My Romo Solution

BrassCowboy

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,718
Reaction score
3,313
Who we kidding? Romo will not renegotiate his contract to lose money, why would he? If he doesn't start, I cannot see us paying his 20+ million cap hit next year, likely be cut
 

willia451

Well-Known Member
Messages
3,283
Reaction score
3,525
I think Tony Romo would be willing to do whatever is needed for the Dallas Cowboys franchise. As long as they don't try to outright screw him over.

He's proven that time and time again.

So I'm not worried. They'll work it all out somehow.
 

Blake

Well-Known Member
Messages
5,814
Reaction score
9,390
Before the draft : "We HAVE to get a QB in the draft. Tony has no back up, we have no successor, and it killed us last year."

After a few games : (Romo down) "This Dak kid is special. He should be our starter. Let's trade or release Romo so we can go right back to our 2015 problem."

Makes sense.

Paying a backup qb $20m a year is not a sound investment strategy for the team's future, so yes, it does in fact make perfect sense.
 

MichaelWinicki

"You want some?"
Staff member
Messages
47,984
Reaction score
27,883
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
I could see BK's scenario playing out.

Not unrealistic at all.

As he's pointed out, Romo will be out of guaranteed money.
 

Hawkeye19

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,136
Reaction score
21,131
It all comes down to what Romo is able to still do on the field... Which is why it's best for him and the team to find out what his level of play is this season. If he is 2014 Romo and proves he's 100% healthy and can take a beating-- he should compete for the starting job.

If his production is declining and/or his body continues to break down-- you have to give the reins to Dak and have some tough "come to Jesus" meetings with Tony-- as Bill Parcels would say.
 

CowboyStar88

Well-Known Member
Messages
21,802
Reaction score
23,695
I could see BK's scenario playing out.

Not unrealistic at all.

As he's pointed out, Romo will be out of guaranteed money.


Outside of the guaranteed money, what makes anyone believe that Romo would consider a backup role (this point makes it unrealistic)? Especially if he ends up playing in the next 2 weeks. There is nothing in his past that would lead me to believe in a scenario of Romo sucking up his competitive juices and pride to become a backup QB, after he has been the starter, face of the franchise for more then a decade. What other star QB has done this?

You know damn well Romo wants a shot at his job back. He wasn't beat out by a better player, and I'm not saying Dak can't be a better player, but this isn't about dak.
 

Doc50

Original Fan
Messages
3,142
Reaction score
3,430
Well he will ask for his release. There isn't a chance that Romo takes a pay cut and stays as a backup QB. IMO that's just pie in the sky wishful thinking. I wouldn't blame him for asking for his release after what he's given this franchise.

Romo isn't retiring and it's highly unlikely that Jerry will go after Romo's signing bonus. They would not jeopardize any future positions within the organization. Jerry is very fond of Romo I don't see under any circumstance that he would do that. If Romo asked for his release the boys would grant his request, no doubt about it. But all this talk about backup QB, retirement and going after him for money is all hogwash.

No chance at all that he renegotiates and stays?

There are many aspects of his future viability that we do not know.

He's been very slow to return to practice. Perhaps he's getting some arthritic problems from his years of contact, possibly associated with a genetic predisposition as well. If this is the case, it will become crystal clear to him that he can no longer expect to complete a full season of work. Age is relative -- just because Brady may play beyond 40, it doesn't mean that others can.

The entire offense has performed well with their new leader, despite some other injuries. Maybe the simplified straight-forward scheme changes are actually more comfortable for everyone (not just Dak), and Romo's infinite nuanced play tweaking has created some confusion and/or uncertainty.
Tony's return may actually create a bit of discord.

Romo has worked with this team for a long time, and he has his own comfort zone. It's possible that a new team and scheme would create challenges and discomfort that he would not be willing to tackle at this point in his career.

We're all speculating; I'd just propose that we don't have all the facts to make a definitive predictive outcome yet.
 

CowboyStar88

Well-Known Member
Messages
21,802
Reaction score
23,695
No chance at all that he renegotiates and stays?

There are many aspects of his future viability that we do not know.

