Has Dak Peaked?

raven55

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peaked he's already sliding down the other side of the hill and its greased, just keep a watch out for all the games with decent defenses and you will see because seeing is all you will have to know
 

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I think using his rookie season as the foundation of your argument...or at least the opening statement of this comment...is a bit misleading.

Surely you can admit, most starting rookie QB's don't get THAT team. Let's ask Joe Burrow.

Having the NFL leading rusher and one of the best rookie RB's ever...can allow the QB, even a rookie...to be very..."efficient".

Note: I did not say Dak sucks. He played pretty darn good 2016.
So if it allows you to be more efficient then why did Carson Wentz and Ryan Tannenhill suck last year?
 

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Yep, just like any other QB. They need a line. Some more than others. Dak needs one more than romo did. But if you have a good line, Ill take Dak over Romo because he is a better leader and better game manager. Better in the clutch.

Both good enough to win a championship. Both top 10, neither is elite. Both can play elite and have stretches of elite based on the quality of the players around them.

A guy like Mahomes and Rogers can play elite with a little less talent. But these guys still need studs all around them and proper blocking.
Not sure how much better of a "leader" you can be than playing NFL QB with a broken collar bone.

New shoes?

Dak couldn't even get his best players to follow covid guidelines.

Note: I did not say Dak sucks. I just don't agree he's this all-powerful bestest ever "leader".
 

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Isn’t that every quarterback? What quarterback has won a championship under the WRONG circumstances?
Joe Flacco carried the 2012 Ravens through the playoffs.

The Ravens entered the playoffs losing 4 of their last 5 games and proceeded to give up 35 points in the Divisional round and 31 points in the Super Bowl. It took Joe Flacco having the best post season of all time for a QB in NFL history to lead them to that Super Bowl win. I would not consider that good circumstances.
 

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Isn’t that every quarterback? What quarterback has won a championship under the WRONG circumstances?

That's not what I mean. You need circumstances to fit the quarterback. Not every quarterback is taking Cinci to the SB. The Rams don't win the SB with Jared Goff. There may be a circumstance that would allow the Cowboys to win with Dak, but it's not using him like he's Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. More like Dak in 2016 or the 49ers model with Garoppolo.
 

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I dunno. So you disagree that a great RB season doesn't help the QB?

I would agree, As great as Rodgers is GB made sure they got Aaron Jones signed: Aaron Jones signed a 4 year, $48,000,000 contract because what he brings to the table, Jones is a check down for Rodgers and a damn good RB
 

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Yep, just like any other QB. They need a line. Some more than others. Dak needs one more than romo did. But if you have a good line, Ill take Dak over Romo because he is a better leader and better game manager. Better in the clutch.

Both good enough to win a championship. Both top 10, neither is elite. Both can play elite and have stretches of elite based on the quality of the players around them.

A guy like Mahomes and Rogers can play elite with a little less talent. But these guys still need studs all around them and proper blocking.

Joe Burrow, "hold my beer"
 

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I think using his rookie season as the foundation of your argument...or at least the opening statement of this comment...is a bit misleading.

Surely you can admit, most starting rookie QB's don't get THAT team. Let's ask Joe Burrow.

Having the NFL leading rusher and one of the best rookie RB's ever...can allow the QB, even a rookie...to be very..."efficient".

Note: I did not say Dak sucks. He played pretty darn good 2016.
Which team? The team that finished 4-12 the year before and had Romo sitting at 5 tds and 7 ints before he got hurt?

The team that had the 4th leading rusher in the NFL in 10 games started?

Joe Burrow went 2-7-1 his rookie year and the major difference in his second year was adding a great wr. Oh and also another year of seasoning. Which is why what Dak did his rookie year is so amazing.
 

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Which team? The team that finished 4-12 the year before and had Romo sitting at 5 tds and 7 ints before he got hurt?

The team that had the 4th leading rusher in the NFL in 10 games started?

Joe Burrow went 2-7-1 his rookie year and the major difference in his second year was adding a great wr. Oh and also another year of seasoning. Which is why what Dak did his rookie year is so amazing.
Umm...i already told you what year. We were talking about rookie years. Come on man.....take a deep breath before you reply. Read again..
If dak had the same kind of rookie season with joes rookie team...id be impressed. Daks 2016 team was stacked.
 

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Lol Burrow has 1 1/4 season of work, let's see how consistent he is. It's stupid to put Burrow ahead now...lol
The only place you're going to find Dak ahead of Burrow in rankings would be on Cowboys fans sites.

Any unbiased source would not dare have Dak ahead of Burrow right now unless they do not care about their creditability.
 

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The only place you're going to find Dak ahead of Burrow in rankings would be on Cowboys fans sites.

Any unbiased source would not dare have Dak ahead of Burrow right now unless they do not care about their creditability.

Still don't mean it's right or accurate, Burrow has played 1 full season , lists and rankings get questioned all the time, at 1 time RG3 and Carson Wentz was considered a top 5 qbs
 
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