PFT: Papa John's CEO, Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder wanted Goodell fired

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Dan was nowhere to be found when Jerrah was going after Roger. The only owner who would have been on Jerrah side was gone from this earth.
 

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Dan was nowhere to be found when Jerrah was going after Roger. The only owner who would have been on Jerrah side was gone from this earth.

That's understandable, since Snider is already on the precipice of being ousted by Goodell and the league. I wouldn't doubt that there are several of the owners in the NFL who would like to see Jerry being ousted, as well.
 

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I don't understand why Jones and Snyder would get the owner of a pizza chain to get involved in firing Goodell. What leverage does a private business owner have over Goodell? How could he get Goodell fired? This makes no sense. Jones needed to get the other owners to fire Goodell, that is the only way. But that is never going to happen because Goodell has always been in the pocket of some powerful owners. Jones and Snyder know this first hand from their experience dealing with Goodell. First, they were punished for violating the salary CAP after the last CBA expired and there was no salary CAP. The story is it was John Mara, the owner of the Giants who pushed Goodell to punish Dallas and Washington.

For Jerry, how could he forget the kangaroo court that wound up suspending Zeke Elliott 6 games after the lead investigator did not recommend suspension and was barred from attending the final hearing of Zeke's case. The female lead found the primary witness and accuser to lack credibility. Goodell suspended Zeke 6 games anyway.

Now Goodell is clearly attempting for force Snyder to sell his team using underhanded tactics, leaks, and investigations to smear Snyder.

Goodell is one of the worst commissioners the NFL has seen. The owners who want to pay him $50 million per year are the ones who pull the strings.
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Former Papa John’s CEO: Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder wanted me to get Roger Goodell fired
Posted by Mike Florio on May 7, 2022, 10:27 AM EDT
So Jerry teamed up with that creep Snyder whose team was sexually harassing women and the Papa John's guy who used the "N" word during a conference call, to take out Roger.
And these three idiots actually thought it would work:lmao2:

And lets look at the fallout from this. Snyder is probably going to lose his team, the Papa Johns guy is a national disgrace, and Jerry's team leads the NFL in penalties and the season ended with Dak literally being tackled by a ref, LMAO.
 

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Goodell’s a high paid puppet, doing the bidding of the inner circle, which is Mara, Kraft, that Dude from L.A., and a few others. They TOLERATE Jerry, because he brings the rating$, but he’s an outsider. I’m guessing they won’t let his team win another Super Bowl.
Yep, we all have to tolerate Jethro. And he’s not in click with others because he’s in it for himself not the league.

All of Jethro’s revolutionary revenue brilliance was to enable and benefit his agendas and passions. The fact the league benefitted was merely just riding on his coattails or collateral convenience. If he could have just benefited himself he would have.

And he won’t need the leagues assistance in not winning another Super Bowl. He’ll be able to achieve that all on his own. This is of his own doing not anyones else.
 

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I beg to differ on who has/had the more difficult task. Rozelle dealt with the merger, the scab season and the death of JFK. He had to generate money without today's TV contracts, the internet or cable. Goodell has had easy in comparison IMO
But Rozelle didn’t have to deal with Congressional oversight into head trauma and multi billion dollar lawsuits threatening the future and solvency of the league.

Nor did he have to deal with protecting the shield from personal conduct risking the leagues image and potential fallout from networks and sponsors.

Not to mention unlimited free agency , preserving parity with Salary Cap and franchise's looking for greener pastures. There’s been a multitude of issues no other commissioner has encountered.
 

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Long has been the argument of sport or business when it comes to the NFL. Goodell has expanded the business for the better, but not necessarily the sport IMO. To each their own
But the sport has always been about the business . Maybe fans just didn’t want to recognize as such. He’s had to make adjustments to the sport to save the business.
 

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Let’s see…Jerry and Dan Snyder tried to dump Goodell, then end up with “Bad Karma”…

Dallas—A ratings king loaded with talent, comes JUST SHORT of success every year, plagued by penalties at the worst possible times and players suspended for stuff others aren’t. Odd.

Washington—Forced to change their name, constant losing, endless lawsuits, nonstop scandal. Sure, much is deserved, but you think these other teams are angelic?

Don’t cross Goodell…
Of course . More conspiracy theory. These owners couldn’t be responsible for their own lack of success this era on the field.

And Washington isn’t only major sports franchise publicly influenced or forced to change their name.

I’d argue if it wasn’t for Goodell being forced to exercise his powers to protect the shield we’d of had particular owners self interest potentially bringing down the league.

And fans hostility is also self serving for their own teams interest not the leagues.

These are very tough and unpopular decisions that have to be made. Decisions that most are unable or unwilling to make.

Fortunately the league owners majority has placed and provided power to someone willing to take on these enormous challenges despite the public scrutiny. And Goodell has delivered.
 

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Goodell is one of the best NFL Commishes pf all time. He's done his job at a very very high level. The more people hate him, the better the job he's done.
Yep. And it’s funny and actually very noble how he embraces that criticism and boos. Not all great leaders know how or willing to accept and be humbled by criticism. He rises to the occasion.

He’s really separating himself from the pack and taken the league to new heights while protecting the shield against obstacles of todays society and world.
 
