Video: Film study Tyler Smith

[shabazz]

This is hey i take every evaluation by media and fans with a grain of salt. Some people evaluate players and never played the game. I find it hillarious.

I don't usually watch much tape of these guys until they are taken so i was initially upset with the pick bc of the penalties.

Watching his tape, I don't know how anyone could be upset. The kid has something...

I think a lot of people are rethinking this pick after sleeping on it and realizing the options at the time.

time will tell but they DID address the trenches

 

[Ken]

Were you in the room?

No...neither were you.

 

[Whyjerry]

No...neither were you.

I didn’t claim to know the details of text messages.

 

[Ken]

I think a lot of people are rethinking this pick after sleeping on it and realizing the options at the time.

time will tell but they DID address the trenches

I also was upset bc of my initial reaction to the penalties, not having watched anything on this kid and it seemed like we were reaching for need (we definitely were reaching for need).

I also thought the 3 guys who were drafted after him, possibly with the exception of Johnson-seems a little stiff to me, were all much better prospects. We had a shot to take a surefire stud C and took a gamble on a guy with a ton of potential.

I don't know how it will pan out but they definitely are taking a risk here.

 

[Ken]

I didn’t claim to know the details of text messages.

I didn't either...i was just repeating what Stephen said.

I don't think he would flat out lie about that.

 

[terra]

I ask this: show me examples of penalty machines in college that were not in the pros. Give me examples and I will feel a lot better about this pick.
16 penalties, 12 of them holds. No film or tape is going to explain that away.

 

[Whyjerry]

I didn't either...i was just repeating what Stephen said.

I don't think he would flat out lie about that.

The Jones family wouldn't lie? Is this the real world?

 

[Creeper]

My concern is if the plan is to put him at LG then he needs to learn to play LG at the same time he needs to learn the fundamentals of blocking without holding. Every video I see of him he could get called for holding on every play. I think in the NFL he will get called a lot unless he fixes his technique. Maybe he can do it but it looks like he plays by instinct with his hands and it may take him a while to learn what he needs to learn.

Also, NFL DTs are much bigger, stronger than college DEs. He is not going to throw them around like he did to college DEs.

Maybe he turns out to be a quality player someday but I seriously doubt that will happen before September. So who is our starting LG?

On a positive note, he looks a little like Erik Williams to me. He has that kind of meanness factor. If they can fix his technique issues, he could turn out to be a beast.

 

[Doomsday101]

I like the player but not the selection. I felt Cowboys could have moved back and still get him along with an additional pick. Having said that Welcome to the Cowboys Tyler Smith, hope you are ready to get to work.

 

[Whyjerry]

I ask this: show me examples of penalty machines in college that were not in the pros. Give me examples and I will feel a lot better about this pick.
16 penalties, 12 of them holds. No film or tape is going to explain that away.

Its scary for sure. I watched some You Tubes on this guy. Looks like he succeeds with pure size and strength. It will really boil down to whether or not they can get his technique at an NFL level.

 

[Sandyf]

One of the things that I hate and love about this board is the passion we fans have for the Cowboys whether we like something or we absolutely hate it. It is always a point to see how fans see things regardless if we know if it is true or not.

With the selection of Tyler Smith, I guess I am in the middle for now. Do I think we took him to high? Yes, although I haven't and none of us will ever see how Dallas truly rated him on their board. Did Dallas receive any calls to trade down? Have to think some team called wanting to move up the way the draft went but we will never know if they did and what the offer way. Probably no more than another 5th round pick if only a couple of spots and I believe there was no way Dallas was trading out of the 1st, just hasn't been their style in a while.

With Devin Lloyd and Jermiah Johnson on the board along with Linderbaum at #24, I was a bit shocked that one of them wasn't the pick. With Linderbaum, they had to be really happy with Biadasz or the short arms and less weight was really a factor for them. In Lloyd and Johnson, there had to be more to the story. Johnson seemed a fit at DE although every team passed on him or refused to trade up for him when every expert said he was the fourth best DE in the class. Has to be something everyone is missing. With Lloyd, I do believe that he failed over half of the league teams physicals and suspect he failed Dallas physical or else he seemed ripe for Dallas.

