Zeke Dispels RB Myth Again

QuincyCarterEra

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Zeke is the best running back in the NFL 2nd place aint even close

You think? Man I think there's way too many holes in his game to even be close to best.

Fumbles more than any other RB
Can't create on his own in the redzone
Lost a ton of explosiveness now at a below average amount
Limited as a receiver
 

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You think? Man I think there's way too many holes in his game to even be close to best.

Fumbles more than any other RB
Can't create on his own in the redzone
Lost a ton of explosiveness now at a below average amount
Limited as a receiver
So far, 64 people completely disagree w/ you on this site.

Hope you're doing your stretching exercises so you don't pull something w/ these major reaches you're takin' on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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To those who still claim just any Rb will do, did you watch the enormous effect Zeke had on the game yesterday? Did you notice how he consistently gained yards w/o a hole to run through?

BTW, I am not calling anyone out, I'm simply curious.
Call them out.....they ain't scouts......big mouths......zero evaluators.
 

QuincyCarterEra

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So far, 64 people completely disagree w/ you on this site.

Hope you're doing your stretching exercises so you don't pull something w/ these major reaches you're takin' on!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're telling me Cowboys fans think Zeke is the best? OMG IM SHOCKED!!! Lol. I'm not a blind homer and watch more NFL games than 99% of posters here. Many pundits agree with me and they are much more knowledgable.

None of that was a reach lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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You think? Man I think there's way too many holes in his game to even be close to best.

Fumbles more than any other RB
Can't create on his own in the redzone
Lost a ton of explosiveness now at a below average amount
Limited as a receiver

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Barkley is a good RB... But he doesn't get those tough yards that Zeke gets. That is why I will take Zeke all day...

I love when he looks for the slightest seam... and lunges forward for 4 yards... He will chip away, taking what they will give him, then break some good ones.

Zeke is a freak of nature! Very hard to stop, when he gets in a groove.
 

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You're telling me Cowboys fans think Zeke is the best? OMG IM SHOCKED!!! Lol. I'm not a blind homer and watch more NFL games than 99% of posters here. Many pundits agree with me and they are much more knowledgable.

None of that was a reach lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ah, parameters change. You must've been losing the argument badly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Ah, parameters change. You must've been losing the argument badly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No parameters changed either. Just something else you made up

Your vagueness highlights your desperation for grasping straws

First it was stretches without pointing out the stretch
Then it's changing parameters which made no ******* sense regarding the post you quoted lmao, and obviously not clarifying what those changes would be again

Sad. Just let this one go Ksk, youre already dead
 

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No parameters changed either. Just something else you made up

Your vagueness highlights your desperation for grasping straws

First it was stretches without pointing out the stretch
Then it's changing parameters which made no ******* sense regarding the post you quoted lmao, and obviously not clarifying what those changes would be again

Sad. Just let this one go Ksk, youre already dead
Declaring yourself the winner while losing so badly is really really pathetic dude.

This thread was about EZ disproving the theory that the RB doesn't matter. You changed it to best RB in the NFL. That is changing the parameters. Are you really this dense dude?

You're losing, and losing badly. Give it up.
 

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You're telling me Cowboys fans think Zeke is the best? OMG IM SHOCKED!!! Lol. I'm not a blind homer and watch more NFL games than 99% of posters here. Many pundits agree with me and they are much more knowledgable.

None of that was a reach lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raiders need fans honest they do And I think they would like you really I do
 

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Which of that do you disagree with?

I'm willing to listen to reason
For starters, how do you create in the red zone? What does that even mean? Where is your evidence for such a claim? Post a video of Gurley or Barkley doing it. I doubt you can. Once we’re clear on that I’ll go to the next thing you said
 

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You think? Man I think there's way too many holes in his game to even be close to best.

Fumbles more than any other RB
Can't create on his own in the redzone
Lost a ton of explosiveness now at a below average amount
Limited as a receiver
What is the "average amount" of explosiveness? Where is the data for this claim that shows Zeke now has "below average amount" of explosiveness?

Limited receiver? 77 catches, good for 22nd in the league among ALL receivers and top receiver on the team.

Apparently you need to watch more football, because watching more than 99% of the posters here isn't quite enough.
 

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What is the "average amount" of explosiveness? Where is the data for this claim that shows Zeke now has "below average amount" of explosiveness?

