Randy Gregory Has 11 Tackles

[jazzcat22]

I am unapologetically one of these fans. Players earning big money can’t just be “decent”. Nor can they be other descriptions like “fine” or “the least of our problems”.

Players earning big money need to play great. We can get decent or fine out of JAGs near league minimum.

And that is fine to think that way, and I can't disagree. However, I guess what I was alluding too. Fans, and many on here believe they need to make a great play every play.
Other teams players get paid big money to do so always.
Plays happen on the other side of the field, yet someone posts...what was so and so doing just standing there....
That is more what I meant.

 

[JayFord]

You dont look at Tackles for a defensive end

you look at how he sets the edge on run plays and pressuring the qb then you look at sacks

tackles are nice and great but he's gotta set that edge on outside runs to force the ball carrier back inside for the LBs and safties to make the tackle

every play isnt for you to make....sometimes you are the set up guy

 

[fivetwos]

If we have any playoff success Gregory is going to be a very large part of it.

Period.

 

[xwalker]

That started when Jimmy Johnson didn't have many of BIG talented DL, so he started a rotation trying to wear down the Offensive lines with strength and quickness. Now most teams rotate the DL because of the success the Cowboys had in the early 90's.
If Jimmy would have had the DL talent that Landry had, he probably wouldn't have rotated them. Haley darn sure didn't rotate, but 270-300lb guys without the talent of Haley, and going against 330lb guys get worn down instead of the other way.

How many coaches in history have had talent equivalent to Randy White, Harvey Martin and Ed Too Tall Jones?

Just going back to 1980 and thinking about the best DLines, maybe the mid eighties Bears and the early nineties Eagles.

Anybody arguing against what Dan Quinn is just silly.

He transformed the worst defense in history into the best Cowboys defense in the past decade.

 

[xwalker]

Big difference...How many playmakers we're on that dl? Haley and? The line now has 2 known playmakers and a great lb and even he gets subbed out,those guys should never leave the field.

Another good reason to keep Parsons at LB...he is not in a rotation.

 

[exciter]

I get your point and I agree with you his primary role is not to get tackles it is to pressure the QB and he has done a good job at that. I think you cherry picked those two years with Cliff Avril who IMHO is a reasonable comp. If you look at his best years the 4 years before that with Detroit he would have averaged 35 tackles with 9 sacks. Much better production than Randy and he only got a 2 year 13 million dollar deal out of it. That would be fantastic if we could do the same with Randy even though I do feel like he should be more involved in stopping the run. Would love to get Dan Quinns take on the meaningless stat for a DE called tackles. My main issue is that people want to break the bank for a situational pass rusher with 6 years of poor production who is finally flashing a bit in a make or break contract year.

Avril was playing more of a traditional strong side DE role while in Detroit and he averaged 7 sacks, skewed by having 11 his last season there!

 

[Bowdown27]

Strange thing to glom onto. He also has 6 sacks, something like 15 QB hits, 3 FFs and an Interception. He is an impact player.

that was my thought. He missed a bunch of games and he’s not a linebacker like parsons who will accumulate my tackles. Odd choice for him to latch onto compared to the stats that you posted

 

[dacoming]

Is anyone else worried that we are gonna sink a lot of cap dollars into a 30 year old DE that can only muster 11 tackled in a make or break contract year?

Gregory is our best pass rusher behind Parsons and makes plays

 

[visionary]

42 million /year with 120 million guaranteed

 

[vicjagger]

Uh, thanks Jerry.

 

[Sheepherder]

Is anyone else worried that we are gonna sink a lot of cap dollars into a 30 year old DE that can only muster 11 tackled in a make or break contract year?

Your in a world by yourself on that one. Are you kidding? Did you watch the Washington game?

 

[sbark]

If we have any playoff success Gregory is going to be a very large part of it.

Period.

Yup
Thinking the game near mid season, he upped his intensity level and took it over
If he can do that in every playoff game....we got a chance
He had Charles Haley esque intensity...

 

[charron]

Nah we should avoid paying any player worth a dam because they might not live upto your expectations.

 

[gimmesix]

42 million /year with 120 million guaranteed

Bag of weed and a bong.

Too soon?

 

[jblaze2004]

i rather left him walk then sign him to a huge contract. He has ben proven unreliable. Most of his NFL years he has been hurt or suspended. Good when finally on the field but the problem is him being on the field. He should sign a very cap friendly deal for the cowboys otherwise I would pass.

 

[DuncanIso]

Is anyone else worried that we are gonna sink a lot of cap dollars into a 30 year old DE that can only muster 11 tackled in a make or break contract year?

He’s going to leave for FA $$$.

 

[DuncanIso]

i rather left him walk then sign him to a huge contract. He has ben proven unreliable. Most of his NFL years he has been hurt or suspended. Good when finally on the field but the problem is him being on the field. He should sign a very cap friendly deal for the cowboys otherwise I would pass.

he’s weak vs run.

 

[Bullflop]

Gregory is in his prime this year -- he hasn't had the wear and tear that most other DEs would have at 30 yrs. He's never been better. Combined with Lawrence and our improved run play from our defensive tackles, this revised defense is primed to be good for quite some time to come. We'll be fine.

 

[Dalmations202]

Bag of weed and a bong.

Too soon?

talk to Nate and get him a bale.

 

[Reality]

There is a big problem with fans looking at stats and forming their entire opinion based on whatever number the box score tells them.

No matter how good or bad someone is the numbers is all that matter.

Gregory has been incredible this year and an absolute game wrecker at times.

That is true for so many players in the league.

Teams stopped throwing at Deion, Revis, etc. so their stats went down. Running backs who are primarily used on goal line situations will hurt their YPC. Running backs who are used primarily on third downs will often have more passing yards.

Great defensive rushers will get double or even triple teamed. Cornerbacks covering great receivers will receive extra safety help. Great pass rushers will get chip-blocked often by running backs and tight-ends.

It is important to remember that teams gameplan around the best players on other teams which is why good teams typically have multiple ways they can beat you. That is why Belichick's primary defensive strategy has always been to take away what the other team does best.

Real player evaluation is based on what each player does when they get opportunities, not in their overall stats.

If the Cowboys did not have Amari Cooper, Lamb's stats would be higher. If the Cowboys did not have Elliott, Pollard's stats would be better.

It is not always about overall stats.