I'm Starting to Turn to the Dark Side

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Don't go. We'll always have the early 90s.

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I certainly don't agree with the delight many on this forum take in rubbing the team's failure in the faces of their supposed fellow fans. It wouldn't surprise me if a select few of this forums celebrity Negative Nancy's are actually Eagles fans. That said, I've finally started to see that many of the points you guys have made about Jerry, Dak, and McCarthy are true. I work in healthcare finance and one of the key principles in my job is that you can't ignore trends. If something happens over and over then it's usually more the norm than an outlier. I have been a big fan of Jerry and Dak, and have been a very hopeful and optimistic fan even though the team hasn't been to an NFCC since I was 7.

I'm not sure if it's because I actually went to the game and spent alot of hard-earned money on seats only to witness Dak miss throws, McCarthy and Moore be completely out-schemed and out-coached, or if it's because I'm staring down another long offseason after yet another one-and-done-in-the-playoffs season, but I've finally reached my breaking point and am ready to acknowledge that Jerry's ego and his inability to get out of the coaches way and hire anything other than "yes men" has doomed this team having any hope of real success. Between forcing OL/RB personnel, interfering with how Kellen calls games, etc., he and Stephen have certainly created a too many hands in the cookie jar situation, and I can certainly see how no great coach would want to work for someone like that. I've grown in my career under bosses that let me spread my wings and do things my way while giving me support and guidance, and have wanted to get away from micro-managers as quickly as possible. So, it's pretty obvious why no coach worth their salt would want to be told they have to start Collins at RT, they had to play Zeke over Pollard, etc. Hell, I'm even more shocked they cut Jaylon after the way they kept ramming their heads into the wall with their personnel decisions seemingly all made by Jerry and Stephen.

Dak is harder for me to wrap my head around. I genuinely felt like he was improving and starting to play like the best QB's in the league. He was confident, making great reads and throws, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how he fell off so fast. He seemed like he could run fine vs. SF and so I can't attribute his shakiness to the calf. He just seemed like he had no confidence in himself, his OL, or his receivers. Out of all of the things I listed I do still feel like Dak can turn it around, but I acknowledge that he's going to need some help that I'm not sure he's going to get. With Amari seemingly on the outs with the Jones' I'm very worried about this offense with an aging Zeke and no Amari and an OL that needs rebuilding in the middle. I'm not sure if Ceedee has shown true dominant #1 potential. It really felt like this year was the best year to make a run and the team fell flat on their faces.

It's taken me a while but now I really understand why many of you are glass half empty when it comes to this team. I'll always be a die hard fan but I probably won't drink any Kool Aid until they actually make an NFCC and play consistently. I'll always hope for the best but will prepare for the worst, and it's sad that "America's Team" makes me feel like that.
Thank you for the nice post, but to answer your question as to why, or the time line on why Dak slipped, one only has to dial back to the Broncos game.
They set the blueprint on exactly how to set Dak up to fail, and the rest of the league followed Denvers lead.
It was fairly obvious, but thats usually the point in the season when good coaches that value film review start to expose major weaknesses from opponents.
Denver exposed Dak.
 

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Thank you for the nice post, but to answer your question as to why, or the time line on why Dak slipped, one only has to dial back to the Broncos game.
They set the blueprint on exactly how to set Dak up to fail, and the rest of the league followed Denvers lead.
It was fairly obvious, but thats usually the point in the season when good coaches that value film review start to expose major weaknesses from opponents.
Denver exposed Dak.
It’s much more complex than this. But yes, the league figured out the Dallas offense and nobody, Dak included, could figure out how to adjust.
 

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It’s much more complex than this. But yes, the league figured out the Dallas offense and nobody, Dak included, could figure out how to adjust.
Agree with you on this part.
But it wasnt ever that complex.
 

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I think what Denver did and what other copied was rather counter intuitive. The old mantra was to beat the Cowboys, you stop the run. Maybe blitz. Denver went the exact opposite way. They kept minimal people in the box, rushed 4 and put a ton of people in coverage against medium routes while disguising the scheme.

I'm not a huge Dak fan but a lot of the reason why this worked was because Zeke couldn't beat 6 and 7 man boxes. If teams had tried this defense a few years ago, the Cowboys would have mauled it picking up 6 yards at a time.
 