He's been very slow to return to practice. Perhaps he's getting some arthritic problems from his years of contact, possibly associated with a genetic predisposition as well. If this is the case, it will become crystal clear to him that he can no longer expect to complete a full season of work. Age is relative -- just because Brady may play beyond 40, it doesn't mean that others can.

The entire offense has performed well with their new leader, despite some other injuries. Maybe the simplified straight-forward scheme changes are actually more comfortable for everyone (not just Dak), and Romo's infinite nuanced play tweaking has created some confusion and/or uncertainty.
Tony's return may actually create a bit of discord.

Romo has worked with this team for a long time, and he has his own comfort zone. It's possible that a new team and scheme would create challenges and discomfort that he would not be willing to tackle at this point in his career.

We're all speculating; I'd just propose that we don't have all the facts to make a definitive predictive outcome yet.


Doc, I am strictly talking about accepting a backup role period. There is nothing in Romo's past that would ever indicate that he would accept it. This dude is a warrior, a competitor. He wants his job back it's obvious.

Also I will add this is all speculating that Romo is healthy
 

Doc50

Original Fan
Messages
3,142
Reaction score
3,430
Doc, I am strictly talking about accepting a backup role period. There is nothing in Romo's past that would ever indicate that he would accept it. This dude is a warrior, a competitor. He wants his job back it's obvious.

Also I will add this is all speculating that Romo is healthy

Right -- if he feels great, that bench is gonna be hard.
 

CowboyStar88

Well-Known Member
Messages
21,802
Reaction score
23,695
Right -- if he feels great, that bench is gonna be hard.

That is my point in this entire debate here. We are talking about a guy who wouldn't let a punctured lung keep him out of a game. So now we are to assume that he is to just willingly accept a backup role. I don't see it
 

CowboyStar88

Well-Known Member
Messages
21,802
Reaction score
23,695
Right -- if he feels great, that bench is gonna be hard.

Here Doc taken from the ESPN article that WG just posted... Tell me how that sounds like someone who would accept a backup role.

Tony Romo: "The money was a nonissue for me. I never make certain decisions in life based on money. I probably would not have gone anywhere where there was a young great player in position, just because eventually you want to grow into being that guy."
 

MichaelWinicki

"You want some?"
Staff member
Messages
47,984
Reaction score
27,883
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
Outside of the guaranteed money, what makes anyone believe that Romo would consider a backup role (this point makes it unrealistic)? Especially if he ends up playing in the next 2 weeks. There is nothing in his past that would lead me to believe in a scenario of Romo sucking up his competitive juices and pride to become a backup QB, after he has been the starter, face of the franchise for more then a decade. What other star QB has done this?

You know damn well Romo wants a shot at his job back. He wasn't beat out by a better player, and I'm not saying Dak can't be a better player, but this isn't about dak.

He's what 37? And injury prone.

And he's been in Dallas a long time.

No, it's not a guarantee that he would accept a back-up job.

But I don't find it totally unbelievable that he wouldn't either.
 

Romotil45

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,102
Reaction score
764
Wait, what?

What is the difference between being cut or released? It's all one in the same. No I think you greatly underestimate how he is perceived by Jones and Garrett and the club. They will want Romo at some point in the future to be apart of this franchise in some capacity. Football is in his blood he lives it. He has a future in this league as a coach it's obvious. Sorry they are not just going to trade Romo without his approval to where he goes he's not some mid level player or talent smh at this stuff. 6 games and people think that this franchise is just going to toss Romo or tell him he's a backup. lol do some of you really believe this? If so I have some great investments opportunities for you, PM me for details!

Why would Romo want to coach when he can make more money as an analysist and have more time with family ? Not going to happen. Romo might become a GM but I doubt Stephen would want to give up being GM when Jerrys gone. It's been a while since a former starting QB has decided to go into coaching for a reason they make the same or better money as analysist or GM but have more time with family.
 

CowboyStar88

Well-Known Member
Messages
21,802
Reaction score
23,695
Why would Romo want to coach when he can make more money as an analysist and have more time with family ? Not going to happen. Romo might become a GM but I doubt Stephen would want to give up being GM when Jerrys gone. It's been a while since a former starting QB has decided to go into coaching for a reason they make the same or better money as analysist or GM but have more time with family.

