Dak’s stats during our three game win streak

[jterrell]

Dak is absolutely in a system that pads his completion percentage. The same system does hurt his raw passing totals as well.

Completion percentage is not accuracy. It just means the receiver caught the ball. If a QB underthrows a wide open receiver who has to come back for the ball and gets tackled, no one would consider that an accurate pass. Dak struggles to hit the receiver in the spot to maximize YAC, you see it all the time.

Completion percentage also doesn't really mean the same thing it used to mean. To give you an example, when Romo retired (just two years ago) his 65.2% completion percentage was 6th all-time in the history of the NFL. This year Dak is completing the same 65.2% of his passes... and he's 19th in the league. Derek Carr and Eli Manning, who are not considered to be having good seasons, are completing 70% and 69% respectively. Cam freakin' Newton, a career 59% passer, is completing 69% this year. There's nothing special about Dak in the accuracy department this year.

Stop lying. lol.
You think you know things but you are completely ignorant.
Good grief buy a fact anywhere and employ it.

Dak completes a high percentage of his passes with a very low amount of check downs. That's a real fact not just my opinion. Dak has a bottom 5% of his passes under 5 yards.
His performance related to expectation in passing completion percentage is 13th in the league.
He is a plus player there.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#completionPercentageAboveExpectation

And exactly two NFL QBs have more attempts than him with fewer INTs... Aaron Rodgers and Drew Bees.
And in fact they are the only 2 full-time NFL starters with less INTs.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#interceptions

 

[ThreeandOut]

Re
Dak actually throws more intermediate stuff than anyone.
It by design that they play run to intermediate passing routes.
Its really just simple math.
3-4 yards gain on 1st, pass for 5-8 yards on 2nd and then you choose 3rd down play based upon distance needed.
Add in a lot of reluctance to turn the ball over and you get this offense.
It's seldom pretty but it is 28-15 which means it is effective.

The early 90's DAL offense was boring and plain too. No one cared because they won championships.

It's going to be interesting to see whether this style of offense can compete with the new aged, high powered Rams, Saints, and Chiefs style offenses.

 

[jterrell]

It's going to be interesting to see whether this style of offense can compete with the new aged, high powered Rams, Saints, and Chiefs style offenses.

Yup.
No doubt I'd favor a new style offense but there are advantages with this 1990s crap too.
It is good for eating lock and shortening games.
The less snaps and more recovery time between series helps the defense stay fresh.
Rams and others have some defensive talent but they do get super winded and give up points galore at times late.

At some point if it takes you 2 mins to score 7 then I use 8 but score 7, the advantage will shift to the plodding team. DL only have so many quality pass rush plays in them per game.

 

[Philmonroe]

I didn't take "you people" any other way than you throwing me in as a Dak "fan boy."

I can tell you that I am not, but I think the majority of the Dak hate often coincides with how fervently some fans worshipped Romo, whether you want to acknowledge the correlation or not.

The most vocal Dak critics are usually the ones that were/are most effusive in their praise of Romo.

I can't say there isn't any truth to what you're saying about Romo but just like you I'm saying that isn't me. My post are about Dak himself and if we had a search function you could see that. I guess same way you don't see yourself as a Dak fan boy I don't see myself as someone that can't get over Romo esp when I've never compared them. I think that's fair on how we both see ourselves.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Stop lying. lol.
You think you know things but you are completely ignorant.
Good grief buy a fact anywhere and employ it.

Dak completes a high percentage of his passes with a very low amount of check downs. That's a real fact not just my opinion. Dak has a bottom 5% of his passes under 5 yards.
His performance related to expectation in passing completion percentage is 13th in the league.
He is a plus player there.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#completionPercentageAboveExpectation

And exactly two NFL QBs have more attempts than him with fewer INTs... Aaron Rodgers and Drew Bees.
And in fact they are the only 2 full-time NFL starters with less INTs.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#interceptions

Nothing in these "stats" disproves anything I said. Dak is a dink and dunk quarterback. You may as well have just posted PFF... this is just data manipulated to say a certain thing. Not that you have a clue what that is.

 

[Philmonroe]

Every single report mentioned how improved his accuracy was in his final year, calling attn to his improvement from 60% to 66% completion.

The stat is used specifically to measure accuracy.

Some QBs can pad these stats depending on their system. Dak is not in one of those systems now.

Every single report also mentioned how he improved by doing a ton of closer passes similar to what he does most of the time here. That stat is bogus if you think Dak is accurate period. Throwing a crap ton of checkdowns doesn't equal accuracy but if you want to die on that hill so be it.

 

[ThreeandOut]

Yup.
No doubt I'd favor a new style offense but there are advantages with this 1990s crap too.
It is good for eating lock and shortening games.
The less snaps and more recovery time between series helps the defense stay fresh.
Rams and others have some defensive talent but they do get super winded and give up points galore at times late.

At some point if it takes you 2 mins to score 7 then I use 8 but score 7, the advantage will shift to the plodding team. DL only have so many quality pass rush plays in them per game.

I think it's going to be hard until the red zone efficiency improves. When you play at the pace we do, you have to score touchdowns when you have the chance. Part of that is play calling. But the offense is also missing a reliable tight end.

