Ref Crew from Bengals/Raiders Game Expected to be Benched

[MarcusRock]

There was no reason for the whistle to begin with because he was clearly not out of bounds when he threw the ball. The rules guy doing the telecast knew rather quickly what the correct ruling should have been, seems like "New York" should have known and corrected it.

So why didn't New York buzz-in to avoid this obvious mistake? The whole system is broken.

There are only certain categories where New York can chime in and an inadvertent whistle isn't one of them.

RULE 15 INSTANT REPLAY
SECTION 1 INITIATING A REPLAY REVIEW
ARTICLE 2. REPLAY OFFICIAL REQUEST FOR REVIEW. Only the Replay Official or the Senior Vice President of Officiating
or his or her designee may initiate a review of a play:
(a) that begins after the two-minute warning of each half;
(b) throughout any overtime period;
(c) when points are scored by either team;
(d) that is a Try attempt (successful or unsuccessful); and
(e) when on-field officials rule:

(1) an interception by an opponent;
(2) a fumble or backward pass recovered by an opponent or that goes out of bounds through the opponent’s end zone;
(3) a scrimmage kick touched by the receiving team and recovered by the kicking team; or
(4) a disqualification of a player.​

Such plays may be reviewed regardless of whether a foul is committed on the play that, if accepted, would negate the on-field
ruling.

The Replay Official may only challenge a play until the next legal snap or kick. The Replay Official may consult with a
designated member of the Officiating department at the league office regarding whether to challenge a play.​

And there's this in the same rule:

SECTION 4 NON-REVIEWABLE PLAYS
The following aspects of plays are not reviewable:
(a) Whether an erroneous whistle sounded;
(b) Whether a ball was illegally batted or kicked;
(c) Whether a passer intentionally grounded a pass;
(d) Whether an ineligible receiver was downfield before a pass;
(e) Whether a receiver was illegally contacted;
(f) The spot of a loose ball crossing the sideline;
(g) Whether a block was illegal; and
(h) Any aspect of a play not listed as reviewable in Section 3 of this Rule.​

 

[KJJ]

So much for the fans on this board that say NFL officials aren’t held accountable.

 

[zrinkill]

Good ....... he is one of the refs that wants the game to be about him.

 

[zrinkill]

So much for the fans on this board that say NFL officials aren’t held accountable.

First time I have seen it .......... about time.

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

They lost by 7

I don’t won’t to keep talking about this but we should understand that, yes a whistle was blown which means the play is dead as soon as it’s blown. The ball was infight to the receiver when the whistle blow, meaning no touchdown. BUT, there should never have been a whistle in the first place, so to me justice was done! Nothing on that play called for a whistle, inadvertent whistles has caused plenty of plays to not materialize in the past. It’s a shame but it’s happens.

It just doesn’t make sense to blow a whistle in what was happening. The refs blows whistles to alert players to stop as the play is no longer in play, it’s there to protect players. The QB throw the ball as he jumped out of bounds, while out of bounds no defender continued to go after the QB (that would be the only reason to kill the play), so why blow it.

 

[lukin2006]

I'm going to be irate if they replace that crew with Hochuli's crew...

shouldn’t need to replace the crew…less crews needed next week. The NFL did not really do anything…it’s just looks good for their image without really punishing these refs…who should be terminated.

 

[KJJ]

First time I have seen it .......... about time.

It’s happened before. NFL officials have been fired.

 

[JustChip]

Raiders fans will be talking about this for years on the RaidersZone…..

Right, just like we would. But that errant whistle did not impact that play. Verily, the TD shouldn’t have counted, but the Raiders didn’t stop playing based on that whistle and that’s not why the pass was completed. It would be unforgivable if that wasn’t the case.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Personally I didn’t see that play as a big deal. The ball was clearly in the air when the whistle blew and the receiver was wide open before the whistle blew. I don’t think it affected the play at all. It was a split second. That throw was going to be a TD whether there was a whistle or not. I agree it was “technically” a blown call by the officials, but I just don’t think it affected the play.

 

[DoctorChicken]

At least there's some accountability being shown.

 

[NumOneQB]

They need to bench Hocule and his sorry *** crew. The Dallas-Raiders game was the worst officiated game I’ve watched all year.

 

[JohnsKey19]

There are only certain categories where New York can chime in and an inadvertent whistle isn't one of them.

