Will Jerry ever bring in a proven HC again?

Nightman

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Where is the BS?

Jerry seized complete control of football operations after Jimmy left. They won a SB in 1995 with the team Jerry and Jimmy built.

Since then, when Jerry has had sole control of trades, FA, draft, personnel, coaching, etc. they have 6 playoffs wins in 23 years.

In what freaking world is that a successful run? We aren't talking a down 5-6 year period. We are talking about a 23 year run where the Cowboys have performed in the bottom third of the league. LOL.
there you go again with fake qualifiers and artificial timelines..... it all counts .... not just the bad parts
 

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Amazing we still have fans who support Jerry. But it’s why we are stuck in this situation.
 

Sydla

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Jimmy lived off his Miami record and knowing all the best college players when he went Pro

He was given the gift of 3 overall 1st rounders and stash of Draft picks because his owner made the Herschel trade...... Jimmy had a great staff too..... he was not alone

I never said he was alone. Let's not create a strawman argument here. I very clearly said above Jerry AND Jimmy built those SB teams. But when Jerry went it by himself after Jimmy left, the results speak for themselves.
 

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I never said he was alone. Let's not create a strawman argument here. I very clearly said above Jerry AND Jimmy built those SB teams. But when Jerry went it by himself after Jimmy left, the results speak for themselves.
Jerry is anything but a failure

He has 3 rings, HoF, new Stadium, new Practice Campus, 250 yacht and the team is worth 5b for a 160m investment

SJones is too cheap and needs to get some wildcatting from his Daddy.... he can Draft well but he needs to spend some FA money
 

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there you go again with fake qualifiers and artificial timelines..... it all counts .... not just the bad parts

You are obtuse and have your homer glasses on today, that's for sure.

No one is taking credit away from Jerry for the early 90s teams.

But what has the franchise done since Jerry took complete control of the front office and started making all the personnel and coaching (including assistants) decisions? Again we aren't talking about a 5 year run here, it's been a 23 year run. How in the world can you sit there and argue it's been a good run?
 

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Jerry is anything but a failure

He has 3 rings, HoF, new Stadium, new Practice Campus, 250 yacht and the team is worth 5b for a 160m investment

SJones is too cheap and needs to get some wildcatting from his Daddy.... he can Draft well but he needs to spend some FA money

jerry the owner isn't a failure.

jerry the GM is a failure. By any rational measure he has not been a successful GM. In reality, if he weren't the owner he'd have been fired as GM a long time ago.
 

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You are obtuse and have your homer glasses on today, that's for sure.

No one is taking credit away from Jerry for the early 90s teams.

But what has the franchise done since Jerry took complete control of the front office and started making all the personnel and coaching (including assistants) decisions? Again we aren't talking about a 5 year run here, it's been a 23 year run. How in the world can you sit there and argue it's been a good run?
What about the last 5

3 Division Titles
50 wins
One second place
 

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You never answered my question

What team would you trade with for the last 30 years....... you too @Sydla

Well considering we won 3 SBs at the beginning of the 30 year run, probably not many - NE for sure, maybe Pittsburgh.

But I'd trade the Cowboys for a ton of teams since Jerry started making all the decisions himself because over that period, there have been a lot of teams that have been more successful on the field than Dallas.
 

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What about the last 5

3 Division Titles
50 wins
One second place

What about it?

It's been an OK run. In comparison to the last 23 years, it looks great but in the overall scope, it's been just adequate from a franchise that considers itself one of the truly elite in the NFL.
 

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Well considering we won 3 SBs at the beginning of the 30 year run, probably not many - NE for sure, maybe Pittsburgh.

But I'd trade the Cowboys for a ton of teams since Jerry started making all the decisions himself because over that period, there have been a lot of teams that have been more successful on the field than Dallas.
Sydla the Hedgehog

just the answer the question as given....not with your arbitrary timelines
 

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Well considering we won 3 SBs at the beginning of the 30 year run, probably not many - NE for sure, maybe Pittsburgh.

But I'd trade the Cowboys for a ton of teams since Jerry started making all the decisions himself because over that period, there have been a lot of teams that have been more successful on the field than Dallas.
Yep

If only Jerry would return to what brought him the early success which is my entire point here.
 
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