 

[Kaiser]

Dak completes a high percentage of his passes with a very low amount of check downs. That's a real fact not just my opinion. Dak has a bottom 5% of his passes under 5 yards.

Also Dak has faced a ton of pressure and been sacked more than any other QB. To say he has checkdowns implies that he had a lot of time in the pocket and went to his third or fourh read. The reality is his pass protection has been poor and at the point a pocket passer with time would be throwing a checkdown, Dak is already scrambling outside the pocket or running for yardage upfield.

Common sense is in very short supply in some parts of this site.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Also Dak has faced a ton of pressure and been sacked more than any other QB. To say he has checkdowns implies that he had a lot of time in the pocket and went to his third or fourh read. The reality is his pass protection has been poor and at the point a pocket passer with time would be throwing a checkdown, Dak is already scrambling outside the pocket or running for yardage upfield.

Common sense is in very short supply in some parts of this site.

But then he also has one of the highest time to throws in the league, and his coach has repeatedly said he needs to get the ball out faster. Since 2016 Dak slobberers have been trying to Jedi mind trick me into believing that Dak is actually one of the best deep passers in the league, and then every week I turn on my TV and I’m pleading for Dak to throw the ball beyond the sticks on third down. It’s Bizarro Dak world.

 

[speedkilz88]

 

[jobberone]

True.

I think having Cooper here will help improve this area simply because he seems to be better at getting open faster/quicker than most of the other WR's.

His ability to stop, start and separate are amazing. I have gotten softer on his cost. Dak needs work of his mechanics. Hope you and yours are having a great holiday. Be safe.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

His ability to stop, start and separate are amazing. I have gotten softer on his cost. Dak needs work of his mechanics. Hope you and yours are having a great holiday. Be safe.

You too job!

 

[cityochamps]

It's going to be interesting to see whether this style of offense can compete with the new aged, high powered Rams, Saints, and Chiefs style offenses.

I think it's going to be hard until the red zone efficiency improves. When you play at the pace we do, you have to score touchdowns when you have the chance. Part of that is play calling. But the offense is also missing a reliable tight end.

Good points, I think allot of us competing with those high powered offenses depends on our D playing at a aggressive high level like they have been, the only way to compete with teams like the saints is to keep them off the field with long drives and then get their offense off the filed as quickly as possible with a bend don't break Defense.

 

[Dodger12]

Why are we blaming the WR's? When you don't throw to the middle of the field or just check down, your YAC won't be all that great so it's not surprising. The throw to Cooper in the middle of the field was a good throw that Dak doesn't normally attempt. It's not surprising when that results in more YAC.

 

[Brax]

767 yards
3 passing TDs
3 rushing TDs
0 INTs
11 YPC
70.8% completions
100.1 passer rating

Pretty good for the “worst starting QB in the league”

Still isn't accurate, still needs a big time running game to compete, You are wrong "Dak is a not the worse starting QB" he is around the 20th in other words a average lower level starting QB. Please note that Zeke's production is driving the team. The proof on Dak will be after the next 3 games. Dak can not carry this team that's not negativity it's just the way it is.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Still isn't accurate, still needs a big time running game to compete, You are wrong "Dak is a not the worse starting QB" he is around the 20th in other words a average lower level starting QB. Please note that Zeke's production is driving the team. The proof on Dak will be after the next 3 games. Dak can not carry this team that's not negativity it's just the way it is.

Why will the proof on Dak be in the next three games, and not in the last three games?

 

[Brax]

Why will the proof on Dak be in the next three games, and not in the last three games?

bigger sample size, Believe teams will start to sell out to stop run and make Dak beat them, Brees against Dak will also tell a lot as that should be high scoring, Last 3 games all fall on Zeke running the ball great if no Zeke big games do not believe Dak can do it. Dak really still has problems throwing for accuracy hence lets see after 3 more, do not forget he really played poorly to start the year.

 

[black label]

But then he also has one of the highest time to throws in the league, and his coach has repeatedly said he needs to get the ball out faster. Since 2016 Dak slobberers have been trying to Jedi mind trick me into believing that Dak is actually one of the best deep passers in the league, and then every week I turn on my TV and I’m pleading for Dak to throw the ball beyond the sticks on third down. It’s Bizarro Dak world.

 

[HungryLion]

bigger sample size, Believe teams will start to sell out to stop run and make Dak beat them, Brees against Dak will also tell a lot as that should be high scoring, Last 3 games all fall on Zeke running the ball great if no Zeke big games do not believe Dak can do it. Dak really still has problems throwing for accuracy hence lets see after 3 more, do not forget he really played poorly to start the year.

Everyone knows the offense is centered around Zeke. That being said. Teams have been selllint out to stop the run and make Dak beat them, all season long.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Really Dak's season turnaround started against Jacksonville.

And it those last five games he's gone:

108 completions out of 160 attempts (67.5% completion) for 1,258 yards, 8 TD's, 1 pick and 5 rushing TD's.

And his overall passer rating?

105.16 which (based on just the last 5 games) would place him 7th in the NFL.

His Y/A figure of 7.8 would place him 11th in the NFL.

BTW Dak leads all QBs in rushing TDs.

If he keeps this up throughout the rest of the season then I'm OK with him as the starting QB going into next season.