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Goodell has made it the bigger spectacle, but Rozelle by far produced the better product. For that matter so did Tagliabue IMO. MNF, the Pro Bowl, even the playoffs to an extent had more substance then as opposed to now. Maybe my age is showing, but today's game in general doesn't excite me near as much as it did. I still enjoy it, and prefer it to all the other sports, but the game and atmosphere are completely different. For me Goodell represents that change. I'm just not impressed with his tenure
I’d agree that most fans , at least those from older eras as ourselves , don’t welcome all of the changes to the sport and the surrounding distractions . But I’d argue they’ve been necessary to preserve the sport and it’s overall popularity.

I’m not sure with all of the medical issues with congressional oversight into head trauma that have threatened the leagues existence and solvency bringing on so many rule changes along with public players personal conduct which threatened the leagues image with not only the networks and sponsors but the fringe fans this league attracts to bolster revenue.

The league and its owners needed a representative to help navigate them thru this most challenging era. We may not all like or approve of the final product that’s emerge from these challenges but the alternative may not have been as bright.
 

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Yep, we all have to tolerate Jethro. And he’s not in click with others because he’s in it for himself not the league.

All of Jethro’s revolutionary revenue brilliance was to enable and benefit his agendas and passions. The fact the league benefitted was merely just riding on his coattails or collateral convenience. If he could have just benefited himself he would have.

And he won’t need the leagues assistance in not winning another Super Bowl. He’ll be able to achieve that all on his own. This is of his own doing not anyones else.

Yeah, he’s in it for himself, not the league, unlike all the other owners. Everyone else is noble and blue collar— selfless heroes who value the game and the fans. Hugs and rainbows, not money!

Jerry Jones is an arrogant, greedy, obscenely wealthy attentionwhore who has largely sabotaged the success of this franchise, BUT…I will believe to my dying breath that he’ll always be an outsider. The “inner circle” HAS kept us from one or two Lombardi’s these past 26 years—deny all you want.
 

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Of course . More conspiracy theory. These owners couldn’t be responsible for their own lack of success this era on the field.

And Washington isn’t only major sports franchise publicly influenced or forced to change their name.

I’d argue if it wasn’t for Goodell being forced to exercise his powers to protect the shield we’d of had particular owners self interest potentially bringing down the league.

And fans hostility is also self serving for their own teams interest not the leagues.

These are very tough and unpopular decisions that have to be made. Decisions that most are unable or unwilling to make.

Fortunately the league owners majority has placed and provided power to someone willing to take on these enormous challenges despite the public scrutiny. And Goodell has delivered.
I agree with much of what you say, but if you think there’s NOT an inner circle of owners, of which Jerry’s not a part, then you’ve got your head in the sand. You’ll NEVER convince the millions of good Cowboy fans who think they’ve kept us out, so whatever argument you’ll inevitably offer up is pointless. Of course, you’ll carry on until ‘you know who’ joins the fray to “validate” your agenda, so let’s just save some time, and table this, ok?
 

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I agree with much of what you say, but if you think there’s NOT an inner circle of owners, of which Jerry’s not a part, then you’ve got your head in the sand. You’ll NEVER convince the millions of good Cowboy fans who think they’ve kept us out, so whatever argument you’ll inevitably offer up is pointless. Of course, you’ll carry on until ‘you know who’ joins the fray to “validate” your agenda, so let’s just save some time, and table this, ok?
I said Jethro wasn’t in the click with owners which agrees with that part of your argument

But I wouldn’t say they have prevented us from making anymore Super Bowls .
 

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Yeah, he’s in it for himself, not the league, unlike all the other owners. Everyone else is noble and blue collar— selfless heroes who value the game and the fans. Hugs and rainbows, not money!

Jerry Jones is an arrogant, greedy, obscenely wealthy attentionwhore who has largely sabotaged the success of this franchise, BUT…I will believe to my dying breath that he’ll always be an outsider. The “inner circle” HAS kept us from one or two Lombardi’s these past 26 years—deny all you want.
There’s absolutely no evidence that our lack of success on the field is any other owners fault but our owns.

That’s the most ridiculous and paranoid claim from a fan I think I’ve ever heard. But I suppose is consistent with a conspiracy theory.
 

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There’s absolutely no evidence that our lack of success on the field is any other owners fault but our owns.

That’s the most ridiculous and paranoid claim from a fan I think I’ve ever heard. But I suppose is consistent with a conspiracy theory.

Denial. Discomfort for anything not supported by “evidence” satisfactory and beneficial to the small, wealthy demo in control. Predictable. Eye rolling and chuckles all around. Signing off now.
 

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Denial. Discomfort for anything not supported by “evidence” satisfactory and beneficial to the small, wealthy demo in control. Predictable. Eye rolling and chuckles all around. Signing off now.
At least we can agree there’s some denial going on here. And the eye rolling. Truly one of the greatest conspiracy theories .
 

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Lol. Jones, snyder, and papa John. The triumvirate of trash.
Years ago after I waved my white flag with our dysfunctional ownership I did decide to cash in on their financial juggernaut investing with many of the Cowboys sponsors. But Pappa Johns is one I passed on with no regrets.
 

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Goodell has destroyed the NFL but Jerry is the worst owner in the league. He set this team up to fail since he fired Jimmy. He got lucky once. Not happening again.


He didn’t want to fire Jimmy. That’s BS. Jimmy ran his mouth about wanting to coach in Miami during the Super Bowl run. That’s what started it. He gave Jimmy what he wanted.
 

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EzE got suspended for unsubstantiated claims that occured prior to him being in the league! Total witch hunt.

We have never seen such a suspension since.
 
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