Unrealistic Cowboys fans blame Romo

jobberone

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The "romo is savior" group is just as vocal and just as annoying as the "romo haters" group, if not worse.

I agree with this up to a point. Romo missed a wide open Miles Austin in the Giants game. Now, Austin didn't 'see' the ball and definitely didn't come back for it. And the defense surrendered points and let the Giants back in it.

We could go on and on. Let's just say there have been times when Romo could have done better and plenty of times the team could have.
 

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Oh really he has? I don't remember Peyton or Brady or even Rodgers or even Brees constantly throwing late game ints. It happens, but not very often.

Romo hater? Is this all you Rose smelling homers have to say about anyone being critical? I still like romo, and hell I root for him, he's on my team, and I want a championship.

What I will not do, is dig up every excuse I can for his guy, like as if somebody told me there was a billion dollars worth of gold buried at such and such spot.

Romo has a few great regular seasons, stats wise. Yay....but I'll take Eli's stats and his rings any day of the week for the Cowboys and Romo.

Thank you!
 

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I've never considered Tony "elite" or close to that.

He's very good though. I don't think he is the leader Aikman or Staubach are touted as being.

I kind of expect the gunslinger aspect of his game. It's just who he is & he is fun to watch.

If they'd build that complete team around him he's very capable. Hopefully they are making strides in that direction.
 

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Oh really he has? I don't remember Peyton or Brady or even Rodgers or even Brees constantly throwing late game ints. It happens, but not very often.

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Brady had three last year. Two resulting in losses. His team on list 4 games.

Manning had two in two losses, but he did have one more try in the qtr before the game ended. They only lost 3 times.

Brees have multiple picks in almost all of their losses, but at least last year, I didn't see any intone lasts omnibuses of the 4th.
 

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We are going to miss good QB play. Because you are not guaranteed to have that after he is gone and that is why.

When Aikman retired we had some pretty bad QBs to watch and having to go through with that again is a real possibility.

Again Romo has done his part to be successful and he can't do it by himself.

So why is it guaranteed that we will have more crap QBs after Romo is gone? Isn't that an indictment of Jerry? Maybe, just maybe the next guy is better than Romo, and maybe he won't be, but Romo will retire one day in the not too distant future anyway so the fear of the unknown theme will have to be dealt with anyway (not that I'm saying cut Romo now). If Jerry is a lousy GM then yeah it will be more Hutch and Q Car types. If he does his job then there is no reason why we can't get a good QB after Romo is gone.
 

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False! !! Romo has plenty help on offense and defense the past years. The past 2 years the D has not been that strong but good enough to take us to the playoff in this weak division.
The problem here is the golden boy never take his whipping, similar to the whipping boy. Example our last game in 2012, Ryan took the heat for that game, while it was clear Romo threw that pic. How many jobs has been lost due to the fact we fail to accept Romo short comings?

Bwahahahaha yea, our d stopped Stafford cold on that last drive, just one example
 

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lol... You have come a long way man. I'm proud of you! Back in the day you used to bash me for my opinions on Romo. Congrats on seeing the light and being real now.

Lol....back then you were to hard on him, to early. At least IMO. I guess you saw something that at the time I was blind to, I still don't want to believe it, but it's reality
 

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The farce is strong with that 27th rated defense.

Or was it next to last in the league.
 

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It's this type of logic that makes me shake my head at this and threads like it.

So, by your explanation, the defense becomes more culpable with every score they allow.

If that were the case, does the offense assume the blame when they don't score?

I think you make a sound point, but one you may not have meant to make.

If the teams that play both score 24 points, and the Cowboys have the ball with less than two minutes and are driving, how does accounting work on an interception that leads to the points for the other team?

1. Dallas did not score. So minus one for the offense.

2. The defense gave up points. So minus one for the defense.

3. Romo threw a turnover.

Now how does that factor in?

You see, some here will blame the defense. They should not have given up the points. Yet this game is skewed toward points, so the defense starts in the hole just because of the rules.

I believe in most cases the defense is the problem. Game in and game out you see the defense struggle as the game goes on.

One would think the head coach would focus on game management so the team can have the lead and the ball and milk the clock. But we have seen that doesn't work with Opie either.ou

But I'm a fair guy, and believe there is enough blame to go around for everyone involved.

So when I see Romo throw a pick at the end of a game that causes the other team to run out the clock, or go and score, I have to ask what would the results have been if he did not toss that pick?

That usually answers the question for me.


