I'm Starting to Turn to the Dark Side

Jake

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We are repeatedly outcoached and never out coach an opponent. EVER.

How is that? Maybe let's look at the guy who hires these coaches and gets it wrong again and again.

When the first criteria is the head coach's comfort level with how the owner/GM runs the organization, you get what we've gotten.

We don't get first-time HCs (Gailey, Campo, JG) and retreads no other team has given another chance (Wade, Mike) by accident.
 

Reid1boys

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Aaron Rodgers was a big MVP favorite and Bam one and done. Stop pretending Dak is the only problem with this team.

Also, we (and GB) lost to a team with Jimmy G as QB. That in and of itself is telling about your assumption

What was the lowest scoring game of both weekends of the playoffs? Ive not looked it up, but it is a safe bet it was this weekends Niners GB game. Why do you think that was? You think it was those great defenses of those two teams?
 

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What does playing with unity mean? Did the Bucs play with "Unity?' Do the Bills? they lost? Did the Chiefs win because of "Unity?"
You know it when you see it. It’s a team that seems to play on the same page understanding their assignments both individually and as a team. Cowboys are more of an individual team. Individual highly talented players who havent come together as a unit. If you don’t know what ot looks like? It’s the 49ers right now. Yes, the other teams mentioned do a better job then. The cowboys.

The Cowboys are a team that loads up with a lot of talent. For the past couple of decades. Every year “the Cowboys have the best offensive line football“. Well they definitely don’t play like it. But that’s all we ever hear. The Cowboys throw a bunch of talent on the field and yes it’s good, but if it doesn’t know how to play together as a unit, it turns out like it does every year. One and done
 

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When the first criteria is the head coach's comfort level with how the owner/GM runs the organization, you get what we've gotten.

We don't get first-time HCs (Gailey, Campo, JG) and retreads no other team has given another chance (Wade, Mike) by accident.
Yep, and two HOF coaches run out of town.

Don't be trying to steal Jerry's spotlight.
 

JayFord

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I wont turn to the darkside

i will however call out what i see

fix the penalties and you can win big time games, you cant win anything when you commit 14 penalties and 7 of them on big plays

i have this rule where i dont celebrate any big plays or touchdowns until the next play is run because im waiting for a flag and 60% of the time i get the flag

if it were any other team besides san fran we probably lose 40-14
 

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What was the lowest scoring game of both weekends of the playoffs? Ive not looked it up, but it is a safe bet it was this weekends Niners GB game. Why do you think that was? You think it was those great defenses of those two teams?
So Dak is better than Rodgers since we scored 17 and they scored 10? Football doesn't follow these little oversimplified generalizations you put forth in this thread
 

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The people that post here on a regular basis are Cowboys fans.

EVERY last one of them.

It's sanctimonious to say otherwise , but that does fit with the "I'm a better fan than you " them thst permeates this forum...
 

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Been telling you so since 2016, Dak isnt the one.
 

MoistMayonnaise

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I have come to expect nothing of this team. A win or loss is nowhere indicative of what they did the week before or what they will do the week after. No consistency from players or coaches. We are good as beating up bad teams but as soon as there is some fight in an opponent we fold.

Frustrating.
 

Reid1boys

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So Dak is better than Rodgers since we scored 17 and they scored 10? Football doesn't follow these little oversimplified generalizations you put forth in this thread
absolutely it doesnt... thats why you look at a LARGE sample size of games. You cant point to one game and say hey, Nick Foles won a SB, so see , that proves you dont need a HOF qb to win a sb. Hey, the Bucs D stopped an INJURED Mahomes last year, so that proves "Defense wins Championships."
 

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Welcome to the dark side, aka The Far Side because pissed offed posters are just funnier than the Pollyannas.

When I was on the old DC.com site, this came up quite often, and we were only 22 years into the futility of it all, so they created an area just for the posters that wanted to be positive called Silver Linings. The crickets wouldn't even go there because it wasn't entertaining or interesting.

Truly positive people need the negative side to confirm their beliefs while the not as really positive as they want to be begin to question their positivity.

These forums, all of them, have posters that come to mess with others as well as those that come to purge and vent and feel better.

Many on both sides are guilty of letting it denigrate in to arguing with the poster instead of debating the feeling or thought. Not everyone that brings up negative feelings is trying to bring someone else down, they might be looking for others to lift them up.

If it gets too bad, you do have the Ignore feature. Personally, I've never used it, I wouldn't give anyone that satisfaction of knowing they got to me. And I've got some that just flat don't like me and that's OK because I am not here for them, I am here for the others.
 

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I have come to expect nothing of this team. A win or loss is nowhere indicative of what they did the week before or what they will do the week after. No consistency from players or coaches. We are good as beating up bad teams but as soon as there is some fight in an opponent we fold.

Frustrating.
Managing expectations manages frustrations. I have found it best to remain fluid with this franchise and try not to get too high or too low.

It helps if one accepts the reality of this situation. We are all fans of the most unusual sports team quite possibly in history. Not even Davis or Steinbrenner tried to become the face of their franchise. Dysfunction at the top trickles down. The really frustrating part is that there are no consequences that can bring about change. It just keeps getting the ratings and the revenue while achieving very little, it is the sports anomaly of the ages.
 

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Managing expectations manages frustrations. I have found it best to remain fluid with this franchise and try not to get too high or too low.

