PFT implies Watson punishment should be no more than Jerry, Kraft or Sydner

Reid1boys

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I was wondering that myself.

Since several of these happened some time back and they weren't reported then, it sure does appear to be nothing more than a money grab.
Nah... they have nightmares and can't sleep at night. I have 4 daughters, so I hate this as it weakens legit claims of abuse.
Money grab for sure based upon what we've seen.
Hes a typical ****** horndog...certainly not worth prison, and certainly not worth 1 million dollars x20. But hey, learn the lesson Watson. You could have had a lifetime supply of hookers for what acting like a ****** cost you.
 

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I know what policy you're talking about. It's similar to actions detrimental to the league. That your choices put yourself in a compromised position, leading to the league looking bad.
Which sounds like a 6-8 game suspension coming.
 

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Nah... they have nightmares and can't sleep at night. I have 4 daughters, so I hate this as it weakens legit claims of abuse.
Money grab for sure based upon what we've seen.
Hes a typical ****** horndog...certainly not worth prison, and certainly not worth 1 million dollars x20. But hey, learn the lesson Watson. You could have had a lifetime supply of hookers for what acting like a ****** cost you.
Same page here.

Don't get me wrong, he should've been reported for improper behavior to the mgmt and prolly the NFL a long time ago, but the transgressions don't seem to be horrible.
 

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IM a little confused as to what you are saying. His lawyer(Watsons?) showed evidence to the grand jury?

A prosecutor presents to the grand jury but they are not obligated to present everything nor are they obligated to present it in such a way that would best lead to an indictment. This is why it is odd that there were so many calls to Watson's attorney but only one call in total to the lawyer representing the woman. If you were genuinely interested in showing all the evidence you would be in quite a lot of contact with latter. That is ignoring that again in Watson's deposition he all but admits to a crime, and his lawyer publicly is admitting to one (well more than one but one specific crime multiple times), that again the prosecutor is electing to ignore. Some of the grand jury has already said publicly that a lot of the evidence that they learned about after they did not see during their time in the grand jury.

The prosecutor clearly does not want to deal with the trial and one of the ways to get out of it is to tank the case with the grand jury because then you can pass the buck to them and simply say that there was not enough evidence to indict.
 

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A prosecutor presents to the grand jury but they are not obligated to present everything nor are they obligated to present it in such a way that would best lead to an indictment. This is why it is odd that there were so many calls to Watson's attorney but only one call in total to the lawyer representing the woman. If you were genuinely interested in showing all the evidence you would be in quite a lot of contact with latter. That is ignoring that again in Watson's deposition he all but admits to a crime, and his lawyer publicly is admitting to one (well more than one but one specific crime multiple times), that again the prosecutor is electing to ignore. Some of the grand jury has already said publicly that a lot of the evidence that they learned about after they did not see during their time in the grand jury.

The prosecutor clearly does not want to deal with the trial and one of the ways to get out of it is to tank the case with the grand jury because then you can pass the buck to them and simply say that there was not enough evidence to indict.

For example, the Houston Detective who believes Watson committed crimes and told the DA but wasn't allowed to testify to the grand jury.
 

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I mean…Snyder has been removed from the day to day operations of the team. Not sure if Watson wants that for himself
 

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A prosecutor presents to the grand jury but they are not obligated to present everything nor are they obligated to present it in such a way that would best lead to an indictment. This is why it is odd that there were so many calls to Watson's attorney but only one call in total to the lawyer representing the woman. If you were genuinely interested in showing all the evidence you would be in quite a lot of contact with latter. That is ignoring that again in Watson's deposition he all but admits to a crime, and his lawyer publicly is admitting to one (well more than one but one specific crime multiple times), that again the prosecutor is electing to ignore. Some of the grand jury has already said publicly that a lot of the evidence that they learned about after they did not see during their time in the grand jury.

The prosecutor clearly does not want to deal with the trial and one of the ways to get out of it is to tank the case with the grand jury because then you can pass the buck to them and simply say that there was not enough evidence to indict.

I know how it works, thats why I asked my question. IN a grand jury, the defendant (even though they arent a defendant) presents zip to the grand jury. His attorney is ot present. It is an absolute 100% one sided discussion with the grand jury.... thats it. Prosecutors do what they want, how they want..... 100% up to them. Grand jurys vary from state to state in how they operate.
 

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For example, the Houston Detective who believes Watson committed crimes and told the DA but wasn't allowed to testify to the grand jury.
wait.... you mean a detective believes someone is guilty of crimes?????
 

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I was wondering that myself.

Since several of these happened some time back and they weren't reported then, it sure does appear to be nothing more than a money grab.

Trauma messes people up particularly sexual trauma. Take combat PTSD. Those survivors are pretty famous for not wanting to discuss what they went through. Overwhelming shame and fear is at the core of it.

There have been cases of people committing fraud certainly but nothing more?
 

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Always 2 sides. Watson definitely up to no good and got busted before his fetish was allowed to develop into something that would send him to the slammer. But this lawyer and all the cases are a bit much making me think this bad situation was twisted into something else for the ultimate cash grab.

Do I think it’s suspicious that the plaintiff has represented every single woman? That some of them have nothing but a hope and a prayer. Of course.

But I also think it’s obvious that something did occur. The few strong cases. And if it was one of our family, we all know we’d have a problem with Watson and the Texans. My wife was a masseuse in her younger years. She told me some of the stories. She never had to deal with anything like this, but she was also street smart with her own rules, and one was she would never go to a client’s house or room directly out of fear for these types of situations.
 

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I hope the Browns are enjoying the distraction they got for their three number one picks.
 

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Trauma messes people up particularly sexual trauma. Take combat PTSD. Those survivors are pretty famous for not wanting to discuss what they went through. Overwhelming shame and fear is at the core of it.

There have been cases of people committing fraud certainly but nothing more?
Man, if a guy making passes at you causes trauma, you have much bigger problems.
 

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The sheer number of complainants provides a preponderance of evidence. Did 24 women collude to try and wreck his career? Hard to believe that.
 

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The sheer number of complainants provides a preponderance of evidence. Did 24 women collude to try and wreck his career? Hard to believe that.
Or, did a few start the lawsuit and then a bunch joined in? I'm not sure you can call complaints evidence. Plus, evidence of what? That he's a dooshbag? I think that is clear already!!! However, what exactly is the crime? More than anything, it's being an idiot. That's also clear, but that's not a crime.
 

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I hope the Browns are enjoying the distraction they got for their three number one picks.
Cleveland actually has a dou-distraction to entertain them. ...don't forget their Mayfield-18 million-dollar albatross.
 

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Or, did a few start the lawsuit and then a bunch joined in? I'm not sure you can call complaints evidence. Plus, evidence of what? That he's a dooshbag? I think that is clear already!!! However, what exactly is the crime? More than anything, it's being an idiot. That's also clear, but that's not a crime.

So you don't believe the complaint that he moved in a way that caused one of them to touch his junk? Or are you saying that's not a crime?
 

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The sheer number of complainants provides a preponderance of evidence. Did 24 women collude to try and wreck his career? Hard to believe that.

Also, why would he need a NDA for a massage? Worried they could tell an opposing team he holds his tension in his shoulders or he's ticklish behind the knee?
 
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