clutch-4th-quarter-jerry-jones-cowboys-defense

The bus driver. The man responsible taking the team where it needs to go. The man responsible when a wheel comes off . He does whatever it takes to fix it. The bus driver. The man with the keys.

 

[Whirlwin]

Dak being clutch is a myth and a joke, obfuscated by the bus driver he was in 2016, when defense were being worn out by Zeke and Dak just had to take care of the ball.


Dak isn’t even in the league average “in tight games” at the point the article was written, meaning to begin this season. This idea he was bringing teams back in 2020 is a joke, because the similar 4th quarter situational stats were horrible as well, meaning defenses just tightened up and watched Dak become the check down Charlie he was, which is why he was throwing on average around 5 YPC. Even Dalton’s stats were better last year in those situations.

He’s not even on the same planet as Romo, let alone Mahomes, either..



Notice how he’s not even asking to be a drop back passer in these situations either.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/dak-prescott-clutch-4th-quarter-jerry-jones-cowboys-defense

17 fourth-quarter wins. No one is even close since he’s been in the league

 

[CWR]

17 fourth-quarter wins. No one is even close since he’s been in the league

Straight facial, go easy on him bro.