What exactly does Garrett do?

CowboyRoy

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1. When Romo went out what did people say about Garrett? "Great coaches win despite losing top players" So yes he's supposed to win WITH THE TALENT HE HAS. And talent is spread pretty evenly throughout the NFL, even with limited talent, 5-11 for 3 years in a row is pretty bad. I didn't say I just winning games and division titles and playoff games is what I judge Garrett by, it's what coaches are judged by by most.

2. And Garrett is "horrid"? Then what was Rich Kotite, 40-56 over 6 years? How about Hue Jackson, 11-44. Gus Bradley, 14-48. Romeo Crennel, 28-55. THOSE guys are "horrid".
Garrett is mediocre, no question, but if he's "horrid", I guess you'd rather have Campo and go 5-11 year after year? I'd rather have a Belichick or a Landry or a Tomlin, even. But compared to some, he's not.

Garrett played in the NFL for a few years and has now 9 years as head coach, nobody in the league that long "has no clue" That's ridiculous, has any NFL ex-player said that about Garrett? Even with giving respect to somebody who played the game, if that was the case surely a few would have said that publicly.

Look I want Garrett gone, too. And I'm not a Garrett fan, and don't think of him as anything but average at best as an NFL head coach, probably below average.

But hyperbole is not needed to express your opinion...

There is NOTHING you could drum up that could EVER convince me that Garrett is a good coach. I have watched the horror show that is Garrett for 12 years as OC and HC.

I would take Campo, Wade, ANY of the other coaches in Dallas over Garrett. His football knowledge, in game management, gameplanning, scheme, risk taking, creativity is as bad as I have EVER seen it in a HC.

He has been here for a decade and NEVER got past the divisional round of the playoffs. And this with plenty of talent and franchise QB's the entire time.
 

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There is NOTHING you could drum up that could EVER convince me that Garrett is a good coach

Try reading my post, or if that's not possible, I'll quote here:

"don't think of him as anything but...probably below average."

Nowhere did I say he's a good coach....
 

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Try reading my post, or if that's not possible, I'll quote here:

"don't think of him as anything but...probably below average."

Nowhere did I say he's a good coach....

Never said you said he was a good coach. Anything you say good about Garrett goes in one ear and out the other. Whether he is good at some little things matters not over his big failures as any kind of football mind. The notion that he was some Princeton genius, offensive guru has been proved dead wrong. He actually faked his way through college and is now doing it in the NFL.

And NO I am not claiming you said he was a great football mind. But you have been sticking up for Garrett now for several posts. No one in their right mind would stick up for Garrett. No devoted Cowboys fan. And below average is another way of saying "he sucks".
 

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Never said you said he was a good coach. Anything you say good about Garrett goes in one ear and out the other. Whether he is good at some little things matters not over his big failures as any kind of football mind. The notion that he was some Princeton genius, offensive guru has been proved dead wrong. He actually faked his way through college and is now doing it in the NFL.

And NO I am not claiming you said he was a great football mind. But you have been sticking up for Garrett now for several posts. No one in their right mind would stick up for Garrett. No devoted Cowboys fan. And below average is another way of saying "he sucks".

I quote your post: "There is NOTHING you could drum up that could EVER convince me that Garrett is a good coach" That means you think I said he was a good coach. If that's not what you meant, fine, but IT IS WHAT YOU SAID.

Below average is not "sucks" The coaches I mentioned like Kotite are coaches that "suck".

I am not, nor have I ever "defended" Garrett.

All I said was that he's not "horrid". THAT'S ALL. "Horrid" is far worse than "below average".

Obviously you can only deal in extremes, no point in trying to discuss anything further with you, because the world, my friend, is not black and white....
 

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I quote your post: "There is NOTHING you could drum up that could EVER convince me that Garrett is a good coach" That means you think I said he was a good coach. If that's not what you meant, fine, but IT IS WHAT YOU SAID.

Below average is not "sucks" The coaches I mentioned like Kotite are coaches that "suck".

I am not, nor have I ever "defended" Garrett.

All I said was that he's not "horrid". THAT'S ALL. "Horrid" is far worse than "below average".

Obviously you can only deal in extremes, no point in trying to discuss anything further with you, because the world, my friend, is not black and white....

being mediocre is worse than being horrid.
 

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Stop it. Garrett is NOT a good HC by any stretch of YOUR imagination. Every other coach was better than Garrett you mentioned. They all knew football better than the hapless Garrett.

