Mark Schlereth agrees with Larry Fedora's comments and expresses his feelings about football's CTE

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Not everyone has the same experiences with head trauma. While I think the general media going on witch hunts is the world we live in now, I still think there needs to be more done to protect the possibility of injuries. Players are bigger, faster and stronger and the pads and protection gets smaller and lighter.
 

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Guy loses job, fights with wife, wife leaves with kids, house gone, family gone, guy kills himself.

Guy plays football makes good $, woman, lifestyle, guys stops playing football, no more money, no more woman, no more lifestyle, guy kills himself.

I don't see much of a difference.
Boil it down sir!!
 

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Yes, I'm supposed to accept the opinion of a former football player with no medical training whose livelihood depends on football?

Got it
 

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I mean, he's welcome to hold that opinion. He's wrong but it's his right.

The scientific link between CTE and football is so overwhelming that to deny it at this point is no less absurd than claiming vaccines cause autism.

Actually, the scientific data is incredibly weak. The conclusion was written well before the testing. The Scientific Method is all but dead in that world.

Can brain injuries lead to problems later in life? Of course. Especially for certain people apparently.

My kids are high-level athletes, and I've spoken to many doctors about this. There is very little understood about why some people are very prone to concussions, while others are not. Why do some deal with issues later on, while others heal fine and never experience an after effect.

The problem is, there's a huge agenda, particularly in Academicia, to eliminate football altogether. (The target is the American sports conscious, and football is at the top, so cut the head off the snake.) That ilk detests the attention it gets and the acquiescence they have to give it at big schools.

Old people deal with mental regression.. Not playing football won't change that. And playing football isn't necessarily a cause for any of it.

This study just began. Making conclusions is just lazy and predetermined.

Schlereth played a long, long time, and he's more intelligent and coherent than 95 percent of the planet.
 

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Do the poor kids work incredibly hard to get there, or are they blessed with natural, God given abilities that regular people like you and me can only dream about? Maybe it’s a combination?

Ever seen what goes on in a high school for a star football player? Ever read about the corruption starting in middle school for players who are able to dominate in sports?

I work in a high school that has sent about 7 or 8 players to the NFL over the last 15 years. I have seen it first hand- everything literally handed to them by the time they were 13 years old. Sure they work hard in football, but many frequently neglect everything else, including school work and even school attendance.

This narrative you push about the families making a ton of sacrifices to put them in a position to succeed is mostly not true. Maybe in some cases- overwhelmingly it is not.

Wow. I really appreciate your endorsement of numerous stereotypes here.

God given talent over effort.

Jocks being allowed to ignore academics.

Lazy families not contributing.

You keep on grasping to these beliefs! It must be threayening to think that these kids and their families actually work harder than those with more advantaged backgrounds.
 

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Yes, I'm supposed to accept the opinion of a former football player with no medical training whose livelihood depends on football?

Got it
So a guy that played football all his life and now coaches football gets no opinion even though he might not know a single player that he played with or coached that has shown signs of Brain Damage

But some Harvard study with a Small Sample Size of hand picked brains is the gospel truth....I think that line of thinking is very short sighted

If less than 1% of players are affected by CTE then football may not be the cause

My Great Aunt used to say that if she had to do something 20 times a day for 50 years before she got sick then maybe it wasn't that dangerous and she lived into her 80's smoking and drinking whiskey
 

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Wow. I really appreciate your endorsement of numerous stereotypes here.

God given talent over effort.

Jocks being allowed to ignore academics.

Lazy families not contributing.

You keep on grasping to these beliefs! It must be threayening to think that these kids and their families actually work harder than those with more advantaged backgrounds.
It is not just a stereotype if he personally lived it several times

Who made you the spokesman for the underprivileged inner city future star....if anyone is stereotyping it is you....how do you know how hard they work vs rich kids?
 

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Actually, the scientific data is incredibly weak. The conclusion was written well before the testing. The Scientific Method is all but dead in that world.

Can brain injuries lead to problems later in life? Of course. Especially for certain people apparently.

My kids are high-level athletes, and I've spoken to many doctors about this. There is very little understood about why some people are very prone to concussions, while others are not. Why do some deal with issues later on, while others heal fine and never experience an after effect.

The problem is, there's a huge agenda, particularly in Academicia, to eliminate football altogether. (The target is the American sports conscious, and football is at the top, so cut the head off the snake.) That ilk detests the attention it gets and the acquiescence they have to give it at big schools.

Old people deal with mental regression.. Not playing football won't change that. And playing football isn't necessarily a cause for any of it.

This study just began. Making conclusions is just lazy and predetermined.

Schlereth played a long, long time, and he's more intelligent and coherent than 95 percent of the planet.
Another conspiracy theory related to scientific findings...really? We just gonna keep doing this every time the scientific community tells us something we don't want to hear? Happened with tobacco, global warming, vaccines and now CTE. The scientific community is not out to get us.
 

