Twitter: Keanu Neal out

[MichiganCowboyFan]

What happened to Micah Parsons?

He's my best every down pass rusher. I want him going after #10 on an every down basis.

 

[FVSTONE]

What a waste this dude turned out being.

Thank you, today's players won't play hurt, whereas dudes from yesterday would strap it while leaving the emergency room 10 minutes after a surgery to set a bone in their leg or arm. Those dudes had heart and no trainer or sideline doctor was going to change their mind in a big game. Ask Emmit what it was like after the Giants dislocated his shoulder, he said put a bandage on it, I'm not coming out! It was probably one of the greatest signs of courage Maddon ever witnessed in football game

 

[Stash]

The injury I’m talking about is this week. Why so feisty? Arguing semantics doesn’t further discussion at all.

Maybe it was you using the term obtuse?

I guess your expectations were too high. If someone told me we are signing a guy week 2 of FA on a 1-year 5M dollar deal and we got 14 games of contributing snaps and got better at pass coverage on RB’s I’d say fine by me. This what you’re getting from these type guys, not a high quality borderline pro-bowler.

Maybe yours are too low?

Sheesh dude when did you get this disingenuous? You want me to look up and list literally every guy who signed a 5M dollar deal and present you with a thesis paper? I did my fair share of research and gave you two options. If you’d like to rebuttal/compare other players feel free to take time out of your day to do so.

I compare him to a signing line Keats. THAT GUY has not only met, but exceeded expectations.

Usually a discussion works both ways. If we are both engaging it’s both of our responsibilities to provide our own evidence. So far there’s been a lot of your opinion but no data or facts to back it up. If you don’t want to have a civil discussion about it then don’t respond. I was under the impression you wanted to have a normal convo about it, not that you wanted to try to be snarky about every little thing.

I’ll give you Kearse, Kazee, and Hooker. The three of them probably cost what Neal himself did.

And uh yeah realistic expectations are good not bad? Not sure why you’d expect a star or high caliber player out of a 1-year 5M dollar deal. You said yourself you didn’t even expect Kearse to make the team and that makes sense because of his price tag. But when the same logic is applied to Neal it’s wrong?

Kearse met and exceeded expectations. Neal underperformed his.

If you expected a guy making 1.1M to be cut, why expect a guy who’s 5M to be a high level player? He’s got the salary of a borderline starter/rotational contributor and that’s what he gave you. Not sure what you expected but objectively speaking due to price and recent performance it shouldn’t have been much more than what he gave us this year.

You prove my point. Kearse and others outperformed expectations while Neal failed to.

 

[CWR]

As if Neal was playing they would not run the ball?

Lol like their game plan was based around our 37th best player.

 

[links18]

Leighton Vander Esch and Luke Gifford are your starters. Look for the 49ers to run the ball.

Yikes!

 

[32BellyOption]

Leighton Vander Esch and Luke Gifford are your starters. Look for the 49ers to run the ball.

This is why it’s important for us to jump out to a lead. If we get a couple scores up they can’t just pound the ball. And besides, is losing Neal even a big deal?

 

[links18]

Officially injury prone?

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Leighton Vander Esch and Luke Gifford are your starters. Look for the 49ers to run the ball.

I’m not sure Neal made such a big difference here regardless

 

[817Gill]

Maybe it was you using the term obtuse?



Maybe yours are too low?



I compare him to a signing line Keats. THAT GUY has not only met, but exceeded expectations.



I’ll give you Kearse, Kazee, and Hooker. The three of them probably cost what Neal himself did.


Kearse met and exceeded expectations. Neal underperformed his.


You prove my point. Kearse and others outperformed expectations while Neal failed to.

Expectations for a guy on a 1-year 5M dollar deal are average starter/contributor/high snap count role player. Just because one guy blew expectations out of the water doesn’t mean the other who simply met them was a disappointment.

We’re going in circles here so this is my last response. If you expected more than what he gave then you were expecting too much. Don’t expect high level starter play from a 1-year 5M dollar FA because that’s not what that deal indicates.

Feel free to look up all the guys recently who signed similar deals, you’re getting that type production. Sure there are guys who exceed it, but by and large that’s what you get. If he disappointed you then I guess you held Keanu Neal to a higher standard than his contract indicated.

But hey I’m not related to the guy so have at it, glad to see most of the thread didn’t feel that way; would’ve been unnecessary as his contract was one that didn’t really tell us he’d be a high end player. We paid average and got average, it is what it is.

 

[Cowboyny]

Leighton Vander Esch and Luke Gifford are your starters. Look for the 49ers to run the ball.[/QUOTE

Parsons was going to play more LB this week anyway due to the opponent. He will still get opportunities to rush in obvious passing situations. They will be just fine

 

[Star Guard_31]

I don’t get all the Neal hate. He was a solid stop gap free agent acquisition. He shouldn’t be a longterm starter, but his presence allowed time for Jabril Cox to acclimate to the NFL without pressure to produce right away.

On his worst day he was better than Jaylon Smith and LVE on their best days.

 

[Stash]

Expectations for a guy on a 1-year 5M dollar deal are average starter/contributor/high snap count role player. Just because one guy blew expectations out of the water doesn’t mean the other who simply met them was a disappointment.

I’m glad that you think ‘your expectations’ are the standard.

We’re going in circles here so this is my last response. If you expected more than what he gave then you were expecting too much. Don’t expect high level starter play from a 1-year 5M dollar FA because that’s not what that deal indicates.

Don’t try to tell anyone else what their expectations should be. Or to ignorantly think that yours are the standard.

Feel free to look up all the guys recently who signed similar deals, you’re getting that type production. Sure there are guys who exceed it, but by and large that’s what you get. If he disappointed you then I guess you held Keanu Neal to a higher standard than his contract indicated.

But hey I’m not related to the guy so have at it, glad to see most of the thread didn’t feel that way; would’ve been unnecessary as his contract was one that didn’t really tell us he’d be a high end player. We paid average and got average, it is what it is.

Or so you think.

 

[slick325]

I'd much rather have Neal available than him being out. I wish Dallas had all of their starters available for the playoffs, Gallup included.

Next man up this week. Hope they win and he will be able to play if they advance.

 

[MapleLeaf]

In a podcast Broadus hinted that Neal's year was affected quite a bit by his first bout with COVID. According to him he never looked the same as he did in training camp.

 

[buybuydandavis]

We unfortunately need LVE to play without hesitation, ( in pre injury mode) .More Wilson near LOS , then . But tackling needs to be precise.

Big game for Bernard and Gifford to show up.

The reviews on LVE have been very positive in the last few games. He's turned a corner. More like what he showed as a rookie.

 

[buybuydandavis]

In a podcast Broadus hinted that Neal's year was affected quite a bit by his first bout with COVID. According to him he never looked the same as he did in training camp.

I'm surprised this hasn't been *more* of an issue. Lots of people have lingering long term cardiovascular damage from Covid. I would have thought it would show up *even more* in pro athletes, where they're all elite athletes, and a tiny knock on their cardiovascular system would quickly drop them out of that elite status.

 

[black label]

lve for the loss rofl

 

[lqmac1]

What a waste this dude turned out being.

No **** man! They might need to move him back to safety, he ain’t done **** as a linebacker. I was kind of excited when we signed him.

 

[xwalker]

Leighton Vander Esch and Luke Gifford are your starters. Look for the 49ers to run the ball.

Neal and LVE don't play together...they alternate.

 

[Teague31]

No big loss. I want Kearse and Wilson in the box.