CFZ There's Only Two Players on the Roster Capable of Filling Cooper's Shoes in 2022

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I tend to agree. And Gallup is a better player off-the-field, and in the locker room, it seems like.




I was talking about it being simple in terms of two players being able to replace Amari's production, which was 865 yards.

Personally, I think Tolbert is capable of putting up that many yards alongside Lamb. Maybe even Washington has it in him to do the same.

That said, I agree with most of what you're saying, especially the part about the 5th round pick.

For whatever reason, it looks like they were indeed more than ready to move on from Cooper. The 5th round pick was the writing on the wall.

Gallup has put up those kinds of numbers for years. If he can stay healthy I see little issue. Tolbert is a bonus.
 

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51 yards a game?

J.Tolbert
N.Brown
J.Washington
B.Smith
S.Fehoko
D.Drummond

Of the players I just listed, S. Fehoko is my least favorite. But I believe all of those guys can come close to 51 yards a game.
 

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So, this is pretty self-explanatory. The Cowboys took a gamble with Cooper. And I'm not exactly sure why. But I suggest he had problems not being the number 1 target at times and taking a back seat to Lamb.

In an interview with the Browns, Cooper was excited that he would have input with the coaches on what routes he "can get open on."

I found that interesting, that he put so much value in having input on which route he would run in the game. That, and I observe he doesn't play with the reckless abandon Lamb plays with. Lamb is 100MPH, all the time. Cooper will duck defenders. It's just a different style, and I think Cooper takes a business first approach rather than team before himself like Lamb. And it shows in his game.

In any case, the only two players on the roster capable of putting up 865 yards in 17 games is Tolbert or Fehoko.

James Washington had 735 yards one year, but then he sat behind other players allegedly favored by the coaches in Pittsburgh.

I'm a big Gallup fan (he and Diggs are my favorite players). And I fully believe Gallup has another 1,000-yard season or two left in him. But I wonder whether that'll be the year following an ACL tear. Or sometime in the future. I think the Cowboys took a bigger gamble on Gallup over opting to retain Cooper because of the kind of team-first player he appears to be.

That's why I see the Cooper trade more about culture change than anything.

Jon Gruden did the same thing when was implementing a culture change within the Raiders.

For this offense to work the way it did last year, Tolbert, Fehoko and Washington all need to step up their game for an approximate combined 1,467 yards after losing Cedrick Wilson who had 602 yards and Amari Cooper who had 865 yards in 2021.

But I think Washington more or less plays the Cedrick Wilson role.

I'm pretty sure that leaves Tolbert taking over Cooper's role, since there's only one ball to go around. But I can also see Fehoko also playing well if something happens. He has the athleticism and seems to fit in well with the team, and the Cowboys made a point to keep him for this year.

For those who believe Schultz hasn't been an important factor to the offense or believe that you can just plug and pay any player there, they need to wake up and smell the roses. Schultz quietly put up 800 yards last year, which really helped the offenses production, which we'll need again if we want to make the playoffs.

He's simply not getting enough credit around here from fans.
Keep drinking that Arlington Jonesboys Kool Aid.

Raiders WRs corps go down the toilet when Copper is traded away, and Cowboys WRs Corps go up with a playoff berth. Now you expect that it will not happen to Jerry Dumbo GM Jones who traded Cooper away in a kiss your sister trade, and Schultz is going to suddenly become Jason Witten/Billy Joe Dupree and Jay Novacek in their primes?

Keep drinking that Kool Aid.
 

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I keep seeing people say "Pollard isn't this" or "He cant handle that"...Pollard was a 50% slot WR in college, he is great in space in the passing game....Find me a more explosive player with the ball in his hands on our offense right now?...I'm not saying take carries away from Zeke...Im saying take touches away form our 3rd and 4th WR and give them to Pollard and lets see what happens....Touches that you want...Lamb, Gallup, shultz, zeke, you cant seriously tell me that Pollard should not be in that group.
 

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Keep drinking that Arlington Jonesboys Kool Aid.

Raiders WRs corps go down the toilet when Copper is traded away, and Cowboys WRs Corps go up with a playoff berth. Now you expect that it will not happen to Jerry Dumbo GM Jones who traded Cooper away in a kiss your sister trade, and Schultz is going to suddenly become Jason Witten/Billy Joe Dupree and Jay Novacek in their primes?

Keep drinking that Kool Aid.

This is stupid.
 

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He’s a world class Eeyore. Always has been. Everything sucks, everyone’s incompetent, we’re doomed, blah blah blah…

Everythiiing suuuuucks...

I like to discuss facts and different aspects of the game. If I'm a homer, so what? But I'm not being a homer here. I'm merely saying there's only two players who are even capable of producing what Cooper produced in 21.

It does get tiring when anytime you try to discuss something, people reply with the same phrases about the owner or the QB or Koolaid or something. It's like, why even reply?
 

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Everyone is trying to replace Coops 2021 stats but to me it was an organizational decision to keep Coops numbers down to make it easier for the fans to accept moving on from him. The stats that more represent Coop are his 2020 numbers.
 