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I certainly don't agree with the delight many on this forum take in rubbing the team's failure in the faces of their supposed fellow fans. It wouldn't surprise me if a select few of this forums celebrity Negative Nancy's are actually Eagles fans. That said, I've finally started to see that many of the points you guys have made about Jerry, Dak, and McCarthy are true. I work in healthcare finance and one of the key principles in my job is that you can't ignore trends. If something happens over and over then it's usually more the norm than an outlier. I have been a big fan of Jerry and Dak, and have been a very hopeful and optimistic fan even though the team hasn't been to an NFCC since I was 7.

I'm not sure if it's because I actually went to the game and spent alot of hard-earned money on seats only to witness Dak miss throws, McCarthy and Moore be completely out-schemed and out-coached, or if it's because I'm staring down another long offseason after yet another one-and-done-in-the-playoffs season, but I've finally reached my breaking point and am ready to acknowledge that Jerry's ego and his inability to get out of the coaches way and hire anything other than "yes men" has doomed this team having any hope of real success. Between forcing OL/RB personnel, interfering with how Kellen calls games, etc., he and Stephen have certainly created a too many hands in the cookie jar situation, and I can certainly see how no great coach would want to work for someone like that. I've grown in my career under bosses that let me spread my wings and do things my way while giving me support and guidance, and have wanted to get away from micro-managers as quickly as possible. So, it's pretty obvious why no coach worth their salt would want to be told they have to start Collins at RT, they had to play Zeke over Pollard, etc. Hell, I'm even more shocked they cut Jaylon after the way they kept ramming their heads into the wall with their personnel decisions seemingly all made by Jerry and Stephen.

Dak is harder for me to wrap my head around. I genuinely felt like he was improving and starting to play like the best QB's in the league. He was confident, making great reads and throws, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how he fell off so fast. He seemed like he could run fine vs. SF and so I can't attribute his shakiness to the calf. He just seemed like he had no confidence in himself, his OL, or his receivers. Out of all of the things I listed I do still feel like Dak can turn it around, but I acknowledge that he's going to need some help that I'm not sure he's going to get. With Amari seemingly on the outs with the Jones' I'm very worried about this offense with an aging Zeke and no Amari and an OL that needs rebuilding in the middle. I'm not sure if Ceedee has shown true dominant #1 potential. It really felt like this year was the best year to make a run and the team fell flat on their faces.

It's taken me a while but now I really understand why many of you are glass half empty when it comes to this team. I'll always be a die hard fan but I probably won't drink any Kool Aid until they actually make an NFCC and play consistently. I'll always hope for the best but will prepare for the worst, and it's sad that "America's Team" makes me feel like that.

I would say you are becoming "enlightened".....seen the real truth and not the truth Jerry wants you to see. That is the Dark Side.
 

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I wont turn to the darkside

i will however call out what i see

fix the penalties and you can win big time games, you cant win anything when you commit 14 penalties and 7 of them on big plays

i have this rule where i dont celebrate any big plays or touchdowns until the next play is run because im waiting for a flag and 60% of the time i get the flag

if it were any other team besides san fran we probably lose 40-14
I watch the bills in Kansas City game the other night. And it dawned on me that I was watching big play after big play after big plate and no penalties. Very quiet. I had become conditioned to watching the Cowboys games were literally every other play there is a flag. I do think there is a conspiracy with the refs against the Cowboys especially down the stretch. Way too many sketchy calls. And not just too many calls, calls made at critical times that were the equivalent of turnovers.
 

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I watch the bills in Kansas City game the other night. And it dawned on me that I was watching big play after big play after big plate and no penalties. Very quiet. I had become conditioned to watching the Cowboys games were literally every other play there is a flag. I do think there is a conspiracy with the refs against the Cowboys especially down the stretch. Way too many sketchy calls. And not just too many calls, calls made at critical times that were the equivalent of turnovers.
It was actually everywhere, the game controlling calls.

For some odd reason, this year the manipulating calls stopped w/ the final 4. Don't know why, but it did.
 