I stopped reading when you started assigning a point value to blame. I'm not trying to weigh blame here; I'm simply saying you cannot place complete blame on Romo for losses, unless games consisted of 1 play where Romo threw an interception and said interception was returned for a Touchdown...then and only then, could you blame the loss on Romo. But as it turns out, there are more than just that 1 play in games, and typically there are other guys who made mistakes throughout the game that put us in a position to lose. Obviously, Romo throwing an interception at the end didn't help our cause any, but to throw out everyone else's mistake because of the last mistake that Romo was responsible for is a bit misguided.
 

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I'm not a huge Romo fan. That said, I can see being mad at Romo for ending games with some bad plays, but I don't know how you can blame him when the team is at the top of the league in scoring and the bottom of the league in defense. If the defense plays for the first 50 minutes of the game, the ball is never in his hands in the last 10. I'm getting the sense that this conversation is a serious retread around here though.
 

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Bwahahahaha yea, our d stopped Stafford cold on that last drive, just one example

Don't forget the mere 40 first downs allowed to the Saints and the fact the defense couldn't get Denver nor Chicago to punt. Yeah, Romo had lots of help!
 

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I agree with this up to a point. Romo missed a wide open Miles Austin in the Giants game. Now, Austin didn't 'see' the ball and definitely didn't come back for it. And the defense surrendered points and let the Giants back in it.

We could go on and on. Let's just say there have been times when Romo could have done better and plenty of times the team could have.

This has been my argument in Romo's favor all along. Romo has had his share of blunders- I'm a Romo fan and I cannot deny it. But if the entire team as a whole steps up in those instances Romo doesn't, things would be different.

Ben Roesthlisberger won a Super Bowl against Seattle completing something like 9 of 21 passes with two picks. Had the Steelers lost that game, his performance would have been called one of the biggest "chokes" in history. But Pittsburgh's defense and running game stepped up, and Roesthlisberger got off the hook.
 

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It's interesting to read other forums. NE fans are saying Brady has already declined, yet he did not have many weapons on offence...if fans pile on him - they will pile on any QB. ;)

Romo is not the biggest factor holding the Cowboys back
 

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I'm not a huge Romo fan. That said, I can see being mad at Romo for ending games with some bad plays, but I don't know how you can blame him when the team is at the top of the league in scoring and the bottom of the league in defense. If the defense plays for the first 50 minutes of the game, the ball is never in his hands in the last 10. I'm getting the sense that this conversation is a serious retread around here though.

It's only the umpteenth time we've had this debate. It's still fresh in the hearts and minds of the fans.
 

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It's interesting to read other forums. NE fans are saying Brady has already declined, yet he did not have many weapons on offence...if fans pile on him - they will pile on any QB. ;)

Romo is not the biggest factor holding the Cowboys back

Agreed. For a while, I thought I missed the fact the Cowboys had assembled the greatest roster in team history, and are being held back by the fifth highest rated quarterback in league annals.
 

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I'll be the first to admit that Romo has made his share of mistakes...bone-headed even. But many times those mistakes occur as result of him trying to do too much in situations where his options were limited to begin with. To suggest that the defense has been good enough to win the East, while possibly accurate, means absolutely nothing. If you are good w/division championships, by all means, beat that drum. But if you honestly think the defense has been good enough the last two years to win Super Bowls, you are delusional. Injuries have plagued our defense, and you certainly can't blame that on Romo. I said earlier in this thread that I do believe it's time to start looking for his replacement, but there is no body, absolutely no one out there available that gives the Cowboys a better chance to win right now than Romo. Period.

Uggghhhh dude, as I stated before to win a sb no the division yes. But you guys can take this team to a sb m despite the fact he can't help this team win 9 games in this division.
 

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Uggghhhh dude, as I stated before to win a sb no the division yes. But you guys can take this team to a sb m despite the fact he can't help this team win 9 games in this division.

Uggghhh dude, he does help win. Every touchdown the Cowboys get is in large part is due to him. The Cowboys averaged 27.4 points per game in 2013. If your defense can't preserve a win with that many point on the board you clearly have more problems than your QB throwing comeback killer interceptions at the end of the game.
 

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If the defense would just quit throwing those damn game ending INT's, we'd be awesome!

I'd be curious to hear where you thought Tony's game ending interception rate ranked relative to other QBs.

I'm not surprised, but I can't understand why this topic is even debated heavily in a thread. I can't comprehend watching our team and thinking the problem is *anything* other than the defense.
 
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