RULE 15 INSTANT REPLAY
SECTION 1 INITIATING A REPLAY REVIEW
ARTICLE 2. REPLAY OFFICIAL REQUEST FOR REVIEW. Only the Replay Official or the Senior Vice President of Officiating
or his or her designee may initiate a review of a play:
(a) that begins after the two-minute warning of each half;
(b) throughout any overtime period;
(c) when points are scored by either team;
(d) that is a Try attempt (successful or unsuccessful); and
(e) when on-field officials rule:

(1) an interception by an opponent;
(2) a fumble or backward pass recovered by an opponent or that goes out of bounds through the opponent’s end zone;
(3) a scrimmage kick touched by the receiving team and recovered by the kicking team; or
(4) a disqualification of a player.​

Such plays may be reviewed regardless of whether a foul is committed on the play that, if accepted, would negate the on-field
ruling.

The Replay Official may only challenge a play until the next legal snap or kick. The Replay Official may consult with a
designated member of the Officiating department at the league office regarding whether to challenge a play.​

And there's this in the same rule:

SECTION 4 NON-REVIEWABLE PLAYS
The following aspects of plays are not reviewable:
(a) Whether an erroneous whistle sounded;
(b) Whether a ball was illegally batted or kicked;
(c) Whether a passer intentionally grounded a pass;
(d) Whether an ineligible receiver was downfield before a pass;
(e) Whether a receiver was illegally contacted;
(f) The spot of a loose ball crossing the sideline;
(g) Whether a block was illegal; and
(h) Any aspect of a play not listed as reviewable in Section 3 of this Rule.​

Thanks.

Makes perfect sense to sit and watch your officials royally screw up a scoring play in a playoff game.

 

[McKDaddy]

That 1 second prematurely blown whistle would not have prevented the TD. The nearest DB to the WR who caught the TD was at least 3-4 yards away, not close enough to disrupt the catch.

Agreed. It would have been unjust to take the play away just because some dingus blew a whistle a quarter second too early.

 

[panchucko]

Raiders fans will be talking about this for years on the RaidersZone…..

This and the tuck rule are hot on their minds

 

[MarcusRock]

Agreed. It would have been unjust to take the play away just because some dingus blew a whistle a quarter second too early.

But that's the rule. It was unjust to let it stand. The fact they let it stand after a discussion is absurd.

RULE 7 BALL IN PLAY, DEAD BALL, SCRIMMAGE
SECTION 2 DEAD BALL
ARTICLE 1. DEAD BALL DECLARED.
.
.
(m) when an official sounds the whistle erroneously while the ball is still in play, the ball becomes dead immediately;

(1) If the ball is in player possession, the team in possession may elect to put the ball in play where it has been declared
dead or to replay the down.
(2) If the ball is a loose ball resulting from a fumble, backward pass, or illegal forward pass, the team last in possession may
elect to put the ball in play at the spot where possession was lost or to replay the down.
(3) If the ball is a loose ball resulting from a legal forward pass, a free kick, a fair-catch kick, or a scrimmage kick, the ball is
returned to the previous spot, and the down is replayed.
(4) If there is a foul by either team during any of the above, and the team in possession at the time of the erroneous whistle
elects not to replay the down, penalty enforcement is the same as for fouls during a run, forward pass, kick, fumble, and
backward pass. If the team in possession elects to replay the down, all penalties will be disregarded, except for personal
fouls and unsportsmanlike conduct fouls, which will be administered prior to the replaying of the down. If the down is
replayed, the game clock will be reset to the time remaining when the snap occurred, and the clock will start on the snap.​

 

[JayFord]

really?

the NFL finally punishing refs and admitting they make mistakes?!

this is truly a good day

 

[Mannix]

With all the eyes watching the Cowboys maybe the refs will be on point after the NFL held one crew accountable.

ahahahaha.....honesty.....NFL.....hahahahahahaha

 

[McKDaddy]

But that's the rule.

I get your point & if it had affected the Raiders defense I would agree. In this case all it would have done was negated a very nice play by Burrow. They did nothing to deserve punishment nor did the Raiders deserve a reprieve. The play on the field decided the game as it should have.

 

[DripTooHard]

All the analyst were in agreement the down should have been replayed. Yet they ignored the rules? How is that ok? How is that OK for the Raiders? Or there fans…

Refs needs to be held accountable, much more accountable…

It was the Raiders tho.

 

[rags]

Gee. I wonder why.