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I certainly don't agree with the delight many on this forum take in rubbing the team's failure in the faces of their supposed fellow fans. It wouldn't surprise me if a select few of this forums celebrity Negative Nancy's are actually Eagles fans. That said, I've finally started to see that many of the points you guys have made about Jerry, Dak, and McCarthy are true. I work in healthcare finance and one of the key principles in my job is that you can't ignore trends. If something happens over and over then it's usually more the norm than an outlier. I have been a big fan of Jerry and Dak, and have been a very hopeful and optimistic fan even though the team hasn't been to an NFCC since I was 7.

I'm not sure if it's because I actually went to the game and spent alot of hard-earned money on seats only to witness Dak miss throws, McCarthy and Moore be completely out-schemed and out-coached, or if it's because I'm staring down another long offseason after yet another one-and-done-in-the-playoffs season, but I've finally reached my breaking point and am ready to acknowledge that Jerry's ego and his inability to get out of the coaches way and hire anything other than "yes men" has doomed this team having any hope of real success. Between forcing OL/RB personnel, interfering with how Kellen calls games, etc., he and Stephen have certainly created a too many hands in the cookie jar situation, and I can certainly see how no great coach would want to work for someone like that. I've grown in my career under bosses that let me spread my wings and do things my way while giving me support and guidance, and have wanted to get away from micro-managers as quickly as possible. So, it's pretty obvious why no coach worth their salt would want to be told they have to start Collins at RT, they had to play Zeke over Pollard, etc. Hell, I'm even more shocked they cut Jaylon after the way they kept ramming their heads into the wall with their personnel decisions seemingly all made by Jerry and Stephen.

Dak is harder for me to wrap my head around. I genuinely felt like he was improving and starting to play like the best QB's in the league. He was confident, making great reads and throws, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how he fell off so fast. He seemed like he could run fine vs. SF and so I can't attribute his shakiness to the calf. He just seemed like he had no confidence in himself, his OL, or his receivers. Out of all of the things I listed I do still feel like Dak can turn it around, but I acknowledge that he's going to need some help that I'm not sure he's going to get. With Amari seemingly on the outs with the Jones' I'm very worried about this offense with an aging Zeke and no Amari and an OL that needs rebuilding in the middle. I'm not sure if Ceedee has shown true dominant #1 potential. It really felt like this year was the best year to make a run and the team fell flat on their faces.

It's taken me a while but now I really understand why many of you are glass half empty when it comes to this team. I'll always be a die hard fan but I probably won't drink any Kool Aid until they actually make an NFCC and play consistently. I'll always hope for the best but will prepare for the worst, and it's sad that "America's Team" makes me feel like that.
The pattern has been the same for over 25 years. When Jerry got rid of Jimmy and took control of football operations it's been the same. Jerry is a great business man, but he can't build a championship team. It wont change while Jerry is running things. The bad thing is his son probably wont be any better.
 

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I certainly don't agree with the delight many on this forum take in rubbing the team's failure in the faces of their supposed fellow fans. It wouldn't surprise me if a select few of this forums celebrity Negative Nancy's are actually Eagles fans. That said, I've finally started to see that many of the points you guys have made about Jerry, Dak, and McCarthy are true. I work in healthcare finance and one of the key principles in my job is that you can't ignore trends. If something happens over and over then it's usually more the norm than an outlier. I have been a big fan of Jerry and Dak, and have been a very hopeful and optimistic fan even though the team hasn't been to an NFCC since I was 7.

I'm not sure if it's because I actually went to the game and spent alot of hard-earned money on seats only to witness Dak miss throws, McCarthy and Moore be completely out-schemed and out-coached, or if it's because I'm staring down another long offseason after yet another one-and-done-in-the-playoffs season, but I've finally reached my breaking point and am ready to acknowledge that Jerry's ego and his inability to get out of the coaches way and hire anything other than "yes men" has doomed this team having any hope of real success. Between forcing OL/RB personnel, interfering with how Kellen calls games, etc., he and Stephen have certainly created a too many hands in the cookie jar situation, and I can certainly see how no great coach would want to work for someone like that. I've grown in my career under bosses that let me spread my wings and do things my way while giving me support and guidance, and have wanted to get away from micro-managers as quickly as possible. So, it's pretty obvious why no coach worth their salt would want to be told they have to start Collins at RT, they had to play Zeke over Pollard, etc. Hell, I'm even more shocked they cut Jaylon after the way they kept ramming their heads into the wall with their personnel decisions seemingly all made by Jerry and Stephen.

