Not running Zeke in final possession

[rpntex]

Good call. I've been claiming for 2 years Zeke doesn't run against stacked boxes as often as people make it seem like. I've been unsuccessful in that attempt. So, I lazily just parroted the same thing most people do in this thread...Zeke running against stacked boxes. Nice call out.

No biggie… It wasn’t my observations, after all. Broaddus was talking about it on one of the cowboy podcast Monday. The upside of all this is the impact that Cooper is having on the rest of the offense… Even when he’s not on the receiving end of the play.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

He lost 1 yard, not 3. We lost 4 yards on the play that the coaching staff is being defended for.

ok...he lost one yard...it still dismisses the fact that the statisticians on the board claim he was gaining 8 yards per carry, so keep running him...he wasn't going to gain 1 yard in that formation both our offense and their defense in that situation in the game.....

 

[OmerV]

He lost 1 yard, not 3. We lost 4 yards on the play that the coaching staff is being defended for.

In the end the first goal had to be forcing the Eagles to use their timeouts to stop the clock. Obviously you would also like to get a first down, but in the event you don't you want to be sure the Eagles have the bare minimum opportunity to come back and score.

 

[Aviano90]

In the end the first goal had to be forcing the Eagles to use their timeouts to stop the clock. Obviously you would also like to get a first down, but in the event you don't you want to be sure the Eagles have the bare minimum opportunity to come back and score.

I agree and the best way to have accomplished that was to not throw at all. Seemed like the team had a tweener approach.

 

[TheHerd]

they played man out there on the edge. they had 10 boxed up at LOS area, to stop the run up the middle and contain the edge..... 10 in the box, doesn't necessarily mean 10 in the middle......

and those stats are when there is threat of a run or pass. its still not 10 lined up at the LOS, around the OL, focused on one player and one player only and worried about one play and one play only..

come on dude.... Zeke did run against that very defensive line up on the first down...result was 3 yard loss.

Zeke lost 3 because the play was run outside. If you look at the play unfold, he probably could have gotten some yards had a taken it all the way to the edge, but he knew not to do that and possibly get pushed out of bounds. Running wide when you're trying to kill the clock often has bad endings. The penalty against Detroit, running out of bounds, forcing the run to stay in bounds.

If Red is going to be conservative there, just plow Zeke behind Martin 3 times and punt if he doesn't break one. If they wanted to take a chance, run play action and throw a pass (risking an incompletion of course - thus calling it taking a chance). I'd be ok with either of those options. The three plays they ran really didbn't make a lot of sense to me. But they did get Philly to use all their timeouts, which apparently was the plan. But again, if that's your only goal, just run Zeke ahead three times.

 

[Aviano90]

ok...he lost one yard...it still dismisses the fact that the statisticians on the board claim he was gaining 8 yards per carry, so keep running him...he wasn't going to gain 1 yard in that formation both our offense and their defense in that situation in the game.....

We weren’t gaining anything on that crap pass play that was called either. Philly was all over that like stink on stunk.

 

[visionary]

how do you not run zeke on that final possession!? Throw a screen to Beasley !?

Love the win ! But seriously it’s time to fire Linehan.

The HC is an idiot but the OC should be the pasty?

Got it

 

[OmerV]

I agree and the best way to have accomplished that was to not throw at all. Seemed like the team had a tweener approach.

A tweener approach is a good way to put it. The pass concerned me too. Obviously a high percentage pass, but the consequences could have been pretty bad if something went wrong and it fell incomplete. I guess they felt it might help get a first down. Obviously they were wrong.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Zeke lost 3 because the play was run outside. If you look at the play unfold, he probably could have gotten some yards had a taken it all the way to the edge, but he knew not to do that and possibly get pushed out of bounds. Running wide when you're trying to kill the clock often has bad endings. The penalty against Detroit, running out of bounds, forcing the run to stay in bounds.

If Red is going to be conservative there, just plow Zeke behind Martin 3 times and punt if he doesn't break one. If they wanted to take a chance, run play action and throw a pass (risking an incompletion of course - thus calling it taking a chance). I'd be ok with either of those options. The three plays they ran really didbn't make a lot of sense to me. But they did get Philly to use all their timeouts, which apparently was the plan. But again, if that's your only goal, just run Zeke ahead three times.

that was the main goal, making sure you force philly to use all their timeouts and leave little time as possible.....but getting a first down would have been a dagger. running behind martin in that formation would have resulted nothing. so the strategy to make sure they burn their timeouts and punt was the main strategy...secondary was to get a first down without risking the clock stopping. so a down field pass would have been dangerous if for any reason going incomplete...the only issue I had with the play call was personnel. I would have rather seen cooper instead of Beasley, so perhaps he could break a tackle, where it would be difficult for Beasley to do the same....but both are pretty sure handed.

 

[buybuydandavis]

no they aren't the worst...you are clueless...that's hwat happens when you use a spreadsheet to calculate what play to run next..... suggestion, buy a couple of football books, read up and educate yourself....

done

Indeed. I am done with you. Goodbye.

*plonk*

 

[buybuydandavis]

We weren’t gaining anything on that crap pass play that was called either. Philly was all over that like stink on stunk.

They were going to be crowding the LOS regardless, the worst time for a WR screen. A dangerous time for one. We've had one of those picked off. End of the game and you need a turnover, the defense should totally jump that play.

If you want a safe pass you go for an isolation play on one side where Dak can ponder the coverage and throw when he is confident in the safety of the pass. Quick bang bang plays to bunched players are about the last thing you should try when you want to be safe.

 

[buybuydandavis]

The HC is an idiot but the OC should be the pasty?

Got it

Their idiocy is not mutually exclusive. Presumably it's Linehan who was calling the plays.

 

[Ebnorice]

The HC is an idiot but the OC should be the pasty?

Got it

I don’t like Garrett either. But Linehan is the play caller so therefore he made the terrible decision.

 

[visionary]

I don’t like Garrett either. But Linehan is the play caller so therefore he made the terrible decision.

In the final possession in a close game the OC better do what the HC tells him otherwise the HC is a total moron


(Oh wait, I forgot we're talking about Garrett)

 

[Ebnorice]

In the final possession in a close game the OC better do what the HC tells him otherwise the HC is a total moron


(Oh wait, I forgot we're talking about Garrett)

Whatever you say big guy.