Not running Zeke in final possession

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He should have, however the game ended perfect. I can't second guess. I will savor this thick cut Rib-eye.

How did it end perfect? It was waaaay too close for comfort. They got down to the 15 yard line and time ran out. Had they one more play in them, they likely get the TD.

Just another example of Garrett bumbling the end of game in a situation where it was almost impossible to bumble. Run Zeke 3 times is all the fool had to do.
 

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This is why as great as the win was, and much needed. I hope the fact of bone head play calling doesn't get lost in the euphoria of the win.

Come the end of our season, both Garrett and Linehan need to go ! O, and take Moore with them.

Again, the win was great. Shutting up the Eagles is always a great thing. But, the circumstances of the season and our coaching staff does not change one iota.

If you think that was poor play calling, I don't. As I mentioned before I will not defend Garrett for how this season has gone thus fat but in terms of the last 3 plays of this game I don't see any mistake in play calling and I say that as one who felt it would have been better to have Dak fake the hand off and run it himself off the read option.
 

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how do you not run zeke on that final possession!? Throw a screen to Beasley !?

Love the win ! But seriously it’s time to fire Linehan.

They did run Zeke on first down. And I don't have a problem with Dak keeping the ball once - eliminates a possible mistake on the exchange. But the pass to Beasley was a head scratcher. Obviously a high chance of a completion, but had the ball been incomplete for any reason it would have allowed Philly to hold onto a timeout for their last possession.
 

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why? I think actually that was a good safe call. one that worked through out the game...there was too much time left on the clock with philly having 3 TOs....you knew, everyone knew that Philly is going to stack the line to stop the run, because dallas wanted to run out the clock and they had three time outs....so you have no chance of running against them, when all they do is going to focus on stopping the run.....the screen play, to the outside, would/could provide a 1:1 opportunity...it would be a safe play, either it won't work like the run wouldn't (and didn't) or we gain a few yards and the defense has to now worry about another screen.
Too many factors that would have aided in helping to preserve an Eagles timeout...

Dont forget Dak isnt the most accurate QB already and even routine throws he seems to miss with terrible regularity...

Toss in the fact he was throwing it to the smallest dude on the roster

And probably the biggest reason I was against this was that Zeke even against stacked box all night had a YPC at that time of like 8.5 a touch
 

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Too many factors that would have aided in helping to preserve an Eagles timeout...

Dont forget Dak isnt the most accurate QB already and even routine throws he seems to miss with terrible regularity...

Toss in the fact he was throwing it to the smallest dude on the roster

And probably the biggest reason I was against this was that Zeke even against stacked box all night had a YPC at that time of like 8.5 a touch
that last series wasn't just a stacked box, they didn't have to guess, they knew he was coming....that was a 10 man box. with one mission. stop zeke. the previous play, he ran against a stacked box and he lost 3 yards.... so what do you do? run against a 10, 11 man front and they call three timeouts and one minute on the clock...so you have to try something different. something safe. something that doesn't stop the clock. the screen pass was the safest and if Dak couldn't/didn't complete that pass, I would want his arse off the team IMMEDIATLEY...... no defending dak then.
 

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that last series wasn't just a stacked box, they didn't have to guess, they knew he was coming....that was a 10 man box. with one mission. stop zeke. the previous play, he ran against a stacked box and he lost 3 yards.... so what do you do? run against a 10, 11 man front and they call three timeouts and one minute on the clock...so you have to try something different. something safe. something that doesn't stop the clock. the screen pass was the safest and if Dak couldn't/didn't complete that pass, I would want his arse off the team IMMEDIATLEY...... no defending dak then.

Lol its impossible for them to have had a 10 man box when we had trips out to the edge... If they did stack 10 men and only left 1 dude out on the trips that screen should have gone for a TD

You do know the defense is only allowed 11 players on the field to match the offenses 11 players right?

Oh and heres this for ya with Zeke against your dreaded "stacked boxes"

 

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Lol its impossible for them to have had a 10 man box when we had trips out to the edge... If they did stack 10 men and only left 1 dude out on the trips that screen should have gone for a TD

You do know the defense is only allowed 11 players on the field to match the offenses 11 players right?

Oh and heres this for ya with Zeke against your dreaded "stacked boxes"


they played man out there on the edge. they had 10 boxed up at LOS area, to stop the run up the middle and contain the edge..... 10 in the box, doesn't necessarily mean 10 in the middle......

and those stats are when there is threat of a run or pass. its still not 10 lined up at the LOS, around the OL, focused on one player and one player only and worried about one play and one play only..

come on dude.... Zeke did run against that very defensive line up on the first down...result was 3 yard loss.
 

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Lol its impossible for them to have had a 10 man box when we had trips out to the edge... If they did stack 10 men and only left 1 dude out on the trips that screen should have gone for a TD

You do know the defense is only allowed 11 players on the field to match the offenses 11 players right?

Oh and heres this for ya with Zeke against your dreaded "stacked boxes"


Stacked boxes are ripe for huge runs. It’s like our fanbase is terrified of them.
 

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they played man out there on the edge. they had 10 boxed up at LOS area, to stop the run up the middle and contain the edge..... 10 in the box, doesn't necessarily mean 10 in the middle......
Look at Zekes YPC on stacked boxes?

Thats showing 4.5 yards/carry

That night zeke was averaging 7.9 yards/carry

Do the math... you hit the run 3 times 4.5 or 7.9 yards/carry and guess what you get a first down...
 

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I may have missed it but I haven't seen anybody say it didn't.

No people are saying what they would have called yet I have seen other teams in the same situations where they throw the quick pass and it is not considered a bad call. I get it many do not like Garrett but when people question every single thing as some how making a point get to be a bit much. He did not have them make a down field throw he had the QB throw a high percentage quick pass to the outside given the defensive formation Philly was showing with the sole purpose of stopping Zeke.
 

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If Dallas ran it 3 times with Elliott many of the same people would be saying Garrett was playing conservative, playing and not to lose, has not guts and has no creativity.
 

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Scared me on all three downs. Why not bring the fullback in and just feed Zeke 3 straight plays.
Because we spent first round draft pick after first round draft pick building a dominant running game only to let the defense dictate when we should use it based upon their formation.
 

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Look at Zekes YPC on stacked boxes?

Thats showing 4.5 yards/carry

That night zeke was averaging 7.9 yards/carry

Do the math... you hit the run 3 times 4.5 or 7.9 yards/carry and guess what you get a first down...

I'm not sayin running Zeke every down wasn't the best way to go, but they did run him on 1st down and lost a yard. In any case, 4.5 or 7.9 doesn't come from getting 4.5 or 7.9 every run. It could be from three 1-2 yard runs and one long run. The most important thing was to either run the clock or force Philly to use it's timeouts.
 

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If Dallas ran it 3 times with Elliott many of the same people would be saying Garrett was playing conservative, playing and not to lose, has not guts and has no creativity.
Some would. I would be saying, why the hell cant our offensive line and generational back get 10 yards when needed?
 

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They ran Zeke on 1st down and lost a yard, and in any case, 4.5 or 7.9 doesn't come from getting 4.5 or 7.9 every run. It could be from three 1-2 yard runs and one long run. The most important thing was to either run the clock or force Philly to use it's timeouts.
Maybe the next carry he gains 15?
 
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