News: PFT: A delayed suspension for Ezekiel Elliott is hardly out of the question

[Boyzmamacita]

I really don't think he is clean 100% his immature mentality and the video where he did strip a girl point to that.The girl is no angel and trying to take advantage.
I just hope he learn from this and stay out of trouble. If not his career will be short.

What do you mean by clean? He is accused of beating a woman. Being silly and immature does not equate with woman beater. We are talking about his reputation and legacy as a human being on this earth. Ezekiel Elliott has to fight to clear his name. Nobody is clean 100%.

 

[Dinkdink]

The sad fact is the NFL has no incentive to not suspend a player. Worst cases are an innocent person gets suspended- no big deal for the NFL. If not suspended, then a video may later surface like Ray Rice. The only way the NFL would not suspend a player is if there is no evidence of abuse-regardless of who caused it.

She claims she was being held hostage by Zeke and afraid to leave after daily beatings. He later then gives her the keys to his apartment as they both go out for the night. Instead of fleeing to the police, she comes back later that night to accept another beating. She then gets jealous at the man who pulverized her daily when he's seen with another girl.

 

[Idgit]

the NFL has to have some "smoking gun" evidence that the public is not privy to, that's the only reasonable explanation i can come up with

They don't have anything that Jerry or Zeke haven't seen already.

This happened because of the process. And it's writhin the Commissioner's rights under the CBA. Zeke can fight it, but he's going to be suspended when it's all said and done.

 

[Stash]

the NFL has to have some "smoking gun" evidence that the public is not privy to, that's the only reasonable explanation i can come up with

I'd go with 'incompetence' over any "smoking gun". The NFL has clearly shown incompetence, what they've never shown is the ability to do the job of investigation better than anyone else.

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

Will they look at existing testimony? Because if Goodell and his goons had done that, Zeke would not be suspended for 6 games.

Yes, they look at what NFL actually had before them on both sides, and then determine if the decision and punishment was "arbitrary and capricious"

 

[Alexander]

Not interested in a delay that could disrupt the season. Take it early if you have to.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yep yep:

I don't see where any of the photos proves domestic violence.

 

[Stash]

I don't see where any of the photos proves domestic violence.

Especially the bruised knuckles.

 

[Doomsday101]

Especially the bruised knuckles.

Yeah I could see that she possibly hit something with her fist that would cause bruising.

 

[Stash]

Yeah I could see that she possibly hit something with her fist that would cause bruising.

If I saw a photo that pre-dated her barfight? Sure. But I haven't.

 

[Philmonroe]

Well if he isn't, this is all moot anyway and he should serve his suspension with his mouth shut. I just don't believe Tiffany Thompson. I normally err on the side of victim in these cases, but she is not credible.

This isn't some political party why not err on the side of right period? I dont understand the whole I believe the victim aka women the majority of the time instead of just doing like you've done here. It seems like going by the things we know you made a decision based on that. I think that's how it should be all the time not any bias one way or the other. Now if it's family or friends I understand but in cases where that isn't I don't. No beef just my view on that

 

[The Fonz]

What do you mean by clean? He is accused of beating a woman. Being silly and immature does not equate with woman beater. We are talking about his reputation and legacy as a human being on this earth. Ezekiel Elliott has to fight to clear his name. Nobody is clean 100%.

For sure no one clean( including Zeke) but don't you think someone who has a pending appeal in few days should at least slow down on public partying? I just question his judgement .

 

[jazzcat22]

Sorry, but none of this will happen. An appeal to federal court is about whether the process was flawed in some way or the decision was arbitrary based on the evidence the NFL had. There won't be taking of additional testimony.

You don't know that. There are many ways it can go. They could actually file several different items for separate hearings and accounts.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

This isn't some political party why not err on the side of right period? I dont understand the whole I believe the victim aka women the majority of the time instead of just doing like you've done here. It seems like going by the things we know you made a decision based on that. I think that's how it should be all the time not any bias one way or the other. Now if it's family or friends I understand but in cases where that isn't I don't. No beef just my view on that

Point well taken. I was just being honest when I expressed that I normally give the alleged victim the benefit of the doubt because I don't believe that most women will lie about such a traumatic thing. Then you have women like the one in this case who make it hard on everybody.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

For sure no one clean( including Zeke) but don't you think someone who has a pending appeal in few days should at least slow down on public partying? I just question his judgement .

