Dak Prescott wasn't the problem against the Houston Texans

Whyjerry

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He might not be the problem but ive grown sick of watching him

Yes I believe in him , yes i want him to suceed but at this point i just rather not see him


I am sick of watching him getting off the ground.
 

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Yeah and OTHER Receivers catch those TOO high balls all the time. You guys are flat out giving these second string Cowboy WRs too much credit. The Receivers on this team suck....period.
Hell Watson was throwing to guys who were WIDE OPEN almost all night! When was the last time you seen a Cowboy Receiver open let alone wide open?? Hell dak is putting the ball the only place he can! and these jokers still can't catch it!
Right. Nothing wrong with Prescott...it's just everybody else. Did your kool-aid come with cupcakes and a napkin too?
 

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Garrett is A problem we can fix right now. Fire him. He's too safe and feckless.
 

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It's not stats, it's not scheme, and it's not totally coaching. Teams attack the Cowboys differently than other teams because they know Dak's limitations. He telegraphs his throws with his wind up. In the NFL, that split second added to your delivery can kill you. He has zero touch on his passes. See that last pass by Watson? A soft accurate floater my little sister could catch. Dak would rifle that pass, probably over the receivers head. Once he starts getting pressured, he starts dancing. He never ever, for any reason, ever steps up in the pocket. He looks to break containment. Almost all his catch-able passes to the sideline yesterday were low, ankle shots. He never hits people in stride. It's all comeback routes where the receiver is hardly moving and he can aim his throw. Even his quick passes behind the line of scrimmage are low and short. He is what he is. His game management may have improved slightly in the last 2 years, but that's it. That tired excuse of what about 2016 doesn't fly anymore. RG3 had a rookie of the year first season to.

When behind center, looks at a blitzer and yells a bunch of nonsense, but nobody picks that guy up. Whats he saying? Is he changing the play? If he is, why does he then hold the ball forever? What most people see as bad coaching, can also be seen as they are desperately trying to hide Dak's flaws, his tendencies. What really sucks is with just above average QB play, the Cowboys probably win that game last night.

If it's all coaching, you can bet the house, the next coach they bring in will be looking to replace Dak, or he wont take the job.

Dak is a great backup. That's his future.

With the 5th pick in the 2019 draft. The Dallas Cowboys select Justin Herbert QB Oregon
This should be a sticky post for those who insist on believing it is still 2016. It ain't. Much has changed in two years.
 

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You won't get an argument from me on Garrett.

But I am coming to the reality that they need a new QB sooner, rather than later.
this weeks game aginst the jags will tell us all we need to know. We lose, heads will roll..guarantee you that. The jags are limping around and can be had. If we blow it..the team ,players and coaches will be gone soon. Garrett included.
 

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forget his rookie year? why? He was nearly unstoppable that year. Yes..something clearly is wrong with the way he processes info and makes his reads,I give you that,but don't you think its logical to put it into perspective? He has lost a ton of his quality cast around him. He is who he is...a Donovan McNabb type guy.He has to find a guy he can trust before getting on a rhythm. He has no one right now...MAYBE SWAIM lol

Rick Mirer

Great rookie season downhill from there.

Dak is going the same route.

Each season he has went down hill.

He is not nearly unstoppable this year, if anything he is the opposite.
Remembering his rookie year is not going to help him now nor should this front office look at that one year and decide to pay him franchise QB money and contract hoping he will get back to that miracle of a season.
 

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You won't get an argument from me on Garrett.

But I am coming to the reality that they need a new QB sooner, rather than later.
The Cowboys need receiving weapons more than a QB.
 

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Rick Mirer

Great rookie season downhill from there.

Dak is going the same route.

Each season he has went down hill.

He is not nearly unstoppable this year, if anything he is the opposite.
Remembering his rookie year is not going to help him now nor should this front office look at that one year and decide to pay him franchise QB money and contract hoping he will get back to that miracle of a season.

This is a hugely scary thought with the Jones' boys in charge.
 

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The Thompson one did not. The defender was able to stick his hand in there and knock the ball down. So that's not an accurate throw.

