CFZ Why Cedee Lamb is good but not great…yet

DandyDon52

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I just watched the bills vikings game , and jefferson was awesome.
CD is nowhere near him, and they both came in at same time.
He has cousins as his qb, so is cousins that much better than dak?
Is the minn OC that much better than kellen?

Jefferson runs crisp routes and excels at contested catches, and is very physical with anyone
covering him.
He also seems very serious about running a route and that the ball is his not the defenders.
He made one catch with a guy all over him that was unreal. my first thought was no way he
caught that but he came up with ball and it was ruled complete. then they showed the replay
and it was hard to believe.
you guys should watch that game, before you assume dallas will beat the vikes.
I heard diggs will be covering him, so it will be interesting.

And I havent seen many viking games, but I doubt he would smile after a drop.

Just imo lamb was and still is over rated, and sure jerry is going to over pay him.
 

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If only we had a WR who was a great route runner…hmmm
 

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Yeah...so there's this thing called a QB that must be factored into any WR evaluation.

Name your WR in the league. Who's the alpha? I guarantee you his numbers would suffer playing with Prescott.
 

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Stats don't tell the whole picture, especially our last game. Yes. He had great numbers, but a couple of route gaffes kinda negate the good. Lamb ain't a disciplined route runner and his hands ain't the best. He's a freelancer who's best in the slot. Maybe he'll clean up his game and be great, but he ain't there yet.

As for the UT thing, I don't like college ball at all. It's like being a fan of AA baseball. What's the point of being a fan of a bunch of guys who'll never see an NFL field? When I look at a player, I don't care where he attended college. That said. Ex Sooners do tend to have a problem being disciplined on the field. They were so much better than everyone else in the B12, they didn't have to play with discipline. That doesn't cut it in the NFL.

I only watch college football during the offseason, sometimes, to scout players for the NFL. Otherwise yeah, college football is lame.
 

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Willie…you’re right. Through 9 games this year, Cedee is 10th in receptions and 10th in yds, and tied for 4th in TDs. But my overall take on him through 2.5 seasons is still that he’s not yet an elite receiver.
Is it really a knock to not be a top 5 WR? Once you get to about 7/8 you can argue Ceedee. He’s a clear and obvious WR1, as there are about 15-17 of those at any given time. He’s just not elite which again isn’t a huge deal, you’ll only have 3-4 elite players on a team at one time anyways.

He’s a clear pro bowl level WR, that’s what you want in the first round.
 

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Neither is cooper not sure why he has to by, having a solid #1 is all that should be expected and hes shown he could do that without Cooper on the other side. allegedly drawing coverage, CD was supposed to struggle and from where i sit having his best season.

AC had never broke 1200 yards or double digit Tds , his route running doesn't make him elite, his production is in line with CeeDEEs..
Beautifully said!
 

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I only watch college football during the offseason, sometimes, to scout players for the NFL. Otherwise yeah, college football is lame.

Same here, but I don't watch it much. It's sometimes like watching arena football. Since some players are getting paid, might as well call it minor league football.
 

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He can sharpen his route running and improve his catching but his demeanor will always be the same….he’ll never be a natural leader and tough competitor like Michael Irvin……but that ok.
 

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Lamb’s stats this year show him to be in the top 10 in most categories despite playing with a backup QB most of the season…I swear, if he wore burnt orange in college this forum wouldn’t pile on like it has on the guy.
I'm a through and through Sooner fan and CeeDee frustrates me more than any player on the roster. Inconsistent hands and route running are the only things holding him back from becoming one of the very best. He just isn't there yet. He absolutely has it in him, but he has to put in the work, physical and mental, to take that next step.
 

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Neither is cooper not sure why he has to by, having a solid #1 is all that should be expected and hes shown he could do that without Cooper on the other side. allegedly drawing coverage, CD was supposed to struggle and from where i sit having his best season.

AC had never broke 1200 yards or double digit Tds , his route running doesn't make him elite, his production is in line with CeeDEEs..
His stats have proven that he is a #1 receiver. There's no denying that. Team stats show that Amari Cooper was the catalyst that lit that offense on fire. Top 5 last year, bottom 5 this year. It doesn't matter who the better player is when it was having both on the field that made that offense hum.
 

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Cedee Lamb is a very good NFL wide receiver. I’m glad he’s a Cowboy and I look forward to seeing him continue to improve. But….he’s not yet the elite receiver he was drafted to be. He’s been good, just not great. Again, at least not yet.

