The McVay-Riley Dynamic

[Verdict]

He’s be stupid to leave OU if it’s about job security and control over players.

If he wants glory then come win in Dallas. He’d be a legend.

Don't forget money. He is almost certain to make more money in his career at OU than Dallas long term.

 

[Colombiacowboy]

Would love to have Riley but why in the hell would he choose Dysfunction Dallas over the 6-8 other openings?

One would think the other 6-8 openings would also be somewhat dysfunctional...hence they are looking for a coach. Plus, Dallas is still a draw for a lot of people. Where you may be correct is a lot of coaches may be unwilling to work for JJ.

 

[Diehardblues]

One would think the other 6-8 openings would also be somewhat dysfunctional...hence they are looking for a coach. Plus, Dallas is still a draw for a lot of people. Where you may be correct is a lot of coaches may be unwilling to work for JJ.

Correct and what I’m referring to.

 

[nate dizzle]

Don't forget money. He is almost certain to make more money in his career at OU than Dallas long term.

The college $ will always be there. Even if he only lasted say, 3 years in Dallas and failed mightily, he would still be able to go back to college and make the same if not more than he does now.

 

[Whyjerry]

The Lincoln Riley lovefest confuses me. You watch Oklahoma? They play zero defense. Zero. Sean McVey was a successful OC for the Commanders for 3 years before the Rams job. That guy was ready. Lincoln Riley had a short run as an OC in the Big 12. Before that a positions coach at East Carolina. Anyone would be better than Garrett but for the love of God can we stop comparing Riley to McVey.

Huge risk hiring Riley. Huge.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I said from the beginning that Garrett was safe because he's family and Booger is comfortable and every time some talk surfaces about Garrett being on the hot seat, Booger throws ice on that. Until now.

However, I am changing my mind because of the obvious effect Sean McVay had on Goff and the offense overall and Riley's rep as a QB guru. Same kind of coach with the same kind of personality.

Now, add to this, OU has the best OL in college ball so he's not just a QB guy and if they hadn't lost one of the best RB's in college in Anderson, they would be even harder to handle.

Add to this, it has recently come out that Riley would be interested in the NFL and sooner than later. Probably got that guy in Rodger's State Farm commercials as his agent.

So, if he's already letting it be known and he's considered this QB guru, what do the Cowboys need for the young QB they seem to want to keep?

There are going to be 6-8 HC openings and Riley will be the top college name but he's not coming for an OC gig, they're going to have to give him the reins to get him.

I now believe Garrett would have to do something extraordinary for him like win a couple of playoff games and get to the NFC Champs game or Riley is going to be the next DC HC.

Sadly, no. All Garrett probably has to do is keep them in the playoff hunt at least until the last week or two of the season and Jones will keep him.

 

[CATCH17]

The Lincoln Riley lovefest confuses me. You watch Oklahoma? They play zero defense. Zero. Sean McVey was a successful OC for the Commanders for 3 years before the Rams job. That guy was ready. Lincoln Riley had a short run as an OC in the Big 12. Before that a positions coach at East Carolina. Anyone would be better than Garrett but for the love of God can we stop comparing Riley to McVey.

Huge risk hiring Riley. Huge.

I agree and I’m ok with taking that risk..

He doesn’t come across as a stubborn guy that won’t adjust until it’s too late.

 

[Whyjerry]

I agree and I’m ok with taking that risk..

He doesn’t come across as a stubborn guy that won’t adjust until it’s too late.

My point is there are much better options. If you went college Shaw would be my guy.

 

[cern]

Just keeping his name out there will make Garrett better. Make him coach scared for his job.

 

[ClintDagger]

I said from the beginning that Garrett was safe because he's family and Booger is comfortable and every time some talk surfaces about Garrett being on the hot seat, Booger throws ice on that. Until now.

However, I am changing my mind because of the obvious effect Sean McVay had on Goff and the offense overall and Riley's rep as a QB guru. Same kind of coach with the same kind of personality.

Now, add to this, OU has the best OL in college ball so he's not just a QB guy and if they hadn't lost one of the best RB's in college in Anderson, they would be even harder to handle.

Add to this, it has recently come out that Riley would be interested in the NFL and sooner than later. Probably got that guy in Rodger's State Farm commercials as his agent.

So, if he's already letting it be known and he's considered this QB guru, what do the Cowboys need for the young QB they seem to want to keep?

