Don't expect a discount from Dak Prescott

[starcity214]

I wonder why they want mayfield to succeed but not Dak or watson????????????

I want Mahomes to succeed does that count?
Don't make this out to be what it isn't..

 

[Swagger]

I'm not a fan of Prescott in any way but I don't blame him at all for his position regarding this contract.

His point about Tom Brady's wife being the bread winner is true.

What would you do if you were in a similar position to him?

Would you accept £15 million a year or push for £25 million a year?

I think he's worth circa £20-£22 million in the current market but it's understandable that he will push for £25 million.

It would be disappointing if he's pushing for £30 million a year - we shall see.

 

[baltcowboy]

hes not getting more. BUT maybe a shorter deal and a front loaded contract? Minny set the QB market falsely. Its hurts the teams really. It straps the teams bigtime. Dak isn't getting more than 21-22 mil per. NO WAY AINT HAPPENING.

His agent is going to take less then Cousins, Stafford, Alex Smith and Jimmy G? Dak should fire his agent. He hired this guy for a reason. Give me your short term deal numbers.

 

[baltcowboy]

A QB holding out while under contract would be novel as I do not recall that ever happening. Even one tagged would be pushing it because as you say that is the most important position and the entire offense spins from that.

Prescott holding out with a brand new OC and lame duck HC would be new territory for us fans and we've seen a lot with this team but that would top them all. And wouldn't this Forum be a good time?

I think a deal will get done. I just believe he hired this agent for a reason. That means everything is on the table. Dak is in a unique situation. He is making peanuts and has been the best bargain in the NFL since he came in the league. He has lots of power in this situation.

 

[baltcowboy]

I hope you are right because if they're too far apart, this might get shelved and he plays out his last year of this contract. I have little idea what he wants or the value he places on himself with regard to other QB's.

This being the agent for Donald really isn't relevant as he's regarded as one of the top two D players in the game. The same cannot be said of Prescott.

Also I believe Dak is the priority. I believe they will sign him and Tank while the others will be on the back burner.

 

[Hadenough]

You think giving away Zeke, Tank and two first round picks is a solid plan to build a championship caliber team?

I suppose we fundamentally disagree on that front then....

I believe in todays NFL that having the best pure passing QB possible is the most important part of a team. The better the QB the less you need a bunch of stars around him.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I believe in todays NFL that having the best pure passing QB possible is the most important part of a team. The better the QB the less you need a bunch of stars around him.

Agreed. What you are looking for in a franchise QB is someone who can elevate those around him. Romo made guys like Miles Austin and Laurent Robinson into formidable players. I'm not sure Dak fits into that category. I'm nervous giving him a big contract.

 

[ItzKelz]

I believe in todays NFL that having the best pure passing QB possible is the most important part of a team. The better the QB the less you need a bunch of stars around him.

I do not think that is true. I think the more experience a QB is the less you have to have a bunch of stars around him. Coff and Wince for example....both young QBs got much better with more talent being put around him. Mohomes arguably had the most talent in the NFL. Goff is not even allowed to change plays at the line because McVay is telling him what to change the plays to 15 seconds before the snap through the mike in his help.

Dak is no different. He has a star on his helmet so he gets more attention. All of these young QBs will get paid 25 million or more based on what the market is right now for the QB.

 

[HungryLion]

Look at the stats. Kirk was more productive and efficient. He is better than Dak. How's that logic for ya?

Less YPA and more INT’s is more efficient?

I also find it telling that you completely ignored the argument about Kirk being a choker and playing poorly in crunch time, compared to Dak.

I wonder why you ignored it......

 

[HungryLion]

I believe in todays NFL that having the best pure passing QB possible is the most important part of a team. The better the QB the less you need a bunch of stars around him.

Yet the best pure passers don’t win anything when the team around them isn’t good enough.....