Limited receiver? 77 catches, good for 22nd in the league among ALL receivers and top receiver on the team.

Apparently you need to watch more football, because watching more than 99% of the posters here isn't quite enough.

Zeke has the most carries in the league by a country mile, correct?

Guess who has just the 30th longest rush attempt amongst players? Zeke. His lack of explosiveness was highlighted this past saturday when he got to the corner on the right side and was easily chased down by three players, a DL, LB, and CB.

Dump offs dont show your receiving acumen. There's no route running involved at all in dump offs. He's not out there like Chris Thompson, Cohen, and Kamara running precise routes he's just catching dump offs.

Nope I'm good. Ive watched more than you and thats why I know more. I'm sorry if saying a single cowboy player isnt the best offends you.
 

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For starters, how do you create in the red zone? What does that even mean? Where is your evidence for such a claim? Post a video of Gurley or Barkley doing it. I doubt you can. Once we’re clear on that I’ll go to the next thing you said

You dont think RBs can create in red zone? You make opposing players miss tackles or break tackles.

It's those dirty yards fans always claim Zeke gets, yet he doesn't get them in the red zone.


Here's an example of Kamara creating in red zone. There you go was able to do it. Now do it for Zeke. I doubt you can. Especially not in the last half of the season.

Glad we are clear.
 
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QuincyCarterEra

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Declaring yourself the winner while losing so badly is really really pathetic dude.

This thread was about EZ disproving the theory that the RB doesn't matter. You changed it to best RB in the NFL. That is changing the parameters. Are you really this dense dude?

You're losing, and losing badly. Give it up.

The post you replied to of mine was me replying to go who was sayin Zeke is by fsr the best RB!!!!!!!!

Wow read a little bit Ksk. So no, no parameters were changed, if only you had follower th conversation correctly.

Are you so dense you cant follow a conversation?
Youve already lost, give up.
 

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Zeke has the most carries in the league by a country mile, correct?

Guess who has just the 30th longest rush attempt amongst players? Zeke. His lack of explosiveness was highlighted this past saturday when he got to the corner on the right side and was easily chased down by three players, a DL, LB, and CB.

Dump offs dont show your receiving acumen. There's no route running involved at all in dump offs. He's not out there like Chris Thompson, Cohen, and Kamara running precise routes he's just catching dump offs.

Nope I'm good. Ive watched more than you and thats why I know more. I'm sorry if saying a single cowboy player isnt the best offends you.
I never said he was "the best" but you here tearing him down is stupid. You've provided no data to back up your claim. Having one of the worst passing games in the NFL tends to limit long runs due to stacked boxes. Gurley for example faces a stacked box on 8% of his attempts. Elliott on 25%.

Kamara and the others you mentioned catch tons of dump off passes! Please show your work that proves any of what you say is true about them running more precise routes than Zeke.
 

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I never said he was "the best" but you here tearing him down is stupid. You've provided no data to back up your claim. Having one of the worst passing games in the NFL tends to limit long runs due to stacked boxes. Gurley for example faces a stacked box on 8% of his attempts. Elliott on 25%.

Kamara and the others you mentioned catch tons of dump off passes! Please show your work that proves any of what you say is true about them running more precise routes than Zeke.

Then why reply to my post that was ddiscussing him being the best? I'm not tearing him down, I just wanted to have a civil conversation as to why I don't think he's the best, despute him still being a damn good player.

I just provided data in the post you quoted. I've provided a bunch of data through the entirety of the thread including yards after contact #'s and red zone rushing effeciency.

We dont have one of the worst passing games in the NFL, and Zeke faces 8+ men in the box a league average amount, 24.67% of carries. I've still not gotten a single lick of data back from anyone.
If you want to claim that the offensive scheme is holding Zeke's effeciency #'s back, I would absolutely agree with you

You show your work. I've shown mine enough.

Has Zeke shown this?


Now yall show yalls work. I'm sick of doing all the heavy lifting.
 

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You think? Man I think there's way too many holes in his game to even be close to best.

LOL
You’ve provided some good laughs in this thread but this post tops them all.

Zeke “isn’t even close to being the best RB in the league”, lol.

He’s pretty much universally considered to be a top 3 RB, with many considering him #1. To suggest that he’s not even close to being the best would imply that there’s a number of RB’s better than him, hahaha.
 
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