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Another conspiracy theory related to scientific findings...really? We just gonna keep doing this every time the scientific community tells us something we don't want to hear? Happened with tobacco, global warming, vaccines and now CTE. The scientific community is not out to get us.
Global Warming????? .........You just spiked your own case

Global warming is biggest hoax ever based on juked numbers and voo doo science
 

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Another conspiracy theory related to scientific findings...really? We just gonna keep doing this every time the scientific community tells us something we don't want to hear? Happened with tobacco, global warming, vaccines and now CTE. The scientific community is not out to get us.

There are MOUNTAINS of inaccuracies in those subjects, but this ain't the place.
 

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Still hanging out there is this information the NFL is trying to keep away from the players' attorneys in this lawsuit. What did they know and when did they know it?

CTE is real but still a lot is unknown and autopsies are the only way to really diagnose it.

They're not going to stop these concussions even with this new rule as that hasn't stopped them in college. But they are trying to do something and the last thing the NFL wanted to do was add more stop downs to the game with more judgment calls that will be questioned by the media.

The thing I think they've been lax on is the information to the players. Inform them and let them decide whether to proceed making enough money in 8 years to set them up for a lifetime. After all of this CTE news, one player has hung it up because of that, the LB from SF. The rest see it as worth taking the risk, at least so far.

It seems to be such a hit or miss disease, I wonder why players like Butkus, Singletary and Woodson don't have it? Or Atwater, Plank or these other D players that hit like freight trains and no way their heads weren't involved.

But it seems evident that Tony D has it and it is very sad to watch him try to string together sentences. But I have yet to hear him say he regrets his career.
 

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So a guy that played football all his life and now coaches football gets no opinion even though he might not know a single player that he played with or coached that has shown signs of Brain Damage

But some Harvard study with a Small Sample Size of hand picked brains is the gospel truth....I think that line of thinking is very short sighted

If less than 1% of players are affected by CTE then football may not be the cause

My Great Aunt used to say that if she had to do something 20 times a day for 50 years before she got sick then maybe it wasn't that dangerous and she lived into her 80's smoking and drinking whiskey

So smoking doesn't cause lung disease and cancer and drinking doesn't cause liver disease because your mom lived to be 80?

You know what they say: sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut than to open it and remove all doubt as to your level of intelligence
 

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I agree that football is not good for your health nor is boxing or MMA fighters. Players entering the sport should be aware
 

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Of course there is a connection. These guys are human battering rams. Don’t mean there isn’t other things that contribute to it. Some are genetically prone to getting brain injuries easier that others. Maybe a link between certain positions in the game getting easier. How many punters and kickers get it as opposed to LB? It’s kind of common sense. Everyone knows if you take head shots for years there is gonna be some damage. Look at boxers. Are they gonna stop boxing or MMA?

They make lots of money so they can retire early. And for the risk. Hazard pay. Lol.
 

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There are just inherent dangers in some contact sports, just look at Boxing and MMA with intentional head blows.

As long as the NFL makes rules to protect players and the targeting rule is a good rule, the helmet should not be a weapon, they're OK.

But don't you think the additional risk factor with concussions and CTE adds a little bit of excitement for a lot of fans? The fact that the NFL is not just a contact sport but a collision one draws a lot of people. No player, except Romo, brought fans to their feet like a Roy OU Williams de-cleat hit. Hell, they created "Jacked Up" because of Roy and the NFL used to promo just the big hits. Then they changed it to the circus catches but I'd be lying if I said those monster hits didn't fire me up.
 

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It seems to be such a hit or miss disease, I wonder why players like Butkus, Singletary and Woodson don't have it? Or Atwater, Plank or these other D players that hit like freight trains and no way their heads weren't involved.

But it seems evident that Tony D has it and it is very sad to watch him try to string together sentences. But I have yet to hear him say he regrets his career.

And we saw every carry of Tony Dorsett's career. He avoided hits all the time. Found the turf when it got crowded. Stepped out of bounds before the big blow. Too fast to get a great shot on him. I don't ever remember him getting clocked.

Meanwhile, Roger was concussed mulitiple times and built a billion-dollar real estate business and seems fine in his 70s.
 

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Global Warming????? .........You just spiked your own case

Global warming is biggest hoax ever based on juked numbers and voo doo science
Don't you love it when people with absolutely no real knowledge on a scientific subject come to the conclusion (because they've decided to politicize something that has nothing to do with politics) that an entire scientific field (made up of individuals from all around the world) has it wrong about its particular area of expertise? Yes, all of the scientists are in on the hoax together and so are all of the countries outside of America that take this problem seriously. Only that small percentage of you have it right, kudos!
 
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