Garrett is the Chaz Green of coaches. You remember Chaz Green dont you?
yet as OC under wade he produced 3 top 10 offenses, onetime top 2 in scoring and top 10 otherwise.... but I am sure it was Wade's defense that somehow did it.

has he made mistakes? yes. but this past year he did pretty good managing games and get us from 3-5 to 10-6....not enough. I want more and that's fine, but its very childish and immature the claims you make....I mean God do you remember Chip Kelly, the supposed God of football, he sucked in Philly. he sucked in SF and he is out of NFL.....

the hate is over the top sometimes with garrett haters.....
 

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There is NOTHING you could drum up that could EVER convince me that Garrett is a good coach. I have watched the horror show that is Garrett for 12 years as OC and HC.

I would take Campo, Wade, ANY of the other coaches in Dallas over Garrett. His football knowledge, in game management, gameplanning, scheme, risk taking, creativity is as bad as I have EVER seen it in a HC.

He has been here for a decade and NEVER got past the divisional round of the playoffs. And this with plenty of talent and franchise QB's the entire time.
taking those coaches over garrett, specially clueless, and I mean totally clueless campo...my God he was the worst coach, I mean the worst coach EVER in the cowboys history and bottom 3 worst coaches in NFL history. the guy plain sucked...

you just hate garrett and that hatred has blinded you dude......

and as OC, he produced 3 top 10 offenses in 4 years under wade.... but everybody else gets credit except him...but you credit all the losing and bad things to garrett..... you are trying to live on both sides of the fence...
 

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Garrett works his butt off. You need to more familiarize yourself with the day in the life of an NFL HC. You are only revealing your own ignorance by asking what he does. You don't have to like the man or want him to have the job he has but he does give 100% to this team.

So why don't you educate us all on what EXACTLY Garrett does here since you appear to be such an expert.

At this point, no one can really figure it out. As if Garrett is "the norm" as HC's go. To think THAT would be ignorance.
 

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I quote your post: "There is NOTHING you could drum up that could EVER convince me that Garrett is a good coach" That means you think I said he was a good coach. If that's not what you meant, fine, but IT IS WHAT YOU SAID.

Below average is not "sucks" The coaches I mentioned like Kotite are coaches that "suck".

I am not, nor have I ever "defended" Garrett.

All I said was that he's not "horrid". THAT'S ALL. "Horrid" is far worse than "below average".

Obviously you can only deal in extremes, no point in trying to discuss anything further with you, because the world, my friend, is not black and white....

Garrett sucks and you are sticking up for him by saying he is below average? LOL

Yah, no sense in talking to ME.
 

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yet as OC under wade he produced 3 top 10 offenses, onetime top 2 in scoring and top 10 otherwise.... but I am sure it was Wade's defense that somehow did it.

has he made mistakes? yes. but this past year he did pretty good managing games and get us from 3-5 to 10-6....not enough. I want more and that's fine, but its very childish and immature the claims you make....I mean God do you remember Chip Kelly, the supposed God of football, he sucked in Philly. he sucked in SF and he is out of NFL.....

the hate is over the top sometimes with garrett haters.....

They will never get it until they get their new coach and the team yields the same results, then they'll start the crying all over again.
 

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So why don't you educate us all on what EXACTLY Garrett does here since you appear to be such an expert.

At this point, no one can really figure it out. As if Garrett is "the norm" as HC's go. To think THAT would be ignorance.

He does what every coach that doesn't call plays. It's ignorant to think all he does is stand on the sidelines and claps.
 

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He does what every coach that doesn't call plays. It's ignorant to think all he does is stand on the sidelines and claps.

He used to call plays and doesnt anymore. Because he was horrid at it.

But I give you the floor AGAIN. In all your infinite wisdom, what does Garrett do besides sit there and clap?

He has a play sheet, but never looks at it. He doesnt go around talking to players. I have seen him throw a red flag. What else does he do? Waiting..................................
 

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He used to call plays and doesnt anymore. Because he was horrid at it.

But I give you the floor AGAIN. In all your infinite wisdom, what does Garrett do besides sit there and clap?

He has a play sheet, but never looks at it. He doesnt go around talking to players. I have seen him throw a red flag. What else does he do? Waiting..................................

Watch other coaches and see their level of engagement compared to Garret's - it's embarrassing. Garret is a coach in name only. He's a fraud.
 

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He used to call plays and doesnt anymore. Because he was horrid at it.
What else does he do? Waiting..................................

His constant spitting helps keep the grass watered at AT&T. Oh wait, the grass is fake.
 

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He does what Mike Tomlin does

Unlucky for him, he does not have the ownership that Tomlin has

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