It helps if one accepts the reality of this situation. We are all fans of the most unusual sports team quite possibly in history. Not even Davis or Steinbrenner tried to become the face of their franchise. Dysfunction at the top trickles down. The really frustrating part is that there are no consequences that can bring about change. It just keeps getting the ratings and the revenue while achieving very little, it is the sports anomaly of the ages.

Well said.
 

SultanOfSix

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I'm on the "Meh Side" now.

It's like a guy eating popcorn while the Jedi and Sith fight it out but not really caring either way.
 

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I'm on the "Meh Side" now.

It's like a guy eating popcorn while the Jedi and Sith fight it out but not really caring either way.

Pretty much where I am too. I also realized being at the game enabled me to see how many times a receiver was wide open that Dak completely missed or didn't even see alot more than you normally see on TV unless you go back and watch the all-22. There were a few times he had wide open TD's that he just didn't go to.
 

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I certainly don't agree with the delight many on this forum take in rubbing the team's failure in the faces of their supposed fellow fans. It wouldn't surprise me if a select few of this forums celebrity Negative Nancy's are actually Eagles fans. That said, I've finally started to see that many of the points you guys have made about Jerry, Dak, and McCarthy are true. I work in healthcare finance and one of the key principles in my job is that you can't ignore trends. If something happens over and over then it's usually more the norm than an outlier. I have been a big fan of Jerry and Dak, and have been a very hopeful and optimistic fan even though the team hasn't been to an NFCC since I was 7.

I'm not sure if it's because I actually went to the game and spent alot of hard-earned money on seats only to witness Dak miss throws, McCarthy and Moore be completely out-schemed and out-coached, or if it's because I'm staring down another long offseason after yet another one-and-done-in-the-playoffs season, but I've finally reached my breaking point and am ready to acknowledge that Jerry's ego and his inability to get out of the coaches way and hire anything other than "yes men" has doomed this team having any hope of real success. Between forcing OL/RB personnel, interfering with how Kellen calls games, etc., he and Stephen have certainly created a too many hands in the cookie jar situation, and I can certainly see how no great coach would want to work for someone like that. I've grown in my career under bosses that let me spread my wings and do things my way while giving me support and guidance, and have wanted to get away from micro-managers as quickly as possible. So, it's pretty obvious why no coach worth their salt would want to be told they have to start Collins at RT, they had to play Zeke over Pollard, etc. Hell, I'm even more shocked they cut Jaylon after the way they kept ramming their heads into the wall with their personnel decisions seemingly all made by Jerry and Stephen.

Dak is harder for me to wrap my head around. I genuinely felt like he was improving and starting to play like the best QB's in the league. He was confident, making great reads and throws, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how he fell off so fast. He seemed like he could run fine vs. SF and so I can't attribute his shakiness to the calf. He just seemed like he had no confidence in himself, his OL, or his receivers. Out of all of the things I listed I do still feel like Dak can turn it around, but I acknowledge that he's going to need some help that I'm not sure he's going to get. With Amari seemingly on the outs with the Jones' I'm very worried about this offense with an aging Zeke and no Amari and an OL that needs rebuilding in the middle. I'm not sure if Ceedee has shown true dominant #1 potential. It really felt like this year was the best year to make a run and the team fell flat on their faces.

It's taken me a while but now I really understand why many of you are glass half empty when it comes to this team. I'll always be a die hard fan but I probably won't drink any Kool Aid until they actually make an NFCC and play consistently. I'll always hope for the best but will prepare for the worst, and it's sad that "America's Team" makes me feel like that.


I'm as baffled as you are on why Dak has simply gone down the deep end. He has gone back to his old ways of passing the ball and seems a split second behind and a split second late on his passes. I think everything started in the lost to Denver where they just couldn't get the run game going. It also seems that they didn't want Dak to be running with the ball. I'm not sure. But it just seems that the entire offense has reverted back to the more simplified "Garrett" offense that we all hated this past years.

I really like Dak. But there were many times he had one on one coverage on the outside and/or had a man open deep and opted for the safe dump off pass even without pressure. I think that Denver game really got to him and now he is in a slump. He really needs to just get over it but McCarthy/Moore duo isn't much help.
 

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This isnt Hard... Bengals sucked, got Joe B and bam... conference title game.

Bills sucked, Got Allen, Bam... legit SB contender that has ran into the best QB in the league the last 2 years.

Chiefs...were a solid team, but never gonna see a SB. Got Mahomes, wala, 4 straight AFC title games, and IMO, about to be in 3 straight super bowls.

Bucs, sucked for 11 straight seasons, got Brady, bam... SB win.


99% of our roster and coaches are good enough to get to the SB, we just dont have any of the above mentioned guys.


Do you honestly think the Bucs and Bills just happend to develop a full roster and they landed great coaches at the same time as getting their QB?
I agree with you but the Bills and the Chiefs really lucked out with Mahomes and Allen. Heck, even the Pats lucked out with getting Brady. No one thought those 3 qbs would pan out the way they have. Finding a good qb these days is hard and it is a crap shoot in the draft. Can't miss products are missed products and players who no one thought would be good are now elite. Nobody really know how some of these players are going to pan out. I mean Trevor Lawrence is suppose to be the best qb prospect to come out since Luck and he did not have that good of a year although he was playing for the Jags. I think sometimes calculated luck helps.

Its not Mike... although Ive never liked him.
 

The Fonz

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welcome with an open arms glad you are seeing the lights
now change that avatar:)
 

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Dallas will never achieve more than an NFCE champion.

Learn it
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