There are going to be 6-8 HC openings and Riley will be the top college name but he's not coming for an OC gig, they're going to have to give him the reins to get him.

I now believe Garrett would have to do something extraordinary for him like win a couple of playoff games and get to the NFC Champs game or Riley is going to be the next DC HC.

I think Riley is the guy. Jerry wants him, thinks he’s the next McVay. And Riley is clearly sending signals he wants to go to the NFL.

It seems that whatever trance Jerry was in over JG has been broken. I think Jerry already has his eye on LR and I think it will be very hard for JG to win him back over.

 

[Direwolf63]

My point is there are much better options. If you went college Shaw would be my guy.

I like Shaw but he's not the offensive innovator this team and Dak desperately needs.

Shaw had Andrew Luck. He was is a generational talent. Other than him his QB's have been underwhelming. And I'm being kind.

Is Riley a risk? Sure. But I'm ready to take it today.

 

[Direwolf63]

I think Riley is the guy. Jerry wants him, thinks he’s the next McVay. And Riley is clearly sending signals he wants to go to the NFL.

It seems that whatever trance Jerry was in over JG has been broken. I think Jerry already has his eye on LR and I think it will be very hard for JG to win him back over.

This is pure speculation. But I hope you turn out to be correct.

 

[ClintDagger]

This is pure speculation. But I hope you turn out to be correct.

It’s not my speculation, it’s basically what Rapoport said. Jerry has a one track mind. If he’s fantasizing about LR coaching his team then it means he has given up on JG. Jerry won’t say that publicly as he fancies himself a motivator. But it’s not hard to read between the lines here.

 

[CCBoy]

I’m a huge Texas Tech fan and although I like Kliff Kingsburyas an excellent offensive football mind, he is not a very good college head coach and would likely not be a good NFL HC. He would be a great OC, but not HC. While HC at a Tech, Kingsbury is 35-38.

One thing I would endorse him for is his QB development. Before his time at Tech, he was OC at Texas A&M and developed Johnny Manziel, and before that he was at Univ of Houston, where he developed Case Keenum. At Tech, 4 of his former QBs are currently playing in the NFL including Pat Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, Davis Webb and Nic Shimonek. Kingsbury is famous for taking raw QB talent and making it into something. This year, his true freshman QB Alan Bowman was leading the nation in passing for a while before getting hurt.

Sign me on as to adding this Coach to the staff of Dallas...!

 

[Carter]

I prefer Riley but dont think he Comes here without Gruden-like Power.

Another interesting Option is Dana Holgorsen from WV.

OKST broke every Offensive Record when he was OC there in 2010. They have one of the best Offenses and are a Top10 Team now at West Virginia where hes been HC for 7 Years now.

The Red Raiders were No. 7 nationally prior to Holgorsen becoming offensive coordinator and raised their yardage total to No. 4 in 2005, his first season directing the offense. In his two years as offensive coordinator, his squad was nationally ranked No. 8 in 2006 and No. 3 in 2007. In 2007, Texas Tech led the nation in passing (470.31), was No. 2 in total offense (529.62) and was No. 7 in scoring offense (40.9). Quarterback Graham Harrell led the nation in total offense

When Holgorsen was hired at Oklahoma State, the Cowboys' offense was ranked No. 61 nationally in total offense. In his first season the offense led the nation in total offense, averaging 537.6 yards per game, was No. 2 in passing offense, averaging 354.7 yards per game, and No. 3 in scoring offense, averaging 44.9 points per game

He also mentored Kingsbury when he was at Houston.

But since Garrett is here for another 10 years of processing cause hes Jerrys Lovechild nothing will Change.

 

[Captain43Crash]

I said from the beginning that Garrett was safe because he's family and Booger is comfortable and every time some talk surfaces about Garrett being on the hot seat, Booger throws ice on that. Until now.

However, I am changing my mind because of the obvious effect Sean McVay had on Goff and the offense overall and Riley's rep as a QB guru. Same kind of coach with the same kind of personality.

Now, add to this, OU has the best OL in college ball so he's not just a QB guy and if they hadn't lost one of the best RB's in college in Anderson, they would be even harder to handle.

Add to this, it has recently come out that Riley would be interested in the NFL and sooner than later. Probably got that guy in Rodger's State Farm commercials as his agent.