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Everyone is trying to replace Coops 2021 stats but to me it was an organizational decision to keep Coops numbers down to make it easier for the fans to accept moving on from him. The stats that more represent Coop are his 2020 numbers.

I don't think it was as much that as it is allowing a younger player to progress to his potential while letting go of another who is approaching his downside.

It makes more sense to stick with your guy who's under 25 rather than helplessly tying yourself to an aging player who costs you more money.
 

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Between Tolbert and Washington they should be able to get by imo. Should be plenty of receivers that defenses have not had a chance to figure out yet.
that's what i'm thinking... cobb had cooper like numbers in our offense when relative to last year...can def see tolbert putting up 700 yards and 3-5 tds with james washington picking up slack
 

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I don't think it was as much that as it is allowing a younger player to progress to his potential while letting go of another who is approaching his downside.

It makes more sense to stick with your guy who's under 25 rather than helplessly tying yourself to an aging player who costs you more money.

People always think YOUNGER YOUNGER YOUNGER but that ain’t always better. We need some seasoned vets from other teams to come here and be impactful on the field and in the locker room. The reason we lost to the 49ers last year is because we didn’t have any veteran leadership. In this day you’ll never win a super bowl with a roster of players under 25 years old. What you will do is put your salary cap in good position so that you can save money to……….
 

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So, this is pretty self-explanatory. The Cowboys took a gamble with Cooper. And I'm not exactly sure why. But I suggest he had problems not being the number 1 target at times and taking a back seat to Lamb.

In an interview with the Browns, Cooper was excited that he would have input with the coaches on what routes he "can get open on."

I found that interesting, that he put so much value in having input on which route he would run in the game. That, and I observe he doesn't play with the reckless abandon Lamb plays with. Lamb is 100MPH, all the time. Cooper will duck defenders. It's just a different style, and I think Cooper takes a business first approach rather than team before himself like Lamb. And it shows in his game.

In any case, the only two players on the roster capable of putting up 865 yards in 17 games is Tolbert or Fehoko.

James Washington had 735 yards one year, but then he sat behind other players allegedly favored by the coaches in Pittsburgh.

I'm a big Gallup fan (he and Diggs are my favorite players). And I fully believe Gallup has another 1,000-yard season or two left in him. But I wonder whether that'll be the year following an ACL tear. Or sometime in the future. I think the Cowboys took a bigger gamble on Gallup over opting to retain Cooper because of the kind of team-first player he appears to be.

That's why I see the Cooper trade more about culture change than anything.

Jon Gruden did the same thing when was implementing a culture change within the Raiders.

For this offense to work the way it did last year, Tolbert, Fehoko and Washington all need to step up their game for an approximate combined 1,467 yards after losing Cedrick Wilson who had 602 yards and Amari Cooper who had 865 yards in 2021.

But I think Washington more or less plays the Cedrick Wilson role.

I'm pretty sure that leaves Tolbert taking over Cooper's role, since there's only one ball to go around. But I can also see Fehoko also playing well if something happens. He has the athleticism and seems to fit in well with the team, and the Cowboys made a point to keep him for this year.

For those who believe Schultz hasn't been an important factor to the offense or believe that you can just plug and pay any player there, they need to wake up and smell the roses. Schultz quietly put up 800 yards last year, which really helped the offenses production, which we'll need again if we want to make the playoffs.

He's simply not getting enough credit around here from fans.
Why would we say Fehoko has the potential? A lot of people seem to like or want to like Fehoko, but I'm not sure why. I'm not saying he doesn't have something to offer (how would we know at this point?), but I don't see anything for now that suggests he is capable of 865 yards in the NFL. He was behind 6 other players on the depth chart last year. Of course some of those players are gone now, but when Gallup gets back he's likely to be no more than 5th or 6th on the depth chart, and he's probably not even a lock to make the team at all.
 

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How many years since Cowboys won a SB?

How much more of Jones’s b.s. are you going to keep eating?
True but how do you hate our top players and look to start practice squad guys? You literally put out hate posts on Lamb and Parsons, and love Anae and Simi
 

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Why would we say Fehoko has the potential? A lot of people seem to like or want to like Fehoko, but I'm not sure why. I'm not saying he doesn't have something to offer (how would we know at this point?), but I don't see anything for now that suggests he is capable of 865 yards in the NFL. He was behind 6 other players on the depth chart last year. Of course some of those players are gone now, but when Gallup gets back he's likely to be no more than 5th or 6th on the depth chart, and he's probably not even a lock to make the team at all.

As someone else said, that's like 51 yards a game. I'm not saying he'll even make the team. But if he does, I can see him having 835 yards. He has the physical tools to do it. However, I think it's more likely that Tolbert would put up numbers like that.
 

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Everyone is trying to replace Coops 2021 stats but to me it was an organizational decision to keep Coops numbers down to make it easier for the fans to accept moving on from him. The stats that more represent Coop are his 2020 numbers.

No one knows if this is the case BUT..if it is it is the dumbest thing ever as that would turn your 1st round pick (what they gave for him) into a 5th...horrible business if thats the case.
 
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