It was a crazy night with all the trades and where many players went. I was equally surprised at what Washington did in not taking a QB and with Philly getting played in not getting Jameson then backed into a corner into trading for AJ Brown and then giving him $100 million over 4 years with $58 million guaranteed. Brown is good, really good when he plays but he isn't a guy that usually goes out of his way to make the catch.

As to Tyler Smith, it seems they have the notion he is a bit like Larry Allen and we can only hope that he is. Still think they need to address the OL more the next two days along with WR and DL and LB. Guess the one thing that seems to be a good thing is that all the analysts and experts seem to believe the meat of this draft is in the 3rd through 5th rounds, so there is a bit of hope. Also with all but one QB still on the board just maybe a guy or two will fall that Dallas wants without having to move up to get him. We will see!

 

[coult44]

The reviewer made a mistake in his review.

On the corner blitz where he said Smith was supposed to recognize and pick him up, that is actually the quarterback's call, not Smith's. The OT's job is to block the defensive linemen and when additional players like safeties and cornerbacks show blitz, the quarterback is supposed to assign them to the OTs **if** he believes if the blitz it will interrupt the play. If the quarterback does not call for an OT to watch or block a potential blitzing player, the OTs assume the running back will handle it or the play and/or quarterback will move away from the blitz.

Of course if the quarterback called for him to block the blitzing cornerback and he did not, then it was his mistake. However, he made no attempt to block him even after the play started so I doubt that was the case.

About 95% of QB’s in college football do not call out blitz pickups. That’s a big difference between those who make it to the NFL and those who don’t. The Tulsa QB is not one of those guys. Hell, we are all hoping Dak can do more of that. Reading defensive coverage is a very hard skill to do , reading blitz packages might be too much to ask.

 

[cityochamps]

The reviewer made a mistake in his review.

On the corner blitz where he said Smith was supposed to recognize and pick him up, that is actually the quarterback's call, not Smith's. The OT's job is to block the defensive linemen and when additional players like safeties and cornerbacks show blitz, the quarterback is supposed to assign them to the OTs **if** he believes if the blitz it will interrupt the play. If the quarterback does not call for an OT to watch or block a potential blitzing player, the OTs assume the running back will handle it or the play and/or quarterback will move away from the blitz.

Of course if the quarterback called for him to block the blitzing cornerback and he did not, then it was his mistake. However, he made no attempt to block him even after the play started so I doubt that was the case.

Very good observation

 

[Reality]

About 95% of QB’s in college football do not call out blitz pickups.

That was true 15-20 years ago but a lot has changed in college since then, at least for many quarterbacks because so many former-NFL players and coaches are coaching in college now.

Of course they are not as detailed and sophisticated as NFL quarterbacks at commanding the offense, but basic blocking schemes are easily handled by all levels of quarterbacks.

The main difference is that in college the quarterbacks roll out a lot more often and have the play flexibility and athletic agility to do so which allows them to shift away from the blitz as well as defensive players who break through the line.

That is why I said the OTs do not worry about blitzing players unless the quarterback tells them to do so because they assume if nothing was said, the running back will handle it or the play and/or quarterback will shift away from it, the latter of which is the most common result.

In any of those cases though, it is not the OTs job to pick up the outside blitzing corner unless they are told to do so.

Better to block the player in front of you than let him have a short direct route to the quarterback and let the quarterback shift or roll away from a farther away blitzing player.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

 

[john van brocklin]

Thanks for posting !!!

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Williams was the most-penalized lineman in the NFL last year (15 total, 12 accepted). Smith had 16 penalties (12 holding calls) last year at Tulsa.

 

[Doomsday101]

Williams was the most-penalized lineman in the NFL last year (15 total, 12 accepted). Smith had 16 penalties (12 holding calls) last year at Tulsa.

Williams was getting pushed back which lead to him holding, 6'5" 315, Smith is 6'06" 332 and should not be getting pushed into the back field.

 

[ItzKelz]

We've done pretty good drafting OL. Who am I to question? We needed a guard and they didn't want to take a chance he would not be there later in the draft.

I get it. We really have to get the guys we want in the draft due to letting so many starters from a year ago leave. Guard was the most glaring need IMO so I get it.

 

[jazzcat22]

For what it's worth...

Zeke and Tony approve this pick if he can run block at the NFL level.
However, Moore needs to call real running plays for it to be a success.