Goodell expected to significantly increase Watson's suspension

Brax

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Do people just believe everything they hear because the title "expert" is used? People just shut their brains down and allow others to decide what you think because you believe they are smarter than you? The league isn't appealing this. He's getting 6 games.
You are wrong. Appeal coming soon
 

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LOL, I really thought they wouldn't appeal it. But being wrong is not something I'm not accustomed to. But I guess they are ok with dragging this out.
 

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Do people just believe everything they hear because the title "expert" is used? People just shut their brains down and allow others to decide what you think because you believe they are smarter than you? The league isn't appealing this. He's getting 6 games.
This didn’t age well
 

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It sets a precedence for the future and the Player's Union is going to hit this hard next negotiation.

Not that I am supporting, or against what they do.
Interesting to watch though.

If he does this it's going to be litigated. I haven't read the exact language but it's a mutually agreed upon and binding arbitration if I'm not mistaken.

NFL is just playing the PR game in their typical amoral fashion.
 

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Two other courts in Texas threw out the charges for not enough evidence, so it wasn't just this judge

Given how indictments are done the DA wasn't even trying. Now that is likely because he didn't think he had a sure thing in a win given cross examination, rebuttals and the like but indictments are mindlessly easy to get if the DA wants to get one through and there is any evidence of criminal behavior. There are multiple accounts that prima facie would meet the standard for a criminal act.
 

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This didn’t age well

Yeah, the fools are opening up a can of worms. I still don't think Watson will win a court case. But I can now see it going to court.

For a league that wants to avoid negative press, they're making sure they keep this case in the forefront for a very long time.
 

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Because the law of public opinion trumps the law in the NFL.

As it should.
I hope this is wrapped in sarcasm but if not.
There is no LAW in the NFL... it's a business entity. A unique one where it owns a league and teams and the players are a union operating collectively with them. They have to maintain appearances for business purposes and personal conduct should be maintained but they collectively bargained a process to do that. Fairly.

If you read Judge Sue Robinsons' conclusion she did a wonderful job with this suspension and it was fair. People are upset because of their bias isn't right.
 

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I hope this is wrapped in sarcasm but if not.
There is no LAW in the NFL... it's a business entity. A unique one where it owns a league and teams and the players are a union operating collectively with them. They have to maintain appearances for business purposes and personal conduct should be maintained but they collectively bargained a process to do that. Fairly.

If you read Judge Sue Robinsons' conclusion she did a wonderful job with this suspension and it was fair. People are upset because of their bias isn't right.
Yeah sure its fair.
NOT.
 

GimmeTheBall!

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Wow, so if he committed sexual assault against 4 women he should get at least a year and maybe lifetime suspension. Sexual assault against 4 women is horrible. The most important line in that is : " as defined by the NFL". So to me that suggests the NFL has a different definition of sexual assault then the police. So this puts the ball in the NFL's court. Watson violated the NFL rule of sexual assault so the NFL can punish him without criminal charges.

So this goes back to a post I made yesterday or today. At the next CBA everyone has to decide what the NFL's role is. Is the NFL a policing entity or not. This is the gray area that bothers fans like me. I don't like that the NFL has their own definition of sexual assault and I really don't like the phrase "conduct detrimental to the league ". It seems vague and subjective.

I feel Watson should at least get a year suspension but this fuzzy, gray area that allows the NFL to dish out inconsistent punishments needs to be addressed at the next CBA.

In simpler, more innocent times sexual assault afainst even ONE WOMAN is serious enough to suspend for 5 years.
but we have NFL celebrities who beat up people, do PEDs, do drive-by shootings, flout vaccinations, attack women and other heinous things and still line up to play on NFL Sundays.
The culture has gotte out of whack. This is not the NFL of good young men of yesteryear.
 

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If he does this it's going to be litigated. I haven't read the exact language but it's a mutually agreed upon and binding arbitration if I'm not mistaken.

NFL is just playing the PR game in their typical amoral fashion.

This is where things get fuzzy, no pun intended. Watson will take it to court if he loses the appeal and get more time. What will the judge be looking for here? Because the contract does say the league can appeal. The judge can just say, those are the agreed upon rules, live with it. Or will he actually look to see if the appeal was fairly conducted?

In an appeal, don't you usually have to bring in new evidence to counter the original verdict?
 

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If you have to ask you will never understand the answer.
I am not sufficiently bored to waste my time educating you.
Oh, please, please, PLEASE... get bored. I'd love to be educated. Please.
 

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I am still waiting on Robert Krafts suspension for doing exactly the same thing.

Not to defend Kraft but he paid for an agreed upon "Happy Ending." Watson is alleged to have er.. tried to force the Happy Ending without getting it negotiated up front. Not saying either is right or wrong.. but they are different circumstances altogether.
 

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Not to defend Kraft but he paid for an agreed upon "Happy Ending." Watson is alleged to have er.. tried to force the Happy Ending without getting it negotiated up front. Not saying either is right or wrong.. but they are different circumstances altogether.
still means that Kraft got away with it. Goofsmell lives by double and triple standards.
 
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