Dak is harder for me to wrap my head around. I genuinely felt like he was improving and starting to play like the best QB's in the league. He was confident, making great reads and throws, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how he fell off so fast. He seemed like he could run fine vs. SF and so I can't attribute his shakiness to the calf. He just seemed like he had no confidence in himself, his OL, or his receivers. Out of all of the things I listed I do still feel like Dak can turn it around, but I acknowledge that he's going to need some help that I'm not sure he's going to get. With Amari seemingly on the outs with the Jones' I'm very worried about this offense with an aging Zeke and no Amari and an OL that needs rebuilding in the middle. I'm not sure if Ceedee has shown true dominant #1 potential. It really felt like this year was the best year to make a run and the team fell flat on their faces.

It's taken me a while but now I really understand why many of you are glass half empty when it comes to this team. I'll always be a die hard fan but I probably won't drink any Kool Aid until they actually make an NFCC and play consistently. I'll always hope for the best but will prepare for the worst, and it's sad that "America's Team" makes me feel like that.

Great post......Imagine your Kellen Moore. And you want to run some offensive plays that feature a blocking FB.....and or a blocking TE.

Jerry the GM provides you with No FB.....and tells you to make do w/ Schultz and Jeremy Sprinkle....and it's ok to use Mcgovern as a FB if you need to....and It's alright to use Steele as a TE.

Amazes me people can't see how handcuffed Moore really is in this offense. It's not his doing....

It's a damn miracle we were even in the playoffs with the up and down QB play.
 

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I certainly don't agree with the delight many on this forum take in rubbing the team's failure in the faces of their supposed fellow fans. It wouldn't surprise me if a select few of this forums celebrity Negative Nancy's are actually Eagles fans. That said, I've finally started to see that many of the points you guys have made about Jerry, Dak, and McCarthy are true. I work in healthcare finance and one of the key principles in my job is that you can't ignore trends. If something happens over and over then it's usually more the norm than an outlier. I have been a big fan of Jerry and Dak, and have been a very hopeful and optimistic fan even though the team hasn't been to an NFCC since I was 7.

I'm not sure if it's because I actually went to the game and spent alot of hard-earned money on seats only to witness Dak miss throws, McCarthy and Moore be completely out-schemed and out-coached, or if it's because I'm staring down another long offseason after yet another one-and-done-in-the-playoffs season, but I've finally reached my breaking point and am ready to acknowledge that Jerry's ego and his inability to get out of the coaches way and hire anything other than "yes men" has doomed this team having any hope of real success. Between forcing OL/RB personnel, interfering with how Kellen calls games, etc., he and Stephen have certainly created a too many hands in the cookie jar situation, and I can certainly see how no great coach would want to work for someone like that. I've grown in my career under bosses that let me spread my wings and do things my way while giving me support and guidance, and have wanted to get away from micro-managers as quickly as possible. So, it's pretty obvious why no coach worth their salt would want to be told they have to start Collins at RT, they had to play Zeke over Pollard, etc. Hell, I'm even more shocked they cut Jaylon after the way they kept ramming their heads into the wall with their personnel decisions seemingly all made by Jerry and Stephen.

Dak is harder for me to wrap my head around. I genuinely felt like he was improving and starting to play like the best QB's in the league. He was confident, making great reads and throws, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how he fell off so fast. He seemed like he could run fine vs. SF and so I can't attribute his shakiness to the calf. He just seemed like he had no confidence in himself, his OL, or his receivers. Out of all of the things I listed I do still feel like Dak can turn it around, but I acknowledge that he's going to need some help that I'm not sure he's going to get. With Amari seemingly on the outs with the Jones' I'm very worried about this offense with an aging Zeke and no Amari and an OL that needs rebuilding in the middle. I'm not sure if Ceedee has shown true dominant #1 potential. It really felt like this year was the best year to make a run and the team fell flat on their faces.