And the one to Austin did hit Austin in the hands but Austin had to stretch out when he was running a deep in and was wide open. So knock Austin if you want, but the pass also wasn't very good. I think you are so in the tank for Prescott that you are struggling to admit some realities here.
no..Dak hasn't been right since last year...time for him to be accountable..not in the tank.Im open to changes as long as they do not set the team back. Dak hasn't been right...but what happened last night had little to do with Dak and more to do with coaching or lack thereof in situations,poor oline play, and shoddy receivers. I have faith in Dak. Maybe Im in the minority.. I don't mind being wrong. Lets let this play out.
 

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He was definitely part of the problem. That throw was high on the int.
way high..dak is who he is the FO will have to decide if that enough and having an offense that struggles to score more then 17, can they live with this? defense is trying hard but is on the field way too long and get tired late which led to some of the poor tacking late in the 4th and OT..its bigger issue then just how Dak is playing but how his average to below AVG play is effecting the rest of the team...so to the OP yes it was Dak on a lot of those INT that are being tipped..Not the Gallup one earlier in the season that hit his square in the hands at his waste, the ones where receivers have nearly no chance fully extended to catch, those are on Dak.. he threw a lot of errant passes and more worm burners to open guys AGAIN..IDK if we had Watkins and Ridley and a better TE here, Daks issues are not that fixable, hes inconsistent and at time very Inaccurate..lete be clear hes average at best and the GM/Ownes will have to decide if AVG is what they want at QB for the DC in 2019/2020 and beyond..I see himas a really good Bup and competion needs to be brought in to at least give this team chance to find a better QB before Daks contract is up..at this point I dont resign him to ahuge starter contract..let him tst the open market and then decide , dont bid against ourselves offering him a contract he wants..
 

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They need both. Again, I think people are fooling themselves thinking Dak suddenly becomes an upper echelon QB if they give him better WRs.

The reason Dak was good in 2016 is because Dez still commanded respect from the D as a #1 (attracted double coverage at times), Witten was still on the team, and Zeke was good.

In 2017, when Zeke was suspended the offense suffered. Same as when Emmitt did not play in games with Aikman and Irvin..

Dak is struggling this season because there is no #1 WR, no proven TE (Swaim is like a #2 TE), and Zeke is beat up.
 

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no..Dak hasn't been right since last year...time for him to be accountable..not in the tank.Im open to changes as long as they do not set the team back. Dak hasn't been right...but what happened last night had little to do with Dak and more to do with coaching or lack thereof in situations,poor oline play, and shoddy receivers. I have faith in Dak. Maybe Im in the minority.. I don't mind being wrong. Lets let this play out.

That's simply not true. Last night had a lot to do with him....... and the coaches and the WRs.
 

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I've been tracking how Prescott responds when pressured consistently in games because his history is that consistent pressure gets into his head and destroys his game. I don't have the info yet, but this is probably going to be another one of those 40% pressure games, and his passer rating was about exactly his career average in such games.

That said, Dak played his heart out, and didn't seem rattled by the pressure this time. A researcher recently pointed out that Dak's current group of new (to him) receivers is good at finding open areas in a zone, but not good at getting separation in man, and that this is a bad match for Dak's strengths. This is the main reason why he leads the NFL in throws into tight windows -- he's usually targeting a receiver who isn't really that open, so there are a lot of contested and tipped balls.

With better anticipation (and more experience for Prescott) against zones we might start to see more open windows. Until then, the play designers will have to continue to scheme guys open as best they can, considering the limitations -- whether those be the limitations of the QB, the receivers, or their own.
 

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The reason Dak was good in 2016 is because Dez still commanded respect from the D as a #1 (attracted double coverage at times), Witten was still on the team, and Zeke was good.

When Zeke was suspended the offense suffered. Same as when Emmitt did not play in games with Aikman and Irvin..

Dak is struggling this season because there is no #1 WR, no proven TE (Swaim is like a #2 TE), and Zeke is beat up.

And I would buy this if the tape was backing this up. But as has been shown, Prescott has been missing WRs, making poor decisions, been much more inaccurate.

He's just not the answer at QB, unfortunately.
 
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