I question his judgement too, but I don't think relaxing on a boat is partying. He's under a microscope now. That's for sure.

 

[diefree666]

I question his judgement too, but I don't think relaxing on a boat is partying. He's under a microscope now. That's for sure.

and even if he is partying only true A holes can criticize that. One should live not just exist.

 

[jday]

A delayed suspension for Ezekiel Elliott is hardly out of the question

Not much has been said publicly, or privately, about the Ezekiel Elliott case in the past week. Next week, plenty will be said at the formal appeal hearing. After a ruling is issued, that’s when things could get very interesting.

In recent years, players facing suspensions have repeatedly used the court system to delay the punishment, even if each of them have ended up serving the suspensions after losing in court. Elliott could indeed do the same thing if/when non-neutral neutral arbitrator Harold Henderson rubber stamps the suspension.

Regardless of which side initiates the litigation (in Tom Brady‘s case, it was the league that filed suit), Elliott can seek a preliminary injunction, barring the league from suspending him until the case ends. It’s not an easy move, but NFL players (starting with the StarCaps case driven by former Vikings defensive tackles Pat and Kevin Williams) have had success in this regard.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...zekiel-elliott-is-hardly-out-of-the-question/

Personally, I'd only be for a delay if the delay can extend into next year. If at some point he absolutely has to serve a 6 game suspension this season, I'd prefer he get it out of the way in the beginning.

If we have to wait and he serves them the last 6 games, that could mean the difference between making the playoffs and not making them. Granted, in hindsight, missing the first ones could ultimately mean the same thing, but at least we would have Zeke to scratch and claw out wins in the end, should they become necessary as a result of missing games in the beginning, if that makes sense...

All of that said, I think this team can win without him...I just don't know that. Therein is my issue.

 

[Direwolf63]

They don't have anything that Jerry or Zeke haven't seen already.

This happened because of the process. And it's writhin the Commissioner's rights under the CBA. Zeke can fight it, but he's going to be suspended when it's all said and done.

Correct.

When they talk about going to federal court, it will be about whether or not the process to suspend Zeke was within the confines of the CBA.

There will be no she did this, or he did that, or she texted this. They will not be re-litigating that 160 page document in federal court. That will happen at the appeal next week.

The only question in federal court will be whether Goodell overstepped his authority in suspending Zeke. I don't believe he did. You can question the ruling itself. But I don't think you can question the fact that the process was within the CBA.

The only issue that may come up is the fairness issue. That is, Brown getting one game while Zeke got 6.

But at the end of the day, Zeke will get suspended. It's just of question of how many games.

 

[Reality]

Personally, I'd only be for a delay if the delay can extend into next year. If at some point he absolutely has to serve a 6 game suspension this season, I'd prefer he get it out of the way in the beginning.

If we have to wait and he serves them the last 6 games, that could mean the difference between making the playoffs and not making them. Granted, in hindsight, missing the first ones could ultimately mean the same thing, but at least we would have Zeke to scratch and claw out wins in the end, should they become necessary as a result of missing games in the beginning, if that makes sense...

All of that said, I think this team can win without him...I just don't know that. Therein is my issue.

I think the reason the Elliott defense would like a delay would be because they likely think they can beat this where most suspended players are usually guilty and are just fighting the length of the suspension. Brady's was delayed because his defense team thought they would beat it as well.

If Elliott has to server any suspension of any length, I just hope it starts with game #2 because of Mara

 

[The Fonz]

Personally, I'd only be for a delay if the delay can extend into next year. If at some point he absolutely has to serve a 6 game suspension this season, I'd prefer he get it out of the way in the beginning.

If we have to wait and he serves them the last 6 games, that could mean the difference between making the playoffs and not making them. Granted, in hindsight, missing the first ones could ultimately mean the same thing, but at least we would have Zeke to scratch and claw out wins in the end, should they become necessary as a result of missing games in the beginning, if that makes sense...

All of that said, I think this team can win without him...I just don't know that. Therein is my issue.

The team indeed can win without him.