 

[Hadenough]

I do not think that is true. I think the more experience a QB is the less you have to have a bunch of stars around him. Coff and Wince for example....both young QBs got much better with more talent being put around him. Mohomes arguably had the most talent in the NFL. Goff is not even allowed to change plays at the line because McVay is telling him what to change the plays to 15 seconds before the snap through the mike in his help.

Dak is no different. He has a star on his helmet so he gets more attention. All of these young QBs will get paid 25 million or more based on what the market is right now for the QB.

Your right! Experience does make a difference. I hear what your saying about Goff and Wentz but those two have shown the ability to make throws that Dak cant make.

 

[Hadenough]

Yet the best pure passers don’t win anything when the team around them isn’t good enough.....

That is true but they can also elevate decent players into very good players. They also dont require the best oline because they can adjust and get rid of the ball quicker. Its very difficult for any team to win a SB but if you have an elite QB you have an edge over your opponent. It takes a great QB to beat a great QB.

 

[Swagger]

Regarding recent rookie QBs...

In reality Weintz would have been league MVP in 2017 had he not got injured late on and he was a big reason why the Eagles had the #1 seed heading into the play offs before winning the Superbowl.

Goff just reached the Superbowl.

Wilson won and lost a Superbowl.

Kaepernick reached the Superbowl.

It is the way forward really.

Our window is closing before we will have to let one or two key pieces walk assuming we sign Prescott on a long term contract.

 

[HungryLion]

That is true but they can also elevate decent players into very good players. They also dont require the best oline because they can adjust and get rid of the ball quicker. Its very difficult for any team to win a SB but if you have an elite QB you have an edge over your opponent. It takes a great QB to beat a great QB.

It doesn’t take a great QB to beat a great QB though.

It takes a great team.

The eagles beat Tom Brady last season in the Super Bowl. Nick Foles isn’t a great QB. He played great in the game, sure. But he isn’t a great QB. He was on a great team.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Less YPA and more INT’s is more efficient?

I also find it telling that you completely ignored the argument about Kirk being a choker and playing poorly in crunch time, compared to Dak.

I wonder why you ignored it......

Lol

If you look at the overall body of work and not just cherry pick the two minor things Dak had..yes. He was absolutely more productive and efficient.

As far as Kirk "choking"..that's a subjective opinion that I'm sure you aren't biased about at all..based on your user name here. Lol

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Less YPA and more INT’s is more efficient?

I also find it telling that you completely ignored the argument about Kirk being a choker and playing poorly in crunch time, compared to Dak.

I wonder why you ignored it......

Kirk had a better TD to INT ratio and threw for 400 more yards and had a better passer rating..before you come back and say I'm not using any stats or logic again. Lol

 

[Stash]

I think a deal will get done. I just believe he hired this agent for a reason. That means everything is on the table. Dak is in a unique situation. He is making peanuts and has been the best bargain in the NFL since he came in the league. He has lots of power in this situation.

Does he?

 

[cowboyblue22]

dak is going to get at least 30 million a year in dallas if stays there and tank will get close to 20 so there is that with the salary cap some of the players they have now like smith and maybe bryon jones will walk you cant sign them all with free agency in this league any more in three year from now lots of the good players will be gone via free agency

 

[ItzKelz]

Your right! Experience does make a difference. I hear what your saying about Goff and Wentz but those two have shown the ability to make throws that Dak cant make.

Have they? I see Dak making the same throws as the both of them. The only difference is Wince has a stronger arm (cant stay Healthy)....Coff doesn't do as good as Dak under pressure but with no pressure very accurate. I think Dak has been more accurate since they have all come into the NFL. But as far as ability to make all throws to all parts of the field they are all capable.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I didn't quite say Bum. I said average. And I was just pointing out not everyone views Dak the same way on here, so people have different opinions on what it is to overpay or not.

Gotta extend Dak THIS offseason. These QB contracts are getting out of control. If we have ANY hope of signing him for less than 30 million per year then it HAS to be THIS offseason. We wait another year and we will be paying 35 million per season possibly. With Frederick back and these receivers another offseason and Linehan and Garrett kicked to the curb, the offense will start humming again.