It's taken me a while but now I really understand why many of you are glass half empty when it comes to this team. I'll always be a die hard fan but I probably won't drink any Kool Aid until they actually make an NFCC and play consistently. I'll always hope for the best but will prepare for the worst, and it's sad that "America's Team" makes me feel like that.
Well written sir!!!
 

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In the end, the only thing that matters is results.

We can like and hate players, like and hate coaches, like and hate the front office, but in the end, the only thing that matters is results.

We can support and root for the Cowboys every year, but in the end, the only thing that matters is results.

Love Dak or hate Dak, love McCarthy or hate McCarthy, none of that matters .. in the end, they lost.

That is what matters.

Excellent point Reality..............the only thing that matters are results and the Cowboys always find a way to lose, always.

So people can blame Jerry and his idiot boy, they can blame Dak and call him a choker, they can blame Moore and his crayola offense, they can blame big Mike and say Rogers carried him in Green Bay, they can blame the refs, they can blame Roger Goodell and clam there is a conspiracy against the Boyz, but at the end of the day none of that matters.

Only thing that matters is the Cowboys lost, period.............just like they always do.
 

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I certainly don't agree with the delight many on this forum take in rubbing the team's failure in the faces of their supposed fellow fans. It wouldn't surprise me if a select few of this forums celebrity Negative Nancy's are actually Eagles fans. That said, I've finally started to see that many of the points you guys have made about Jerry, Dak, and McCarthy are true. I work in healthcare finance and one of the key principles in my job is that you can't ignore trends. If something happens over and over then it's usually more the norm than an outlier. I have been a big fan of Jerry and Dak, and have been a very hopeful and optimistic fan even though the team hasn't been to an NFCC since I was 7.

I'm not sure if it's because I actually went to the game and spent alot of hard-earned money on seats only to witness Dak miss throws, McCarthy and Moore be completely out-schemed and out-coached, or if it's because I'm staring down another long offseason after yet another one-and-done-in-the-playoffs season, but I've finally reached my breaking point and am ready to acknowledge that Jerry's ego and his inability to get out of the coaches way and hire anything other than "yes men" has doomed this team having any hope of real success. Between forcing OL/RB personnel, interfering with how Kellen calls games, etc., he and Stephen have certainly created a too many hands in the cookie jar situation, and I can certainly see how no great coach would want to work for someone like that. I've grown in my career under bosses that let me spread my wings and do things my way while giving me support and guidance, and have wanted to get away from micro-managers as quickly as possible. So, it's pretty obvious why no coach worth their salt would want to be told they have to start Collins at RT, they had to play Zeke over Pollard, etc. Hell, I'm even more shocked they cut Jaylon after the way they kept ramming their heads into the wall with their personnel decisions seemingly all made by Jerry and Stephen.

Dak is harder for me to wrap my head around. I genuinely felt like he was improving and starting to play like the best QB's in the league. He was confident, making great reads and throws, and I cannot for the life of me figure out how he fell off so fast. He seemed like he could run fine vs. SF and so I can't attribute his shakiness to the calf. He just seemed like he had no confidence in himself, his OL, or his receivers. Out of all of the things I listed I do still feel like Dak can turn it around, but I acknowledge that he's going to need some help that I'm not sure he's going to get. With Amari seemingly on the outs with the Jones' I'm very worried about this offense with an aging Zeke and no Amari and an OL that needs rebuilding in the middle. I'm not sure if Ceedee has shown true dominant #1 potential. It really felt like this year was the best year to make a run and the team fell flat on their faces.

It's taken me a while but now I really understand why many of you are glass half empty when it comes to this team. I'll always be a die hard fan but I probably won't drink any Kool Aid until they actually make an NFCC and play consistently. I'll always hope for the best but will prepare for the worst, and it's sad that "America's Team" makes me feel like that.

What a relief, bloke. I thought you were to become a witch or warlock.
 

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The people that post here on a regular basis are Cowboys fans.

EVERY last one of them.

It's sanctimonious to say otherwise , but that does fit with the "I'm a better fan than you " them thst permeates this forum...

Exactly........there are no bandwagon fans left, this team hasnt sniffed a title in 26 years.

And guess what, they aint going to be sniffing a title next year either.
 
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