News: PFT: Federal judge reinstates Ezekiel Elliott suspension

Sage3030

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This is why a PC Policy was needed. Because many of these charges won’t be prosecuted.

The NFL wanted a mechanism in place to discipline their players to provide a perception the league was sensitive to these issues in an attempt to protect the leagues image.

Being found guilty of DV under the NFL PC Policy doesn’t mean they are a “ women beater”. But there was enough evidence to administer the suspension . Big difference . I’m not sure all fans understand the difference?

Like I said. The core issue is with the PC Policy. Once you fully understand it’s intention you’ll better understand the decision.

I don’t think you get that the NFL said he engaged in physical force against a woman that caused her injuries, on multiple occasions, so they are, in fact, calling him a woman beater.

I know this is the third post of yours I’ve responded with the same thing, but dang man.... at least understand they are definitely calling him a woman beater.
 

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Don't waste your time arguing with that doofus.. Read his posting history and you'll understand

I get it, but dang that’s just not reading or understanding what the NFL has actually said about it and trying to make the NFL not look like they are saying he is one.
 

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I whole heartily agree,,, I truly believe had #21 not been drafted by Dallas but went to ANY OTHER TEAM this investigation wouldn't have taken 13 months to conduct AND they wouldn't have found grounds for suspension, cuz' there aren't any legally proven o_O
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No, the NFL said he abused her and gave him 6 games. They “convicted” him of beating a woman multiple times. They(the NFL) said he used physical force against her resulting in injuries multiple times

While dv falls under the pcp, so does drug testing. So yeah, he violated the pcp on domestic violence(hence the 6 games and the threat of total banishment for the next accusation).
Using physical force doesn’t necessarily define “beating a women”. That could be pushing, shoving, etc.

Yep except failing a drug test doesn’t carry a minimum 6 game suspension.
 
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You are arguing semantics... What else would Domestic Violence be considered?
I’m arguing the specifics in what your interpreting To what was actually said by the NFL officially.

DV is not necessarily defined as “ women beating “. DV can be caused from physical violence without raising a hand to her in what most would describe as beating a women.
 

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I’m arguing the specifics in what your interpreting To what was actually said by the NFL officially.

DV is not necessarily defined as “ women beating “. DV can be caused from physical violence without raising a hand to her in what most would describe as beating a women.

I just can't with you man... How do you cause physical violence with out physically touching her? Excluding the use a firearm
 

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I’ve seen large physically strong athletic men cause bruises from grabbing, shoving or pushing a women without ever clinching a fist even a backhand or slap. Ive been around athletes most of my life and have seen my share of DV where they never hit the girl causing much worse bruising than what we saw on Ms Thompson.
 

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I just can't with you man... How do you cause physical violence with out physically touching her? Excluding the use a firearm
I get what your saying but I’m arguing a detail which is important in describing the incident .

Your saying because of the DV suspension he will be labeled a women beater. I get that. I’m just saying that’s not necessarily what DV always defines. There are other forms physical violence without actually beating the women.

From the bruises I saw in the photo Id say he didn’t actually beat her or they’d be much deeper and darker bruises . Those look more like he used brute force in shoving her up against something like a wall or car. I’m not an expert just a broker who sold life insurance and annuities to athletes.
 

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I’m arguing the specifics in what your interpreting To what was actually said by the NFL officially.

"You used physical force that caused injuries to Ms. Thompson's arms, neck and shoulders."

"You used physical force that caused injuries to Ms. Thompson's face, arms, wrists and hands."

"You used physical force that caused injuries to Ms. Thompson's face, neck, arms knee and hips."

EZEKIEL ELLIOTT ATTACKED GIRLFRIEND 3 TIMES... NFL Says
 

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I get what your saying but I’m arguing a detail which is important in describing the incident .

Your saying because of the DV suspension he will be labeled a women beater. I get that. I’m just saying that’s not necessarily what DV always defines. There are other forms physical violence without actually beating the women.

From the bruises I saw in the photo Id say he didn’t actually beat her or they’d be much deeper and darker bruises . Those look more like he used brute force in shoving her up against something like a wall or car. I’m not an expert just a broker who sold life insurance and annuities to athletes.

I've never seen anyone who says/thinks Domestic Violence, and comes to the conclusion he didn't physically beat her. Nobody cares about the details and that is the problem... You realize that opposing fans call him a woman beater now right?

Damage is done
 
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I've never seen anyone who says/thinks Domestic Violence, and comes to the conclusion he didn't physically beat her. Nobody cares about the details and that is the problem... You realize that opposing fans call him a woman beater now right?

Damage is done
That’s what I’m saying ...they are labeling him a women beater. Of course I understand it. Thats how people often describe a man who causes injury with physical violence . It doesn’t mean he clenched his fist and beat her. But it’s still described as DV if she’s hurt.

Personally I believe he’s guilty of DV but I don’t believe he beat her with his fist. Not from those pics anyway or she would have looked much worse. Those look more like physical violence as I’m trying to describe to you.

Labeling someone a women beater without proven evidence is a lazy uneducated description. Not all men who are guilty of DV are women beaters.
 

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"You used physical force that caused injuries to Ms. Thompson's arms, neck and shoulders."

"You used physical force that caused injuries to Ms. Thompson's face, arms, wrists and hands."

"You used physical force that caused injuries to Ms. Thompson's face, neck, arms knee and hips."

EZEKIEL ELLIOTT ATTACKED GIRLFRIEND 3 TIMES... NFL Says
I define beating a women as clinching your fist, backhanding or using a blunt instrument or object.

DV is defined as using physical force which might not include beating her but shoving, slamming , pushing or grabbing her.
 
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I define beating a women as clinching your fist, backhanding or using a blunt instrument or obstacle.

DV is defined as using physical force which might not include beating her but shoving, slamming , pushing or grabbing her.

It’s about people public perception of what the NFL accuses Zeke of.

******** you are dense as a rock.
 
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