So, if he's already letting it be known and he's considered this QB guru, what do the Cowboys need for the young QB they seem to want to keep?

There are going to be 6-8 HC openings and Riley will be the top college name but he's not coming for an OC gig, they're going to have to give him the reins to get him.

I now believe Garrett would have to do something extraordinary for him like win a couple of playoff games and get to the NFC Champs game or Riley is going to be the next DC HC.

I soooo hope you are right!

 

[Wood]

I said from the beginning that Garrett was safe because he's family and Booger is comfortable and every time some talk surfaces about Garrett being on the hot seat, Booger throws ice on that. Until now.

However, I am changing my mind because of the obvious effect Sean McVay had on Goff and the offense overall and Riley's rep as a QB guru. Same kind of coach with the same kind of personality.

Now, add to this, OU has the best OL in college ball so he's not just a QB guy and if they hadn't lost one of the best RB's in college in Anderson, they would be even harder to handle.

Add to this, it has recently come out that Riley would be interested in the NFL and sooner than later. Probably got that guy in Rodger's State Farm commercials as his agent.

So, if he's already letting it be known and he's considered this QB guru, what do the Cowboys need for the young QB they seem to want to keep?

There are going to be 6-8 HC openings and Riley will be the top college name but he's not coming for an OC gig, they're going to have to give him the reins to get him.

I now believe Garrett would have to do something extraordinary for him like win a couple of playoff games and get to the NFC Champs game or Riley is going to be the next DC HC.

Heard today that Jones like Riley so if Dallas doesn't get into playoffs this will pick up steam.

 

[Wood]

There are lots of potential options. I just hope Jerry doesn't have tunnel vision and makes Riley the only candidate. Let the process play out - have a handful of legitimate candidates with a chance and let them prove something to you in the interview process. Riley would be interesting but there are also current NFL assistants who should be in the discussion

trust me - you don't want to see rest of that list. This is likely what it looks like:

* Riley
* Norv Turner
* Jack Del Rio
* John Fox
* Sean Payton
* Josh McDaniels

Now Payton & McDaniels wouldn't be horrible choices but I think this franchise needs shot across the bow HC signing and Riley would fit that.

 

[peaveyman]

peavey, don't listen to Greg, it's real. He's just jealous because he digs him some ginger.

I will say this, there usually is fire beneath the smoke because everyone seems to talk. There are at least 96 employees of NFL teams named Anonymous Source. I suspect agents are behind it and everything else including fake news.

Riley hasn't come out and said he isn't interested so he's playing the game the right way.

As much as I love the Cowboys I don't want Riley coming to work for the Jones boys. He has too good a thing going at OU.

 

[Diehardblues]

I’m a huge Texas Tech fan and although I like Kliff Kingsburyas an excellent offensive football mind, he is not a very good college head coach and would likely not be a good NFL HC. He would be a great OC, but not HC. While HC at a Tech, Kingsbury is 35-38.

One thing I would endorse him for is his QB development. Before his time at Tech, he was OC at Texas A&M and developed Johnny Manziel, and before that he was at Univ of Houston, where he developed Case Keenum. At Tech, 4 of his former QBs are currently playing in the NFL including Pat Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, Davis Webb and Nic Shimonek. Kingsbury is famous for taking raw QB talent and making it into something. This year, his true freshman QB Alan Bowman was leading the nation in passing for a while before getting hurt.

This is a fair analysis of Kingsbury but I think he’s a better HC than his record indicates.

It’s always been tough recruiting in Lubbock. Reminds me of Gundy at OK ST trying to out recruit Sooners.

But with these type of great offensive minds and passing arsenals they attract talented QB’s. And they do a great job developing them.

It’s always comes down to the talent. And these better schemes rise to the top when they have the talent.

Just like with Briles at Baylor. His amazing schemes uplifted Baylor with a handful of talent with RGIII but that success allowed him to out recruit others in the state ultimately providing him more talent which led to back to back championships and national contention.

A great coach can uplift like we saw Bill do in 2003 with a 5-11 team but without more talent when going up against greater talent will most often lose out.

Riley has done a good job with more talent than the rest of the conference so far. I suspect with less talent on a NFL team we’ll see less success.

And since he inherited this talent with Stoops we don’t know if he’s a good recruiter or team builder yet. I’d think he’d rather go to a situation with a more talented QB like in Clev, AZ or NYJ.