Video: Irvin on why Cooper was traded

Hawkeye19

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Normally I’d agree, but the 2 coaches that traded him away are Gruden and McCarthy. I’m not sure I trust those 2 dinosaurs to make that kind of judgement call on a younger player.
Obviously only a few know the real story and Coop def doesn’t seem to be the most enthusiastic, but I also won’t be surprised if Stefanski has 0 problems with Coop.

Just my opinion— but I think JJ is the one who wanted Coop gone. After he missed two games for the reasons he did— JJ was spittin mad and called him out publicly.
 

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I doubt he ever would say such a thing. Cousins had a losing record as a starter until I think he finally got to .500 this past year. Dak could lose every start this season and still have a better record than Cousins. The two have very little in common other than they both play QB.
All of sudden it’s W-L with you. LOL, It’s the playoff success he was referring to Dak , Cousins same bag of crap.
 

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I think it was a matter of personality, not getting a shot, challenging Dak and money. .
Never thought we should have given a 1st round pick for him, but if we had not, we likely would have taken Calvin Ridley, and he's involuntarily sitting out this year after voluntarily sitting out last year. So it was a wash either way.
But Coop's gone now. No longer our problem.
Coaching is our biggest problem followed by quarterback, offensive line and defensive run-stopping.
Hopefully, we've fixed the offensive line, which will help the quarterback. Maybe Ridgeway plugs the middle.
Then there's coaching, which we'll really not see the deficiencies therein until the playoffs - if we reach the playoffs.

I wouldn’t have drafted Ridley, it’s almost like he’s been cheating his way through life. He was 20 years old in high school so he dominated because that’s not fair when other kids are like 16.

So then he goes to the best college for football and of course looks good again so he gets drafted in the first round because well he was more mature. Then he gambles on football while sitting out. He doesnt want to play on a rookie contract, he’s already 27, he wants 100m guaranteed so he’s dodging his rookie contract. I think he should have 2 more years on his rookie contract when he comes back but with no guaranteed money.
 

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perfectly fair comment and no disagreement there. However, the environment must be considered. The best comparable i could think of immediatly would be to an outside sales group - a soft spoken, introvert might be the smartest person on the team but in that specific environment that skill set is minimized because the business needs more of an agressive approach.

Based on what I know of the NFL it sounds like its a similar situation where introverts, though they might be very talented and incredibly smart, if they cant dial up the energy and enthusiasm might have challenges...sounds like something similar happened with Amari and that his easy going approach got him traded.

Perception is reality for most people.

The business need for a salesman is to shmooze. Extroversion helps.

The business need for a WR is to get open and catch the ball. I don't need him to emote harder.
Anyone who has watched the Cowboys over the years knows that emoting power is a double-edged sword.
 

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The business need for a salesman is to shmooze. Extroversion helps.

The business need for a WR is to get open and catch the ball. I don't need him to emote harder.
Anyone who has watched the Cowboys over the years knows that emoting power is a double-edged sword.

Leadership and toughness is as important as production. Its the difference between Irvin and Cooper. Its the difference between championships and disappointment.
 

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Most guys get really comfortable after they get paid. It takes a special player to continue to strive for greatness. I don’t think Zeke or Dak are those guys. We’ll see about Parsons.

More bad analysis or just plain nonsense.

Zeke is certainly a guy that would rather get drunk then in shape. Dak however, is everything you want in leadership in a QB. A guy that strives to be the best and get better.
 

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More bad analysis or just plain nonsense.

Zeke is certainly a guy that would rather get drunk then in shape. Dak however, is everything you want in leadership in a QB. A guy that strives to be the best and get better.

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Anyone that watched Cooper play here knows that he wasn't worth 22 million a year. Not by a leadership standpoint and not by a production stand point.

They could have restructured/resigned and lowered that cap hit.

And as we see with new WR contracts, Cooper's is looking like it wasn't that awful after all.

Jerry and Stephen got taken to the cleaners in that trade. The Browns made out like bandits.
 

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The Raiders just got a 5th rounder from the Falcons for WR Bryan Edwards. Jerry needs to fire himself for the Coop fiasco because it hurt the team badly. We should have gotten a 2nd rounder at minimum.
 

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They could have restructured/resigned and lowered that cap hit.

And as we see with new WR contracts, Cooper's is looking like it wasn't that awful after all.

Jerry and Stephen got taken to the cleaners in that trade. The Browns made out like bandits.
Why would they want to restructure? Cooper was a luxury they no longer needed.

as far as both sides of his trade he’ll yah he got fleeced like always.
 

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Looks like a vicious circle to me. The milquetoast prior coach wanted the ‘right kind of guys’ and ran off the guys like Dez Bryant, who played with fire and passion. And now a few years later, the team is going out of its way to restock with players like that, because on the football field, nice guys finish last.

To be fair Dez was such a physical beast that it slowed him down and also brought on injuries sooner than later near the end of his stint with the Cowboys. Dez only lasted one season with the Ravens and tore his Achilles tendon with the Saints around the middle of their season. Football didn't injure his spiritedness and competitive will though.
 
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