It isn't a forgone conclusion that he would. However with his ties to this franchise I'd say he is more likely to work in the organization. Romo isn't a well liked guy with the fans of this team and other teams why would he be a good analyst and why would a network hire him with the they have painted him over the years?

It isn't about the money with Romo see above his comment about money that I posted
 

Romotil45

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,102
Reaction score
764
It isn't a forgone conclusion that he would. However with his ties to this franchise I'd say he is more likely to work in the organization. Romo isn't a well liked guy with the fans of this team and other teams why would he be a good analyst and why would a network hire him with the they have painted him over the years?

It isn't about the money with Romo see above his comment about money that I posted

I completely disagree it's true that media outlets bash Romo but they do this for ratings it is well understood throughout the league that Romo may already be a HOF without a Superbowl win. As soon he retires he WILL recieve offers to do commentary be an analyst or be groomed as a GM. Name the last QB of Romos caliber that went into coaching good luck it's been decades why ? They have too many other opportunities to make similar money and have more time with family. The only way Romo stays with the Cowboys in some capacity is if Stephen wants to groom him to become the GM so he can step aside but Stephen wants to prove he's a better GM than Jerry but that won't take much.
 

yimyammer

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,574
Reaction score
7,004
If he retires DAL can go after at least 5m of his SB that was already paid and could subtract that from his one time dead money hit of 19.6m in 2017

How does this work? Does Romo pay back 5 million in this scenario? Its hard for me to believe jeri would try to force Romo to give back any money
 

dallasdave

Well-Known Member
Messages
32,326
Reaction score
88,063
DAL plays this year out with Dak and Tony

If he wants to stay he takes a huge paycut and if he wants to leave he still gets paid but we don't get killed on the cap and get the cap space when we need it in the Spring......if we trade him before June 1st there is nothing we can do about the 19.6m cap hit but at least it will be off the books forever

Next Spring DAL signs Romo to a new 3yr/21m contract.....they take the 14m he is owed for 2017 and guarantees it plus another 1m for a total of 15m guaranteed ...... that comes in the form of a 1m base salary in 2017, a 12m option bonus in 2017 and a 2m base salary in 2018 .... that reduces his cap hit from 24.7m to 15.7m


Option bonus 12m due Sept 1st
................Base...+.....old bonus..+..new OB..=...Cap hit.............old Cap
2017------ 1m...............10.7m..........4m.............15.7m................24.7m
2018*------2m................5.7m...........4m.............11.7m................25.2m
2019*------6m................3.2m...........4m.............13.2m................23.7m

*if he is traded, salary jumps to 10m for both 2018-19 and he gets 250k per game roster bonuses



That makes it a 2yr/15m deal if we keep him as the back-up

It means he makes 3yr/41m if we trade him with 23m guaranteed
We can trade him anytime after June 1st 2017 and get top price since the new team will have control for up to 3 seasons......his 13m compensation for 2017 is very fair and we get immediate and long-term cap relief
What about 1 million base for 2018 and 2019 ??? Could that be done???
 

DFWJC

Well-Known Member
Messages
59,330
Reaction score
48,172
Name a franchise QB who is a known competitor that took a backseat and was ok with just becoming a backup. I can't think of any player of Romo's caliber that has done that.
True
Even guys like Fitzpatrick wouldn't do it last year.

I do think Romo has an unusual allegiance to Dallas though.
But I suspect it's not irrationally so. In other words, he still knows it's a business.
Break every bone, play through every pain known to man for the franchise and team, and still, he understands that he is getting paid a ton and it's a business.
A good, younger, cheaper solution comes along....he realizes the team will punt him curb. Allegiances out the door.
That's just how it works.

Dallas is in a GREAT spot right now. But when decision time comes after this season, it'll be very interesting.
It's not out of the question that we could see Romo in a Jet, Dolphin, or..gasp, 49er uniform.
I think he is CERTAIN...completely certain...that he can play at a high level still. If not, I do think he'd hang it up before going elsewhere.
He loves the Cowboys too much. But maybe they boot him...then all bets are off.
 
Top