Was it a mistake by JG to go for the 58 yd fg try?

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You must be slow. I advocated replacing him with Kai Forbath the week before Forbath signed with the Jaguars. He's a more proven NFL kicker. He's not a 78% CFL kicker.
proven what? he was let go by Commanders...he wasn't that good not had the leg for long kicks.... he is just a grass is greener on the otherside......I don't like that option. it makes us worse.
 

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proven what? he was let go by Commanders...he wasn't that good not had the leg for long kicks.... he is just a grass is greener on the otherside......I don't like that option. it makes us worse.

Proven to be a more accurate NFL kicker than our CFL guy.

I don't care what you like.
 

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It was a coin toss. He went with his decision and lived with it. I'm okay with it. He knew our defense could hold them to a FG with a miss and I think that was his thinking. Ended up being just fine.
A coin toss? A 58 yard FG? No, it was not.
 

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Proven to be a more accurate NFL kicker than our CFL guy.

I don't care what you like.
he was 80% kicker this year. 84% last year and he was cut..... similar percentage to Maher.

and I feel the same...I don't care about your choice....you just made the team worse....
 

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good point, and that would be aggressive and probably a surprise to seattle and us fans.
a fake punt, you snap the ball 15 yards back....which would put the ball at our 44. assuming he gets 6-10 yards then about same spot. if they do a short snap to the up back and he gets caught in the back field. that's about the 40-45 yards line...so its about the same..... probability of a fake punt working on a 4th and 10....really really really really really really small. this would have been a more stupid call
 

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I think its a judgement call.... although jones is good at that, we all complained about Garrett not being aggressive enough...now he is being aggressive and we all complain that he was too aggressive and not the right aggressive....so it goes back to my original comment. damned if you do. damned if you don't.

and I also don't tend to over analyze one single play call in lieu of an entire game....no Coach including the GOAT Bilicheck is perfect in game management on every call they make. you have to take into account the entirety of the game. I can do this exact over analysis for Bilicheck and call him stupid.

I don't complain about him not being passive or aggressive. I look at the situation at hand and given that situation I would have punted it. I don't think him sending out the kicker to try a kick of 58 makes Garrett a bad coach only stating I would have punted it, had it been my call. As I pointed out you can look at overall odds and the odds of the individual player and Maher was 6 for 6 on kicks of 50 plus so it was not out of the question he could make it which is why I stated I do not think it was stupid. I just felt at that point and time it would have been a better option of punting. Just a difference of opinion
 

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I don't complain about him not being passive or aggressive. I look at the situation at hand and given that situation I would have punted it. I don't think him sending out the kicker to try a kick of 58 makes Garrett a bad coach only stating I would have punted it, had it been my call. As I pointed out you can look at overall odds and the odds of the individual player and Maher was 6 for 6 on kicks of 50 plus so it was not out of the question he could make it which is why I stated I do not think it was stupid. I just felt at that point and time it would have been a better option of punting. Just a difference of opinion
judgement call. I don't disagree with your thought process. I don't think it was stupid or mistake.
 

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judgement call. I don't disagree with your thought process. I don't think it was stupid or mistake.

I agree it is a judgement call. If I have a kicker who has shown he can't hit the long kick then yes it would be stupid but Maher has shown 6 out of 6 times leading up to that kick that he can drill it. I'm not the coach but had it been my call I would have punted it.
 

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Seemed pretty risky to me. I would have punted. I guess it all depends on what you think the chances of him making the kick are versus the chances Seattle scores on the short field. I would have given him at best 25% to make with Seattle at maybe 30% to score on short field. I suppose though 3 points for us 25% of the time versus 3 points for them 22.5% of the time seems logical.
 

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I think it was, and it could have cost the cowboys the game if Seattle had not lost their kicker.

Here is the situation:
Dallas 3 Seattle 3 2nd qtr 3.12 remaining Ball is at Seattle 40.

Now to me this is a battle of defense and field position, and the chances of making this long
of a kick is 50 / 50.
Miss the kick and you give Seattle great position at the Seattle 48.
This is not smart to me, I think you punt and try to down ball inside the 10.

By missing Seattle now got the upper hand in field position, and they drove a short distance for a FG.
then after kicking off we got the ball at our own 25.

Now had we punted and held Seattle to 3 and out we would have had upper hand still in field position.

If we had made the FG it is only 3 points, early in the game, so not really worth losing in field position.

Now 2 things I read later that the kick by maher was partially blocked or deflected, and on re-watch hard to
tell but it might have been.

2nd thing is when a team misses a FG the ball is evidently spotted at the point the ball is kicked from,
not the LOS! I didn't know this, and was wondering why LOS was the 40 but Seattle started at the 48.


But this is the type of decision making by JG that just isnt good. He should know better by now.
In this type game and that situation it is smarter to punt, and make Seattle drive long way for any points
they get, dont give them a short field.

I will add that if I were HC in playoffs, I would not put maher out there unless it was 48 yds or closer, except if time is about up in half or the game.
punt and play field position.
.. I think that goes for any kicker in the league. 48+ and your asking for trouble. 40 under is the safety net. I think JG was playing to win the game and get ahead. Thanks for that tidbit on spotting the ball. I also thought LOS was where the ball was spotted. That's basically a 10 yd difference.
 

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Opting for a 58 yd FG try does not equate to being aggressive.
 

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I would have punted. giving hawks that field position was a bad idea. but due to the game's final score, it's a forgiveable mistake.
 

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Nah because Carroll tried to one up JG and trot out Seabass for a 58 yard and he pulled an azs muscle, which, kinda cost them the game.
 

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.. I think that goes for any kicker in the league. 48+ and your asking for trouble. 40 under is the safety net. I think JG was playing to win the game and get ahead. Thanks for that tidbit on spotting the ball. I also thought LOS was where the ball was spotted. That's basically a 10 yd difference.
yeah I didnt know either, it is a odd rule to place ball where it is kicked from, instead of LOS.
it seems they want to discourage fg attempts ?
 

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yeah I didnt know either, it is a odd rule to place ball where it is kicked from, instead of LOS.
it seems they want to discourage fg attempts ?
......lol... or make it more risky. I mean, like really roll the dice..
 
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