Below are the reasons why in my opinion Cedee Lamb has not yet cracked the list of elite receivers. I would rank him perhaps top 20 but nowhere near the top 10.
  • Finished 21st in receptions in 2021 with 79 receptions.
  • Finished 16th in yards in 2021 with 1,102 yds.
  • Finished 35th in TD receptions in 2021 with 6.
  • Had a streak of 17 straight games without 100 yards or more in a game. (Had his first 100 yd game since last Oct last Sunday vs Pack)
  • Went 9 straight games without a TD reception from 2021-22.
  • His rookie season of 2020, he definitely had a good year- 74 receptions for 935 yds and 5 TDs. That’s very good for a rookie, but he finished 27th in receptions and 22nd in yards, 32nd in TDs.
  • Has had a problem with drops in his first two years although it’s gotten better of late.
  • Is known to be a lazy route runner who doesn’t make route adjustments crisply.
  • Is excellent with yards after catch- finished top 5 last year.
  • Doesn’t possess great speed but is very quick.
Bottom line for me- Lamb is a really good receiver. He’s at best a low end #1 or high end #2 receiver. But the above makes it clear to me, he’s not “elite”. Maybe he can develop more in several areas and become elite.

I’m hoping he continues to work hard to improve his game. He’s still only 24. I’m not knocking the guy but just being honest about what kind of receiver he is at this point. Good but not great.
Stardom went to his head from minute one and I blame Jerry Jones more than Lamb for that one.

Why can’t Mike Irvin get into his head and pass along certain things? Wont work?

I still have high hopes for him and root for him hard.

Last week was difficult with the great stat sheet but then the route problem which was a big part of the difference in the game.

Feels like what we are in a nutshell for the last forever……nice on the stat sheet but the little things that don’t show up in the box score but lose us games are the big difference.

Getting tired of that.
 

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Cedee Lamb is a very good NFL wide receiver. I’m glad he’s a Cowboy and I look forward to seeing him continue to improve. But….he’s not yet the elite receiver he was drafted to be. He’s been good, just not great. Again, at least not yet.

Below are the reasons why in my opinion Cedee Lamb has not yet cracked the list of elite receivers. I would rank him perhaps top 20 but nowhere near the top 10.
  • Finished 21st in receptions in 2021 with 79 receptions.
  • Finished 16th in yards in 2021 with 1,102 yds.
  • Finished 35th in TD receptions in 2021 with 6.
  • Had a streak of 17 straight games without 100 yards or more in a game. (Had his first 100 yd game since last Oct last Sunday vs Pack)
  • Went 9 straight games without a TD reception from 2021-22.
  • His rookie season of 2020, he definitely had a good year- 74 receptions for 935 yds and 5 TDs. That’s very good for a rookie, but he finished 27th in receptions and 22nd in yards, 32nd in TDs.
  • Has had a problem with drops in his first two years although it’s gotten better of late.
  • Is known to be a lazy route runner who doesn’t make route adjustments crisply.
  • Is excellent with yards after catch- finished top 5 last year.
  • Doesn’t possess great speed but is very quick.
Bottom line for me- Lamb is a really good receiver. He’s at best a low end #1 or high end #2 receiver. But the above makes it clear to me, he’s not “elite”. Maybe he can develop more in several areas and become elite.

I’m hoping he continues to work hard to improve his game. He’s still only 24. I’m not knocking the guy but just being honest about what kind of receiver he is at this point. Good but not great.


Love on your posts, how you brake it down PurpleHaze.
 

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If he hasn't gotten there yet he isn't going to. You either have it or you don't.
 

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CeeDee is a very very good number 2 reciever. He doesn’t have the consistency to be a #1
 

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Cedee Lamb is a very good NFL wide receiver. I’m glad he’s a Cowboy and I look forward to seeing him continue to improve. But….he’s not yet the elite receiver he was drafted to be. He’s been good, just not great. Again, at least not yet.

Below are the reasons why in my opinion Cedee Lamb has not yet cracked the list of elite receivers. I would rank him perhaps top 20 but nowhere near the top 10.
  • Finished 21st in receptions in 2021 with 79 receptions.
  • Finished 16th in yards in 2021 with 1,102 yds.
  • Finished 35th in TD receptions in 2021 with 6.
  • Had a streak of 17 straight games without 100 yards or more in a game. (Had his first 100 yd game since last Oct last Sunday vs Pack)
  • Went 9 straight games without a TD reception from 2021-22.
  • His rookie season of 2020, he definitely had a good year- 74 receptions for 935 yds and 5 TDs. That’s very good for a rookie, but he finished 27th in receptions and 22nd in yards, 32nd in TDs.
  • Has had a problem with drops in his first two years although it’s gotten better of late.
  • Is known to be a lazy route runner who doesn’t make route adjustments crisply.
  • Is excellent with yards after catch- finished top 5 last year.
  • Doesn’t possess great speed but is very quick.
Bottom line for me- Lamb is a really good receiver. He’s at best a low end #1 or high end #2 receiver. But the above makes it clear to me, he’s not “elite”. Maybe he can develop more in several areas and become elite.

I’m hoping he continues to work hard to improve his game. He’s still only 24. I’m not knocking the guy but just being honest about what kind of receiver he is at this point. Good but not great.

Good reason to sign OBJ for the play-offs.
 

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You mean the great route runner that has been outperformed 2 years in a row by the receiver we have now?

oh that’s ridiculous to say he was outperformed by Ceedee….Amari was how Ceedee got open….
 
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